Superbowl halftime - scantily dressed women and very covered up men

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.”

Out of the mouths of babes.

You should talk to your son about respecting women and their choices. Then explain to him that there are men who respect women and don’t feel the need to grope woman just bc they can. Hopefully you can raise him to be better than what he thinks of men now.

Nah. I’m proud that he recognized inappropriate sexual content that wasn’t necessary in a super bowl halftime show. Parenting win for me and the values I’m teaching my family. YMMV.

Yep, agree with you here.

She is raising a Brock Turner so no... no family values.

Curious how you made the leap from recognizing inappropriate sexual content to raising a Brock Turner. Care to elaborate on this mental leap? Can’t wait to hear what you come up with.

Dp but I’ll make the leap since you are trying to play dumb and confused. If you cannot teach your son not to grope women or if he is associating that being groped is determined by what a woman wears that’s a problem. If your son believes men will automatically grope a woman for what she is wearing, then the male figures aren’t doing much to lead by example. Women can wear whatever they want. Performers can wear any costume they want to perform in. Men do not have the right to touch a woman no matter what she is wearing or if she is passed out (ie Brock Turner). How many people want to blame a woman for getting raped bc of what she is wearing. Nope nope nope. Teach your sons better.

So “teach your sons better” will stop women from being groped?

I personally choose to live in the real world, rather than live in this “women can wear whatever they want and not be groped” La La Land a lot of people seem to live in. I, of course, am raising my son to be respectful of women. My assumption is most of us are. I am also teaching my son to be honest, not bully people, not steal, and be a general good person. In La La Land, I would expect perfect behavior from him 100% of the time, because after all, I taught him how to behave properly!

Now, in reality, he’s probably going to screw up and do some of the things I have taught him not to do. I’m hoping it’s none of the big ones - steal or hurt someone physically or whatever - but it will happen. Which is why at 10, even he is aware that men will grope women, even if it is wrong. It’s just the way it is.

For these reasons, I teach my 13 yo daughter to protect herself. She can choose to dress provocatively if she wishes, but that choice may come with consequences. Because some men are pigs -
That’s just the way the world is. It may suck, and it may not be right, but it is reality. This is also why we lock the doors when we leave the house instead of saying “teach people not to steal! Problem solved!” In La La Land, this is in easy fix. In the real world, you take steps to protect yourself from people who don’t chose to do the right thing.

In summary, I am teaching my kids to do the right things. But realizing that sometimes people don’t, they should also take steps to protect themselves. My 10 year old gets this, and yes, I am proud.

I’m sure this is exactly what Brock Turner’s mother said as well. I’m sure they are proud of their son too.

So you have nothing of substance to say? Just insults?

Next time your son makes a stupid comment that a woman should not do X because Y will happen. Say no men should not do Y, and X does not cause it.

Please... for all the is good and holy in this world please stop being part of the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Enjoyable, but too much Latina dancing for my tastes. Would have preferred on of the artist to be from a different genre.

The Super Bowl was being held in Miami. Lot of "Latina" flavor in that area. If your tastes are for something more bland then cross your fingers and hope they hold it in Hartford, Connecticut next year.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.”

Out of the mouths of babes.

You should talk to your son about respecting women and their choices. Then explain to him that there are men who respect women and don’t feel the need to grope woman just bc they can. Hopefully you can raise him to be better than what he thinks of men now.

Nah. I’m proud that he recognized inappropriate sexual content that wasn’t necessary in a super bowl halftime show. Parenting win for me and the values I’m teaching my family. YMMV.

Yep, agree with you here.

Another who agrees with you.

+2 That show easily could have been toned down just a bit to make it more family appropriate. Fine for older teens and adults though.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.”

Out of the mouths of babes.

This was my exact thought! As a young person, I went to many punk shows and the girls who crowd surfed got groped while the girls who jumped in the mosh pit got punched.

Are you guys so stupid that you think the "crowd" was just random people. They were part of the show. Holy Camole!

My thought was that I hope the "crowd" were paid performers. I know what can and does happen to girls and women. I also had the thought that Shakira could've been groped. Not because of what she is wearing or because she was body surfing, but because there are disgusting, rapey people in this world. The fact that the thought even occurred to some of us is not a sign of stupidity but, rather, a sad reality of how girls and women are viewed and treated.

If you think she should not body surf to avoid being groped there is a problem. You should think, I hope they have security that can catch somebody if a disgusting rapist is in the crowd.

It was not about the body surfing, ffs! I've been to shows where girls were groped and one or more guys beat the crap out of the guy who did it. That's nice, but that doesn't take away the girl's exploitation. I was pointing to the fact that even thinking she could be groped is a sad reality.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.”

Out of the mouths of babes.

You should talk to your son about respecting women and their choices. Then explain to him that there are men who respect women and don’t feel the need to grope woman just bc they can. Hopefully you can raise him to be better than what he thinks of men now.

Nah. I’m proud that he recognized inappropriate sexual content that wasn’t necessary in a super bowl halftime show. Parenting win for me and the values I’m teaching my family. YMMV.

Yep, agree with you here.

She is raising a Brock Turner so no... no family values.

Curious how you made the leap from recognizing inappropriate sexual content to raising a Brock Turner. Care to elaborate on this mental leap? Can’t wait to hear what you come up with.

Dp but I’ll make the leap since you are trying to play dumb and confused. If you cannot teach your son not to grope women or if he is associating that being groped is determined by what a woman wears that’s a problem. If your son believes men will automatically grope a woman for what she is wearing, then the male figures aren’t doing much to lead by example. Women can wear whatever they want. Performers can wear any costume they want to perform in. Men do not have the right to touch a woman no matter what she is wearing or if she is passed out (ie Brock Turner). How many people want to blame a woman for getting raped bc of what she is wearing. Nope nope nope. Teach your sons better.

So “teach your sons better” will stop women from being groped?

I personally choose to live in the real world, rather than live in this “women can wear whatever they want and not be groped” La La Land a lot of people seem to live in. I, of course, am raising my son to be respectful of women. My assumption is most of us are. I am also teaching my son to be honest, not bully people, not steal, and be a general good person. In La La Land, I would expect perfect behavior from him 100% of the time, because after all, I taught him how to behave properly!

Now, in reality, he’s probably going to screw up and do some of the things I have taught him not to do. I’m hoping it’s none of the big ones - steal or hurt someone physically or whatever - but it will happen. Which is why at 10, even he is aware that men will grope women, even if it is wrong. It’s just the way it is.

For these reasons, I teach my 13 yo daughter to protect herself. She can choose to dress provocatively if she wishes, but that choice may come with consequences. Because some men are pigs -
That’s just the way the world is. It may suck, and it may not be right, but it is reality. This is also why we lock the doors when we leave the house instead of saying “teach people not to steal! Problem solved!” In La La Land, this is in easy fix. In the real world, you take steps to protect yourself from people who don’t chose to do the right thing.

In summary, I am teaching my kids to do the right things. But realizing that sometimes people don’t, they should also take steps to protect themselves. My 10 year old gets this, and yes, I am proud.

I’m sure this is exactly what Brock Turner’s mother said as well. I’m sure they are proud of their son too.

So you have nothing of substance to say? Just insults?

Next time your son makes a stupid comment that a woman should not do X because Y will happen. Say no men should not do Y, and X does not cause it.

Please... for all the is good and holy in this world please stop being part of the problem.

I have taught my son not to grope women. He knows it’s not appropriate. But he also knows it happens. I don’t know what’s so difficult about this concept.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.”

Out of the mouths of babes.

You should talk to your son about respecting women and their choices. Then explain to him that there are men who respect women and don’t feel the need to grope woman just bc they can. Hopefully you can raise him to be better than what he thinks of men now.

Nah. I’m proud that he recognized inappropriate sexual content that wasn’t necessary in a super bowl halftime show. Parenting win for me and the values I’m teaching my family. YMMV.

Yep, agree with you here.

She is raising a Brock Turner so no... no family values.

Curious how you made the leap from recognizing inappropriate sexual content to raising a Brock Turner. Care to elaborate on this mental leap? Can’t wait to hear what you come up with.

Dp but I’ll make the leap since you are trying to play dumb and confused. If you cannot teach your son not to grope women or if he is associating that being groped is determined by what a woman wears that’s a problem. If your son believes men will automatically grope a woman for what she is wearing, then the male figures aren’t doing much to lead by example. Women can wear whatever they want. Performers can wear any costume they want to perform in. Men do not have the right to touch a woman no matter what she is wearing or if she is passed out (ie Brock Turner). How many people want to blame a woman for getting raped bc of what she is wearing. Nope nope nope. Teach your sons better.

So “teach your sons better” will stop women from being groped?

I personally choose to live in the real world, rather than live in this “women can wear whatever they want and not be groped” La La Land a lot of people seem to live in. I, of course, am raising my son to be respectful of women. My assumption is most of us are. I am also teaching my son to be honest, not bully people, not steal, and be a general good person. In La La Land, I would expect perfect behavior from him 100% of the time, because after all, I taught him how to behave properly!

Now, in reality, he’s probably going to screw up and do some of the things I have taught him not to do. I’m hoping it’s none of the big ones - steal or hurt someone physically or whatever - but it will happen. Which is why at 10, even he is aware that men will grope women, even if it is wrong. It’s just the way it is.

For these reasons, I teach my 13 yo daughter to protect herself. She can choose to dress provocatively if she wishes, but that choice may come with consequences. Because some men are pigs -
That’s just the way the world is. It may suck, and it may not be right, but it is reality. This is also why we lock the doors when we leave the house instead of saying “teach people not to steal! Problem solved!” In La La Land, this is in easy fix. In the real world, you take steps to protect yourself from people who don’t chose to do the right thing.

In summary, I am teaching my kids to do the right things. But realizing that sometimes people don’t, they should also take steps to protect themselves. My 10 year old gets this, and yes, I am proud.

Well said. We are doing the same thing. In short, teaching common sense - something that is clearly in short supply here in DCUM-land.

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Anonymous wrote:It's 2020, these are professional, talented, established women. So why do they need to perform in lingerie?

The outfits were fine, it was the very sexually charged dance moves and Shakira's tongue "thing" she did for no apparent reason that made me question what the hell I was watching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pole dancing? Why??

my 17yr old asked if she was a stripper

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Anonymous wrote:It's 2020, these are professional, talented, established women. So why do they need to perform in lingerie?

The outfits were fine, it was the very sexually charged dance moves and Shakira's tongue "thing" she did for no apparent reason that made me question what the hell I was watching.

It was a ululation, a nod to her Lebanese heritage. You DCUMers have no exposure to other cultures, it seems.

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The show was absolutely perfect for south Florida. It reminded me of the noon show at a Miami strip club.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked my 10 year old what he thought of the halftime show: “Awful. Too much sexual content. I thought Shakira was going to get groped in the stands.”

Out of the mouths of babes.

You should talk to your son about respecting women and their choices. Then explain to him that there are men who respect women and don’t feel the need to grope woman just bc they can. Hopefully you can raise him to be better than what he thinks of men now.

Nah. I’m proud that he recognized inappropriate sexual content that wasn’t necessary in a super bowl halftime show. Parenting win for me and the values I’m teaching my family. YMMV.

Yep, agree with you here.

She is raising a Brock Turner so no... no family values.

Curious how you made the leap from recognizing inappropriate sexual content to raising a Brock Turner. Care to elaborate on this mental leap? Can’t wait to hear what you come up with.

Dp but I’ll make the leap since you are trying to play dumb and confused. If you cannot teach your son not to grope women or if he is associating that being groped is determined by what a woman wears that’s a problem. If your son believes men will automatically grope a woman for what she is wearing, then the male figures aren’t doing much to lead by example. Women can wear whatever they want. Performers can wear any costume they want to perform in. Men do not have the right to touch a woman no matter what she is wearing or if she is passed out (ie Brock Turner). How many people want to blame a woman for getting raped bc of what she is wearing. Nope nope nope. Teach your sons better.

So “teach your sons better” will stop women from being groped?

I personally choose to live in the real world, rather than live in this “women can wear whatever they want and not be groped” La La Land a lot of people seem to live in. I, of course, am raising my son to be respectful of women. My assumption is most of us are. I am also teaching my son to be honest, not bully people, not steal, and be a general good person. In La La Land, I would expect perfect behavior from him 100% of the time, because after all, I taught him how to behave properly!

Now, in reality, he’s probably going to screw up and do some of the things I have taught him not to do. I’m hoping it’s none of the big ones - steal or hurt someone physically or whatever - but it will happen. Which is why at 10, even he is aware that men will grope women, even if it is wrong. It’s just the way it is.

For these reasons, I teach my 13 yo daughter to protect herself. She can choose to dress provocatively if she wishes, but that choice may come with consequences. Because some men are pigs -
That’s just the way the world is. It may suck, and it may not be right, but it is reality. This is also why we lock the doors when we leave the house instead of saying “teach people not to steal! Problem solved!” In La La Land, this is in easy fix. In the real world, you take steps to protect yourself from people who don’t chose to do the right thing.

In summary, I am teaching my kids to do the right things. But realizing that sometimes people don’t, they should also take steps to protect themselves. My 10 year old gets this, and yes, I am proud.

I’m sure this is exactly what Brock Turner’s mother said as well. I’m sure they are proud of their son too.

So you have nothing of substance to say? Just insults?

Next time your son makes a stupid comment that a woman should not do X because Y will happen. Say no men should not do Y, and X does not cause it.

Please... for all the is good and holy in this world please stop being part of the problem.

I have taught my son not to grope women. He knows it’s not appropriate. But he also knows it happens. I don’t know what’s so difficult about this concept.

Tim McGraw has been groped many times walking through the crowd... so he should stop walking through the crowd?

You son thinks Wow Tim McGraw needs to stop doing that!

No, you think WTF is wrong with these women. You also don't think he should stop walking through crowds.

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Anonymous wrote:It's 2020, these are professional, talented, established women. So why do they need to perform in lingerie?

The outfits were fine, it was the very sexually charged dance moves and Shakira's tongue "thing" she did for no apparent reason that made me question what the hell I was watching.

It was a ululation, a nod to her Lebanese heritage. You DCUMers have no exposure to other cultures, it seems.

Oh yes, thank you for pointing out that one is not officially worldly unless they know what the howling sound of ululation is

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pole dancing? Why??

my 17yr old asked if she was a stripper

Maybe they should stay out of strip clubs and learn about Mallakhamba.

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Anonymous wrote:It's 2020, these are professional, talented, established women. So why do they need to perform in lingerie?

The outfits were fine, it was the very sexually charged dance moves and Shakira's tongue "thing" she did for no apparent reason that made me question what the hell I was watching.

It was a ululation, a nod to her Lebanese heritage. You DCUMers have no exposure to other cultures, it seems.

Oh yes, thank you for pointing out that one is not officially worldly unless they know what the howling sound of ululation is

You're further making my point. It's done in many different cultures--Middle East, African, Asian cultures, etc.. But why would a DCUMer deign to know about this, I guess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's 2020, these are professional, talented, established women. So why do they need to perform in lingerie?

The outfits were fine, it was the very sexually charged dance moves and Shakira's tongue "thing" she did for no apparent reason that made me question what the hell I was watching.

It was a ululation, a nod to her Lebanese heritage. You DCUMers have no exposure to other cultures, it seems.

Oh yes, thank you for pointing out that one is not officially worldly unless they know what the howling sound of ululation is

But the fact is that the only social context you have for a tongue movement (even though a plethora of cultures do a similar thing) is oral sex. Do you know how pathetic that is?