Aftercare is cruel to kindergarteners

[Anonymous]

This thread is out of control. I'm so tired of the mommy wars. I see you everyday in my profession (ped). I see miserable moms who WOH, and see miserable moms who SAH. I see miserable kids whose parents WOH, and I see miserable kids whose parents SAH. I see happy kids whose parents provide them a safe place to live, structure, food, and love. I see happy kids whose parents aren't on their phones texting all the time (I see this with SAHMs more than WOHMs). You have to do what works best for your family.

I'd love for the OP to spend a day at work with me, watch her judge people-- she has NO idea why people make certain choices. NEVER judge a single mom- I had a patient who married the love of her life only to have her husband die in Afghanistan last year leaving her with four children. She's working now, and some of her kids are in childcare. And they are thriving. Not everyone is someone's baby mama. Only working so they can shop at Nordstroms? A nurse at our practice could have retired years ago, but the only reason she is still working is because her mother requires round the clock care that insurance doesn't cover and she isn't independently wealthy. I have some patients who have a parent working to afford special need healthcare expenses that aren't covered by insurance, not to have the latest and greatest. You really have no idea what is going on in the lives of most people, which is why there is no point in judging.

My own kids are in childcare four days a week. If they weren't, you wouldn't get an appointment with me after 2pm, which would mean you'd have to pull Larla out of school to see me, and take off work yourself. Doesn't seem to make much sense, right? Or I guess in your world I shouldn't even be working, had gone to school all those years- I should be home clipping coupons, depending on my husband (God forbid he were to get laid off or in an accident) for everything, sewing our clothes, and homeschooling. GET A JOB.

[Anonymous]

Amen, 9:53. But it's not just the "mommy" wars. It's a culture war. And it never fails that the most rabid voices are the ones advocating for regression, idealizing some 1950's notion of "the perfect family." Um, hello? Seen Mad Men? My grandmother (before she died, God rest her soul) would attest to Betty's unnamed, unfathomable despair at being nothing more than a pretty face who plays at happy homemaker all day while her husband gets all the accolades and spoils. Every choice has its consequences, but there is no "perfect" ideal from which we've strayed - only reality, with which the foaming at the mouth ideologues on this board are clearly incapable of coming to grips.

[Anonymous]

I like you, Ped!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Owning my mistakes?How am I not owning anything?

You're denying having unprotected sex. There was no "broken condom". There was no condom period. Just admit it.

And put a space between sentences.

You MUST be in high school. Go to sex ed STAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Owning my mistakes?How am I not owning anything?

You're denying having unprotected sex. There was no "broken condom". There was no condom period. Just admit it.

And put a space between sentences.

You MUST be in high school. Go to sex ed STAT.

Looks like one of us passed that class, and it wasn't you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Canadians, your medications cost 1/4 of what we pay here, your government fixes the prices on brand medications and allows for importation of cheap generics before the Us patent on brands expires.

+1 Try paying the US market rate and then come back.

I don't thnk this is true.
In Canada, I paid 178 a month for concerta.
I think it's cheaper in the US.
I don't think all meds are cheaper in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Owning my mistakes?How am I not owning anything?

You're denying having unprotected sex. There was no "broken condom". There was no condom period. Just admit it.

And put a space between sentences.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is out of control. I'm so tired of the mommy wars. I see you everyday in my profession (ped). I see miserable moms who WOH, and see miserable moms who SAH. I see miserable kids whose parents WOH, and I see miserable kids whose parents SAH. I see happy kids whose parents provide them a safe place to live, structure, food, and love. I see happy kids whose parents aren't on their phones texting all the time (I see this with SAHMs more than WOHMs). You have to do what works best for your family.

I'd love for the OP to spend a day at work with me, watch her judge people-- she has NO idea why people make certain choices. NEVER judge a single mom- I had a patient who married the love of her life only to have her husband die in Afghanistan last year leaving her with four children. She's working now, and some of her kids are in childcare. And they are thriving. Not everyone is someone's baby mama. Only working so they can shop at Nordstroms? A nurse at our practice could have retired years ago, but the only reason she is still working is because her mother requires round the clock care that insurance doesn't cover and she isn't independently wealthy. I have some patients who have a parent working to afford special need healthcare expenses that aren't covered by insurance, not to have the latest and greatest. You really have no idea what is going on in the lives of most people, which is why there is no point in judging.

My own kids are in childcare four days a week. If they weren't, you wouldn't get an appointment with me after 2pm, which would mean you'd have to pull Larla out of school to see me, and take off work yourself. Doesn't seem to make much sense, right? Or I guess in your world I shouldn't even be working, had gone to school all those years- I should be home clipping coupons, depending on my husband (God forbid he were to get laid off or in an accident) for everything, sewing our clothes, and homeschooling. GET A JOB.

As the daughter of a SAHM and as a working parent myself with 2 kids in care, I just wanted to say THANK YOU for going into a profession that helps our kids. One of mine has some health needs that can be life-threatening and we are thankful there are good people who've chosen to enter professions that help keep our child alive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Canadians, your medications cost 1/4 of what we pay here, your government fixes the prices on brand medications and allows for importation of cheap generics before the Us patent on brands expires.

True. And how many new drugs has Canada come up with since they nationalized their drug industry?

Zero.

So wrong it's not even funny. But nice try.

Well, it's been a few years since I researched this. What are some of these Canadian drug innovations?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is out of control. I'm so tired of the mommy wars. I see you everyday in my profession (ped). I see miserable moms who WOH, and see miserable moms who SAH. I see miserable kids whose parents WOH, and I see miserable kids whose parents SAH. I see happy kids whose parents provide them a safe place to live, structure, food, and love. I see happy kids whose parents aren't on their phones texting all the time (I see this with SAHMs more than WOHMs). You have to do what works best for your family.

I'd love for the OP to spend a day at work with me, watch her judge people-- she has NO idea why people make certain choices. NEVER judge a single mom- I had a patient who married the love of her life only to have her husband die in Afghanistan last year leaving her with four children. She's working now, and some of her kids are in childcare. And they are thriving. Not everyone is someone's baby mama. Only working so they can shop at Nordstroms? A nurse at our practice could have retired years ago, but the only reason she is still working is because her mother requires round the clock care that insurance doesn't cover and she isn't independently wealthy. I have some patients who have a parent working to afford special need healthcare expenses that aren't covered by insurance, not to have the latest and greatest. You really have no idea what is going on in the lives of most people, which is why there is no point in judging.

My own kids are in childcare four days a week. If they weren't, you wouldn't get an appointment with me after 2pm, which would mean you'd have to pull Larla out of school to see me, and take off work yourself. Doesn't seem to make much sense, right? Or I guess in your world I shouldn't even be working, had gone to school all those years- I should be home clipping coupons, depending on my husband (God forbid he were to get laid off or in an accident) for everything, sewing our clothes, and homeschooling. GET A JOB.

Thanks for this, PP. I do want to point out, however, that OP updated and is apparently a guy. Who may or may not have a stay-at-home wife.

[Anonymous]

This thread is out of control.

Typical input from someone who feels their point of view is not being adequately defended.

[Anonymous]

I thought that guy was not OP but rather the person who posted to tell people to stop feeding the troll...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well maybe I won't win mom of the year for this but my kid is happier on the days she goes to daycare and she sleeps better too. I'm pretty sure I would suck at staying at home - I would go mad and DD would be bored and unstimulated. For me, it's not about economics. It's about what works for the personalities in my family. I could afford to stay home. I choose not to.

Me too. Glad my kids see their parents have an equal partnership where both parents have careers.

[Anonymous]

This has been an epic troll post, and the crazy troll isnt even the OP!

[Anonymous]

This place makes me want to leave. File for bankruptcy after buying my ticket to some international beach grab the baby and leave