FCPS Skyview Boundary Revised Scenario 1 / 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing was solved here. Schools are still overcrowded or now, possibly half empty.

They should have made it an AI/Robotics/Engineering magnet school. They would have had a full school and it would have drawn from all the other schools - with no arguing.

This is an epic disaster.

The SB and Reid have failed the schools. Having some schools between 75-85% capacity and others at over 105% when there is a new high school and plenty of space at other schools is irresponsible. Decimating schools like Westfield and South Lakes to ensure the rich constituents are taken care of is just plain wrong and goes against the principles of education. These schools will lose electives and teachers and continue on a downward spiral. These redistricting decisions are so blatantly classist and racist. Vote for a new SB folks.

Democrat here who hates how left the school board is.

Your constant whining about classism and racism are what drives people straight into maga. Your views are not mainstream, even in the Democratic party.

If you think FCPS is racist, Then frankly you likely believe that everyone in the world is racist. Just absurd.

DP. It’s so obvious when a poster like you is coming from a place of extreme privilege that you want to preserve at all costs. You really can’t understand that people at South Lakes and Westfield don’t want to see their schools gutted?

[Anonymous]

How much money has fcps spent on boundary studies this year only for very little to have been resolved? This situation is criminal and highly inequitable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing was solved here. Schools are still overcrowded or now, possibly half empty.

They should have made it an AI/Robotics/Engineering magnet school. They would have had a full school and it would have drawn from all the other schools - with no arguing.

This is an epic disaster.

The SB and Reid have failed the schools. Having some schools between 75-85% capacity and others at over 105% when there is a new high school and plenty of space at other schools is irresponsible. Decimating schools like Westfield and South Lakes to ensure the rich constituents are taken care of is just plain wrong and goes against the principles of education. These schools will lose electives and teachers and continue on a downward spiral. These redistricting decisions are so blatantly classist and racist. Vote for a new SB folks.

Democrat here who hates how left the school board is.

Your constant whining about classism and racism are what drives people straight into maga. Your views are not mainstream, even in the Democratic party.

If you think FCPS is racist, Then frankly you likely believe that everyone in the world is racist. Just absurd.

DP. It’s so obvious when a poster like you is coming from a place of extreme privilege that you want to preserve at all costs. You really can’t understand that people at South Lakes and Westfield don’t want to see their schools gutted?

I am not interested in social engineering the public school system into the ground in the name of equity. I think the skyview purchase was rushed and probably not well thought through.

But when someone comes on this board and whines about the far left school board being racist, it’s laughably absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How much money has fcps spent on boundary studies this year only for very little to have been resolved? This situation is criminal and highly inequitable

Increasing the quantity of your whiny posts doesn’t make your faulty logic more valid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing was solved here. Schools are still overcrowded or now, possibly half empty.

They should have made it an AI/Robotics/Engineering magnet school. They would have had a full school and it would have drawn from all the other schools - with no arguing.

This is an epic disaster.

The SB and Reid have failed the schools. Having some schools between 75-85% capacity and others at over 105% when there is a new high school and plenty of space at other schools is irresponsible. Decimating schools like Westfield and South Lakes to ensure the rich constituents are taken care of is just plain wrong and goes against the principles of education. These schools will lose electives and teachers and continue on a downward spiral. These redistricting decisions are so blatantly classist and racist. Vote for a new SB folks.

Democrat here who hates how left the school board is.

Your constant whining about classism and racism are what drives people straight into maga. Your views are not mainstream, even in the Democratic party.

If you think FCPS is racist, Then frankly you likely believe that everyone in the world is racist. Just absurd.

DP. It’s so obvious when a poster like you is coming from a place of extreme privilege that you want to preserve at all costs. You really can’t understand that people at South Lakes and Westfield don’t want to see their schools gutted?

Neither Westfield or South Lakes is being "gutted." And, Skyview is not getting a school of "extreme privilege." It is going to be a good comprehensive school including all kinds of students. The kids in this area deserve a school that is in their community. If you are upset that they are leaving your community, you need to realize that some people don't like long bus rides to Westfield or IB at South Lakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing was solved here. Schools are still overcrowded or now, possibly half empty.

They should have made it an AI/Robotics/Engineering magnet school. They would have had a full school and it would have drawn from all the other schools - with no arguing.

This is an epic disaster.

The SB and Reid have failed the schools. Having some schools between 75-85% capacity and others at over 105% when there is a new high school and plenty of space at other schools is irresponsible. Decimating schools like Westfield and South Lakes to ensure the rich constituents are taken care of is just plain wrong and goes against the principles of education. These schools will lose electives and teachers and continue on a downward spiral. These redistricting decisions are so blatantly classist and racist. Vote for a new SB folks.

Democrat here who hates how left the school board is.

Your constant whining about classism and racism are what drives people straight into maga. Your views are not mainstream, even in the Democratic party.

If you think FCPS is racist, Then frankly you likely believe that everyone in the world is racist. Just absurd.

DP. It’s so obvious when a poster like you is coming from a place of extreme privilege that you want to preserve at all costs. You really can’t understand that people at South Lakes and Westfield don’t want to see their schools gutted?

I am not interested in social engineering the public school system into the ground in the name of equity. I think the skyview purchase was rushed and probably not well thought through.

But when someone comes on this board and whines about the far left school board being racist, it’s laughably absurd.

They are far left in some of their statements and far right in some of their actions, especially those relating to boundaries, where for 18 years they’ve followed a consistent practice of only reassigning kids to schools that are similarly or higher rated.

That’s a practice you no doubt favor, to the extent you approve of any boundary changes, so you’ve concluded the best way to ensure it continues is to label the board “far left” and deny the board’s actions contribute to widening existing disparities among schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing was solved here. Schools are still overcrowded or now, possibly half empty.

They should have made it an AI/Robotics/Engineering magnet school. They would have had a full school and it would have drawn from all the other schools - with no arguing.

This is an epic disaster.

The SB and Reid have failed the schools. Having some schools between 75-85% capacity and others at over 105% when there is a new high school and plenty of space at other schools is irresponsible. Decimating schools like Westfield and South Lakes to ensure the rich constituents are taken care of is just plain wrong and goes against the principles of education. These schools will lose electives and teachers and continue on a downward spiral. These redistricting decisions are so blatantly classist and racist. Vote for a new SB folks.

Democrat here who hates how left the school board is.

Your constant whining about classism and racism are what drives people straight into maga. Your views are not mainstream, even in the Democratic party.

If you think FCPS is racist, Then frankly you likely believe that everyone in the world is racist. Just absurd.

DP. It’s so obvious when a poster like you is coming from a place of extreme privilege that you want to preserve at all costs. You really can’t understand that people at South Lakes and Westfield don’t want to see their schools gutted?

Neither Westfield or South Lakes is being "gutted." And, Skyview is not getting a school of "extreme privilege." It is going to be a good comprehensive school including all kinds of students. The kids in this area deserve a school that is in their community. If you are upset that they are leaving your community, you need to realize that some people don't like long bus rides to Westfield or IB at South Lakes.

No one said Skyview will be a school of “extreme privilege.” Try and keep up. It’s other schools that are being protected while South Lakes and Westfield will be left well under capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what Crossfield?

Just stay at Oakton.

Skyview doesn’t need you if you’re going to complain like Karen’s all because Skyview doesn’t have a shiny football stadium.

This whole thing has been so tense and poorly planned.

What part of modify the building and add athletic fields before conducting yet another boundary study does FCPS not understand?

Like literally.

And you people have made it worse that now the Western part of Franklin farm could be split up and you’re elementary school can be cut up too.

Also, why does modified scenario 2 include a part of Dogwood nobody asked for.

The elementary schools that should be at Skyview are.

Coates

Floris

Fox Mill

McNair

Oak Hill

And the proposed Silver Line ES that may or may not be needed depending on all of these developments happening near Coates and the yields of students near the proposed site.

But Crossfield, you’ve made it clear, so buzz all the way off!

I don't know what's wrong with you, but it's stupid to blame an entire school for a vocal subset of the community at that school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing was solved here. Schools are still overcrowded or now, possibly half empty.

They should have made it an AI/Robotics/Engineering magnet school. They would have had a full school and it would have drawn from all the other schools - with no arguing.

This is an epic disaster.

The SB and Reid have failed the schools. Having some schools between 75-85% capacity and others at over 105% when there is a new high school and plenty of space at other schools is irresponsible. Decimating schools like Westfield and South Lakes to ensure the rich constituents are taken care of is just plain wrong and goes against the principles of education. These schools will lose electives and teachers and continue on a downward spiral. These redistricting decisions are so blatantly classist and racist. Vote for a new SB folks.

Democrat here who hates how left the school board is.

Your constant whining about classism and racism are what drives people straight into maga. Your views are not mainstream, even in the Democratic party.

If you think FCPS is racist, Then frankly you likely believe that everyone in the world is racist. Just absurd.

DP. It’s so obvious when a poster like you is coming from a place of extreme privilege that you want to preserve at all costs. You really can’t understand that people at South Lakes and Westfield don’t want to see their schools gutted?

Neither Westfield or South Lakes is being "gutted." And, Skyview is not getting a school of "extreme privilege." It is going to be a good comprehensive school including all kinds of students. The kids in this area deserve a school that is in their community. If you are upset that they are leaving your community, you need to realize that some people don't like long bus rides to Westfield or IB at South Lakes.

No one said Skyview will be a school of “extreme privilege.” Try and keep up. It’s other schools that are being protected while South Lakes and Westfield will be left well under capacity.

South Lakes and Westfield have plenty of construction, they will fill up quicker than you think. SLHS will be at 85%, that is not gutted. No one would complain if Dogwood was moved to Skyview and not Fox Mill or Floris because the Dogwood students are FARMs students, their departure doesn’t hurt the test scores. It’s not about losing students, it’s about what students are leaving. The anger is that the schools that were moved against their wishes to boost SLHS test scores leaving. Maybe if the county had removed IB and replaced it with AP this wouldn’t be happening. And Herndon High would have more of its top students because there would not be an easy to pupil place, close by school to move to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Floris? They would have to pass McNair to get to Floris. It's definitely closest to Dogwood.

Polo Fields is closer to McNair, but also adjacent to Floris. Were it in Floris, they'd probably send the buses up Monroe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing was solved here. Schools are still overcrowded or now, possibly half empty.

They should have made it an AI/Robotics/Engineering magnet school. They would have had a full school and it would have drawn from all the other schools - with no arguing.

This is an epic disaster.

The SB and Reid have failed the schools. Having some schools between 75-85% capacity and others at over 105% when there is a new high school and plenty of space at other schools is irresponsible. Decimating schools like Westfield and South Lakes to ensure the rich constituents are taken care of is just plain wrong and goes against the principles of education. These schools will lose electives and teachers and continue on a downward spiral. These redistricting decisions are so blatantly classist and racist. Vote for a new SB folks.

Democrat here who hates how left the school board is.

Your constant whining about classism and racism are what drives people straight into maga. Your views are not mainstream, even in the Democratic party.

If you think FCPS is racist, Then frankly you likely believe that everyone in the world is racist. Just absurd.

DP. It’s so obvious when a poster like you is coming from a place of extreme privilege that you want to preserve at all costs. You really can’t understand that people at South Lakes and Westfield don’t want to see their schools gutted?

Neither Westfield or South Lakes is being "gutted." And, Skyview is not getting a school of "extreme privilege." It is going to be a good comprehensive school including all kinds of students. The kids in this area deserve a school that is in their community. If you are upset that they are leaving your community, you need to realize that some people don't like long bus rides to Westfield or IB at South Lakes.

No one said Skyview will be a school of “extreme privilege.” Try and keep up. It’s other schools that are being protected while South Lakes and Westfield will be left well under capacity.

South Lakes and Westfield have plenty of construction, they will fill up quicker than you think. SLHS will be at 85%, that is not gutted. No one would complain if Dogwood was moved to Skyview and not Fox Mill or Floris because the Dogwood students are FARMs students, their departure doesn’t hurt the test scores. It’s not about losing students, it’s about what students are leaving. The anger is that the schools that were moved against their wishes to boost SLHS test scores leaving. Maybe if the county had removed IB and replaced it with AP this wouldn’t be happening. And Herndon High would have more of its top students because there would not be an easy to pupil place, close by school to move to.

You're only using total population. SLHS total includes about 200 in a true special needs program isolated from the general student body so total gen ed is drops to about 75% not 85%. From a programming/staffing perspective, removing UMC Floris/Fox Mill will reduce the demand for higher level classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Floris? They would have to pass McNair to get to Floris. It's definitely closest to Dogwood.

Polo Fields is closer to McNair, but also adjacent to Floris. Were it in Floris, they'd probably send the buses up Monroe.

It’s definitely closest to McNair. Not to mention crossing Fairfax county adds a lot of time. The townhouses next to Herndon metro off of Sunrise Valley (which are right across the street from Polo Fields) are Coates. The neighborhoods across the street on the Fox Mill road side of the neighborhood is Floris. So it’s not that wild that Polo Fields got pulled into Carson/Skyview.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing was solved here. Schools are still overcrowded or now, possibly half empty.

They should have made it an AI/Robotics/Engineering magnet school. They would have had a full school and it would have drawn from all the other schools - with no arguing.

This is an epic disaster.

The SB and Reid have failed the schools. Having some schools between 75-85% capacity and others at over 105% when there is a new high school and plenty of space at other schools is irresponsible. Decimating schools like Westfield and South Lakes to ensure the rich constituents are taken care of is just plain wrong and goes against the principles of education. These schools will lose electives and teachers and continue on a downward spiral. These redistricting decisions are so blatantly classist and racist. Vote for a new SB folks.

Democrat here who hates how left the school board is.

Your constant whining about classism and racism are what drives people straight into maga. Your views are not mainstream, even in the Democratic party.

If you think FCPS is racist, Then frankly you likely believe that everyone in the world is racist. Just absurd.

DP. It’s so obvious when a poster like you is coming from a place of extreme privilege that you want to preserve at all costs. You really can’t understand that people at South Lakes and Westfield don’t want to see their schools gutted?

I am not interested in social engineering the public school system into the ground in the name of equity. I think the skyview purchase was rushed and probably not well thought through.

But when someone comes on this board and whines about the far left school board being racist, it’s laughably absurd.

The only social engineering going on is in the opposite manner of what you think. Neighborhoods right next to Skyview for example are not going there. Neighborhoods within a couple miles of South Lakes are going to Madison. And a lot folks who should be going to Westfield are not going. All rich neighborhoods. So yeah buddy, there is social engineering going on. Probably in the way you like though right so you wouldn’t call that social engineering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing was solved here. Schools are still overcrowded or now, possibly half empty.

They should have made it an AI/Robotics/Engineering magnet school. They would have had a full school and it would have drawn from all the other schools - with no arguing.

This is an epic disaster.

The SB and Reid have failed the schools. Having some schools between 75-85% capacity and others at over 105% when there is a new high school and plenty of space at other schools is irresponsible. Decimating schools like Westfield and South Lakes to ensure the rich constituents are taken care of is just plain wrong and goes against the principles of education. These schools will lose electives and teachers and continue on a downward spiral. These redistricting decisions are so blatantly classist and racist. Vote for a new SB folks.

Democrat here who hates how left the school board is.

Your constant whining about classism and racism are what drives people straight into maga. Your views are not mainstream, even in the Democratic party.

If you think FCPS is racist, Then frankly you likely believe that everyone in the world is racist. Just absurd.

DP. It’s so obvious when a poster like you is coming from a place of extreme privilege that you want to preserve at all costs. You really can’t understand that people at South Lakes and Westfield don’t want to see their schools gutted?

Neither Westfield or South Lakes is being "gutted." And, Skyview is not getting a school of "extreme privilege." It is going to be a good comprehensive school including all kinds of students. The kids in this area deserve a school that is in their community. If you are upset that they are leaving your community, you need to realize that some people don't like long bus rides to Westfield or IB at South Lakes.

No one said Skyview will be a school of “extreme privilege.” Try and keep up. It’s other schools that are being protected while South Lakes and Westfield will be left well under capacity.

South Lakes and Westfield have plenty of construction, they will fill up quicker than you think. SLHS will be at 85%, that is not gutted. No one would complain if Dogwood was moved to Skyview and not Fox Mill or Floris because the Dogwood students are FARMs students, their departure doesn’t hurt the test scores. It’s not about losing students, it’s about what students are leaving. The anger is that the schools that were moved against their wishes to boost SLHS test scores leaving. Maybe if the county had removed IB and replaced it with AP this wouldn’t be happening. And Herndon High would have more of its top students because there would not be an easy to pupil place, close by school to move to.

You're only using total population. SLHS total includes about 200 in a true special needs program isolated from the general student body so total gen ed is drops to about 75% not 85%. From a programming/staffing perspective, removing UMC Floris/Fox Mill will reduce the demand for higher level classes.

There are plenty of neighborhoods that are much closer than Fox Mill and especially Floris that could be shifted from other high schools like Madison and Oakton to pull SLHS back up but we all know that won’t happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone please explain why so many in crossfield are so laser focused on staying Oakton? I would MUCH prefer my teen having a close option like Skyview rather than the outrageously long commute to Oakton.

They paid oakton price to buy the house in oakton hs. They did not mind the commute to oakton when they bought the house and still do not mind that. For the people who were willing to pay the extra to buy in oakton hs, going to a better school out weighs 10+ minutes of extra commute time. As simple as that.

I actually do not understand why people who hates commute to oakton so much would buy in crossfield in the first place.

This right here is the answer. We bought houses in the Oakton district and absolutely knew the distance from our neighborhoods to the high school.

While I strongly prefer Oakton HS, my biggest concern is that scenario 1 is absolutely bananas in the way the board is proposing to split just a few Crossfield neighborhoods and send that handful of kids to Carson/Skyview. So my kids will have spent 7+ years with their peers at Crossfield, most of their class would move onto Franklin/Oakton, and then they would start MS knowing maybe 5 kids at a school of 1,400 (Carson). The math isn't mathing, and there is a plethora of research that shows what a terrible idea this is from a mental health standpoint.

There's nothing compelling about this. Everyone knows where their zoned high school is when they purchase a house and they also know that can be changed at any time. It makes NO sense to send Herndon kids all the way to Vienna to Oakton when there are going to be 800 empty seats at Westfield and 400 empty seats at South Lakes.

I find students' mental health pretty compelling, but to each their own.

Rezoning your house from Oakton to a close by high school has nothing to do with your HS kids mental health, since they will be grandfathered into Oakton.
More sleep will be great for future kids' mental health though.

Many of us don't have high schoolers who will be grandfathered anywhere, which is why we're concerned. My kids are in elementary and middle school.

Then they will go to whatever middle and high school they go to with the rest of your neighbors.

No they won't, that's the point. Scenario 1 breaks up Crossfield neighborhoods. Four districts will have buses going down the same street. Crossfield shouldn't be a 3/4-way split feeder (Carson, Franklin, Hughes) (Skyview, Oakton, South Lakes, Chantilly). Not to mention, a lot of these kids that are 6th graders now, will have to go to Carson for 1 year and then switch to another new school (Franklin) with a whole other group of new kids. They won't have the 2 years in MS to make friends going into HS.

Your last part isn't a great argument because right now, Crossfield kids are the only ones from Carson that go to Oakton. None of their new friends are going to high school with them. At least this way, in 8th, these kids will be at Franklin with Waples and Navy kids going to Oakton with them.

Navy AAP kids are at Carson currently and most of them are going to Oakton. At least 100 kids or more.

They tend to stick to their little AAP groups. My Honors child at Carson does not know any kids from Navy or Waples Mill.

That must just be your kid. My Carson AAP kid (from Waples) has a ton of friends from the other feeder schools. They hang out outside of school as well - recently going to the Vienna town carnival thing and they all met up at the mall one day over the long weekend. I don't think anyone is "sticking to their little AAP groups."

I think it would be a bit odd if kids didn’t make new friends at a new school. High school will be quite challenging for kids if they only stick to their AAP groups. Parents should encourage their kids to branch out.