Second round options for Woodward boundary study

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Anonymous wrote:Entire Garret park can be put in Woodward

Viers Mill ES can be put in WJ

Some area of Kenneddy can be added in Wooward.

It will take care of no school being over crowded. It will also insure WJ does not become another Whitman. It can keep Woodward and WJ FARMS closer.

VM should not have to drive by Woodward to go to WJ. That’s stupid!

VM is alreafdy going in WJ in some options. Instead of splitting VM , I will rather have entire VM going to WJ. WJ and Woodward are right next to each other so very little impact on bus ride time.

It is probably about a 5 minute ride.

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I like option A.

Less split articulations.

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Anonymous wrote:I like option B. Balances everyone needs. Just go with that one. option B = option best.

B and C are the wacky ones for us, but I get that this is super local.

We were untouched by the first boundary study.

DCC family here. C is best for us personally, B is worst, A and D are in the middle. But I don't want us DCC families to get stuck fighting against each other on which one is worst for our particular neighborhood, while the richer schools just get almost everything they want. These options are rigged.

They aready have everything. Instead of funding the schools who have less to have more they are shuffling everyone.

Schools get the same funding per student except for title 1 schools who get more.

Exactly and it should be based on need as the dcc schools have more kids struggling and the resources go to catch them up and help them and with one pot of money the principal’s have to make choices and the more academic kids lose out as the other kids have more needs to get them to graduate.

And yet even those extra resources don’t appear to be enough to move the needle on those kids who are struggling.

The problem is by the time you do catch up in MS or HS, its too late. They need to allocate far more resources in elementary schools to make sure every child who can be is on grade level. Do real evaluations, remediate any disabilities or SN with supports, therapies and reading teachers, have a better curriculum, and bring back the free online tutoring. By the time you get to high school, often its too late as these kids are struggling and have low self esteem and hate school.

Do you have any idea how expensive that is? There is neither the budget nor the political will do this. Sorry. And all of those “miracle” schools and programs like KIPP or in movies like “Waiting for Superman” are just cream skimming or culling through suspensions or sometimes outright kicking kids out to make the numbers look good. There are no easy fixes. And you’re right, those kids are cooked by that point.

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Anonymous wrote:Most growth will come in WJ/Woodward area so I am happy to see they are leaving some space. Having said that i don't want any school to be overcrowded when we have space in WJ and Woodward. Some adjustment can be made to change zones. May be 102--103% can fly if students population is not expected to go up but 107% is too much.

Every kid that's going to school in 2030 has been born already and is either in the county or will move there into existing housing. They can just agree to update boundaries again in 7-10 years based on what else happens population wise.

False. There a couple hundred townhouses and at least 400-500 apartments that will deliver in the current WJ zone well before 2030, in addition to recently completed apartments that haven’t leased out yet. WJ and Woodward will be plenty full by 2030 unless the county’s population collapses, but in that case, a lot of schools would have extra space.

There are also housing projects throughout the DCC

The DCC has always been filled with the projects, that's the problem

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Anonymous wrote:I like option B. Balances everyone needs. Just go with that one. option B = option best.

B and C are the wacky ones for us, but I get that this is super local.

We were untouched by the first boundary study.

DCC family here. C is best for us personally, B is worst, A and D are in the middle. But I don't want us DCC families to get stuck fighting against each other on which one is worst for our particular neighborhood, while the richer schools just get almost everything they want. These options are rigged.

They aready have everything. Instead of funding the schools who have less to have more they are shuffling everyone.

Schools get the same funding per student except for title 1 schools who get more.

Exactly and it should be based on need as the dcc schools have more kids struggling and the resources go to catch them up and help them and with one pot of money the principal’s have to make choices and the more academic kids lose out as the other kids have more needs to get them to graduate.

And yet even those extra resources don’t appear to be enough to move the needle on those kids who are struggling.

The problem is by the time you do catch up in MS or HS, its too late. They need to allocate far more resources in elementary schools to make sure every child who can be is on grade level. Do real evaluations, remediate any disabilities or SN with supports, therapies and reading teachers, have a better curriculum, and bring back the free online tutoring. By the time you get to high school, often its too late as these kids are struggling and have low self esteem and hate school.

Do you have any idea how expensive that is? There is neither the budget nor the political will do this. Sorry. And all of those “miracle” schools and programs like KIPP or in movies like “Waiting for Superman” are just cream skimming or culling through suspensions or sometimes outright kicking kids out to make the numbers look good. There are no easy fixes. And you’re right, those kids are cooked by that point.

There are already so many more resources poured into farms schools.

You are completely diminishing inputs such as the education level of the mother.

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Anonymous wrote:I like option B. Balances everyone needs. Just go with that one. option B = option best.

B and C are the wacky ones for us, but I get that this is super local.

We were untouched by the first boundary study.

DCC family here. C is best for us personally, B is worst, A and D are in the middle. But I don't want us DCC families to get stuck fighting against each other on which one is worst for our particular neighborhood, while the richer schools just get almost everything they want. These options are rigged.

They aready have everything. Instead of funding the schools who have less to have more they are shuffling everyone.

Schools get the same funding per student except for title 1 schools who get more.

Exactly and it should be based on need as the dcc schools have more kids struggling and the resources go to catch them up and help them and with one pot of money the principal’s have to make choices and the more academic kids lose out as the other kids have more needs to get them to graduate.

And yet even those extra resources don’t appear to be enough to move the needle on those kids who are struggling.

The problem is by the time you do catch up in MS or HS, its too late. They need to allocate far more resources in elementary schools to make sure every child who can be is on grade level. Do real evaluations, remediate any disabilities or SN with supports, therapies and reading teachers, have a better curriculum, and bring back the free online tutoring. By the time you get to high school, often its too late as these kids are struggling and have low self esteem and hate school.

Do you have any idea how expensive that is? There is neither the budget nor the political will do this. Sorry. And all of those “miracle” schools and programs like KIPP or in movies like “Waiting for Superman” are just cream skimming or culling through suspensions or sometimes outright kicking kids out to make the numbers look good. There are no easy fixes. And you’re right, those kids are cooked by that point.

There are already so many more resources poured into farms schools.

You are completely diminishing inputs such as the education level of the mother.

No, there aren’t. The funding goes into resource classes and other things. The smarter high performing kids equal to yours get very little.

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Anonymous wrote:Most growth will come in WJ/Woodward area so I am happy to see they are leaving some space. Having said that i don't want any school to be overcrowded when we have space in WJ and Woodward. Some adjustment can be made to change zones. May be 102--103% can fly if students population is not expected to go up but 107% is too much.

Every kid that's going to school in 2030 has been born already and is either in the county or will move there into existing housing. They can just agree to update boundaries again in 7-10 years based on what else happens population wise.

False. There a couple hundred townhouses and at least 400-500 apartments that will deliver in the current WJ zone well before 2030, in addition to recently completed apartments that haven’t leased out yet. WJ and Woodward will be plenty full by 2030 unless the county’s population collapses, but in that case, a lot of schools would have extra space.

There are also housing projects throughout the DCC

The DCC has always been filled with the projects, that's the problem

There are no projects. It has lower cost housing which is a good thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I like option B. Balances everyone needs. Just go with that one. option B = option best.

B and C are the wacky ones for us, but I get that this is super local.

We were untouched by the first boundary study.

DCC family here. C is best for us personally, B is worst, A and D are in the middle. But I don't want us DCC families to get stuck fighting against each other on which one is worst for our particular neighborhood, while the richer schools just get almost everything they want. These options are rigged.

They aready have everything. Instead of funding the schools who have less to have more they are shuffling everyone.

Schools get the same funding per student except for title 1 schools who get more.

Exactly and it should be based on need as the dcc schools have more kids struggling and the resources go to catch them up and help them and with one pot of money the principal’s have to make choices and the more academic kids lose out as the other kids have more needs to get them to graduate.

And yet even those extra resources don’t appear to be enough to move the needle on those kids who are struggling.

The problem is by the time you do catch up in MS or HS, its too late. They need to allocate far more resources in elementary schools to make sure every child who can be is on grade level. Do real evaluations, remediate any disabilities or SN with supports, therapies and reading teachers, have a better curriculum, and bring back the free online tutoring. By the time you get to high school, often its too late as these kids are struggling and have low self esteem and hate school.

Do you have any idea how expensive that is? There is neither the budget nor the political will do this. Sorry. And all of those “miracle” schools and programs like KIPP or in movies like “Waiting for Superman” are just cream skimming or culling through suspensions or sometimes outright kicking kids out to make the numbers look good. There are no easy fixes. And you’re right, those kids are cooked by that point.

There are already so many more resources poured into farms schools.

You are completely diminishing inputs such as the education level of the mother.

You think all of us are not educated. Think again.

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Anonymous wrote:I like option B. Balances everyone needs. Just go with that one. option B = option best.

B and C are the wacky ones for us, but I get that this is super local.

We were untouched by the first boundary study.

DCC family here. C is best for us personally, B is worst, A and D are in the middle. But I don't want us DCC families to get stuck fighting against each other on which one is worst for our particular neighborhood, while the richer schools just get almost everything they want. These options are rigged.

They aready have everything. Instead of funding the schools who have less to have more they are shuffling everyone.

Schools get the same funding per student except for title 1 schools who get more.

Exactly and it should be based on need as the dcc schools have more kids struggling and the resources go to catch them up and help them and with one pot of money the principal’s have to make choices and the more academic kids lose out as the other kids have more needs to get them to graduate.

And yet even those extra resources don’t appear to be enough to move the needle on those kids who are struggling.

The problem is by the time you do catch up in MS or HS, its too late. They need to allocate far more resources in elementary schools to make sure every child who can be is on grade level. Do real evaluations, remediate any disabilities or SN with supports, therapies and reading teachers, have a better curriculum, and bring back the free online tutoring. By the time you get to high school, often its too late as these kids are struggling and have low self esteem and hate school.

Do you have any idea how expensive that is? There is neither the budget nor the political will do this. Sorry. And all of those “miracle” schools and programs like KIPP or in movies like “Waiting for Superman” are just cream skimming or culling through suspensions or sometimes outright kicking kids out to make the numbers look good. There are no easy fixes. And you’re right, those kids are cooked by that point.

There are already so many more resources poured into farms schools.

You are completely diminishing inputs such as the education level of the mother.

No, there aren’t. The funding goes into resource classes and other things. The smarter high performing kids equal to yours get very little.

Yeah. That isn’t good. Maybe we should give those higher performing kids options to attend better schools. You know like some of programs we already have. That certainly seems to be a better and more affordable option for MCPS than trying to make all the resource and curriculum options the same, especially if they’re going to be underutilized.

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Anonymous wrote:I like option B. Balances everyone needs. Just go with that one. option B = option best.

B and C are the wacky ones for us, but I get that this is super local.

We were untouched by the first boundary study.

DCC family here. C is best for us personally, B is worst, A and D are in the middle. But I don't want us DCC families to get stuck fighting against each other on which one is worst for our particular neighborhood, while the richer schools just get almost everything they want. These options are rigged.

They aready have everything. Instead of funding the schools who have less to have more they are shuffling everyone.

Schools get the same funding per student except for title 1 schools who get more.

Exactly and it should be based on need as the dcc schools have more kids struggling and the resources go to catch them up and help them and with one pot of money the principal’s have to make choices and the more academic kids lose out as the other kids have more needs to get them to graduate.

And yet even those extra resources don’t appear to be enough to move the needle on those kids who are struggling.

The problem is by the time you do catch up in MS or HS, its too late. They need to allocate far more resources in elementary schools to make sure every child who can be is on grade level. Do real evaluations, remediate any disabilities or SN with supports, therapies and reading teachers, have a better curriculum, and bring back the free online tutoring. By the time you get to high school, often its too late as these kids are struggling and have low self esteem and hate school.

Do you have any idea how expensive that is? There is neither the budget nor the political will do this. Sorry. And all of those “miracle” schools and programs like KIPP or in movies like “Waiting for Superman” are just cream skimming or culling through suspensions or sometimes outright kicking kids out to make the numbers look good. There are no easy fixes. And you’re right, those kids are cooked by that point.

There are already so many more resources poured into farms schools.

You are completely diminishing inputs such as the education level of the mother.

No, there aren’t. The funding goes into resource classes and other things. The smarter high performing kids equal to yours get very little.

Yeah. That isn’t good. Maybe we should give those higher performing kids options to attend better schools. You know like some of programs we already have. That certainly seems to be a better and more affordable option for MCPS than trying to make all the resource and curriculum options the same, especially if they’re going to be underutilized.

Exactly. Keep the DCC. The regional programming changes are poorly thought out and frankly entirely unfair (putting criteria based magnets in richer schools and then giving those schools reserved seats in them?! WTF.)

[Anonymous]

When are the new Crown options coming out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When are the new Crown options coming out?

Oct 13

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Anonymous wrote:I like option B. Balances everyone needs. Just go with that one. option B = option best.

B and C are the wacky ones for us, but I get that this is super local.

We were untouched by the first boundary study.

DCC family here. C is best for us personally, B is worst, A and D are in the middle. But I don't want us DCC families to get stuck fighting against each other on which one is worst for our particular neighborhood, while the richer schools just get almost everything they want. These options are rigged.

They aready have everything. Instead of funding the schools who have less to have more they are shuffling everyone.

Schools get the same funding per student except for title 1 schools who get more.

Exactly and it should be based on need as the dcc schools have more kids struggling and the resources go to catch them up and help them and with one pot of money the principal’s have to make choices and the more academic kids lose out as the other kids have more needs to get them to graduate.

And yet even those extra resources don’t appear to be enough to move the needle on those kids who are struggling.

The problem is by the time you do catch up in MS or HS, its too late. They need to allocate far more resources in elementary schools to make sure every child who can be is on grade level. Do real evaluations, remediate any disabilities or SN with supports, therapies and reading teachers, have a better curriculum, and bring back the free online tutoring. By the time you get to high school, often its too late as these kids are struggling and have low self esteem and hate school.

Do you have any idea how expensive that is? There is neither the budget nor the political will do this. Sorry. And all of those “miracle” schools and programs like KIPP or in movies like “Waiting for Superman” are just cream skimming or culling through suspensions or sometimes outright kicking kids out to make the numbers look good. There are no easy fixes. And you’re right, those kids are cooked by that point.

There are already so many more resources poured into farms schools.

You are completely diminishing inputs such as the education level of the mother.

No, there aren’t. The funding goes into resource classes and other things. The smarter high performing kids equal to yours get very little.

Yeah. That isn’t good. Maybe we should give those higher performing kids options to attend better schools. You know like some of programs we already have. That certainly seems to be a better and more affordable option for MCPS than trying to make all the resource and curriculum options the same, especially if they’re going to be underutilized.

Exactly. Keep the DCC. The regional programming changes are poorly thought out and frankly entirely unfair (putting criteria based magnets in richer schools and then giving those schools reserved seats in them?! WTF.)

Ding ding ding. Moving IB from Einstein to BCC?!? WTF indeed.

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Anonymous wrote:I like option B. Balances everyone needs. Just go with that one. option B = option best.

B and C are the wacky ones for us, but I get that this is super local.

We were untouched by the first boundary study.

DCC family here. C is best for us personally, B is worst, A and D are in the middle. But I don't want us DCC families to get stuck fighting against each other on which one is worst for our particular neighborhood, while the richer schools just get almost everything they want. These options are rigged.

They aready have everything. Instead of funding the schools who have less to have more they are shuffling everyone.

Schools get the same funding per student except for title 1 schools who get more.

Exactly and it should be based on need as the dcc schools have more kids struggling and the resources go to catch them up and help them and with one pot of money the principal’s have to make choices and the more academic kids lose out as the other kids have more needs to get them to graduate.

And yet even those extra resources don’t appear to be enough to move the needle on those kids who are struggling.

The problem is by the time you do catch up in MS or HS, its too late. They need to allocate far more resources in elementary schools to make sure every child who can be is on grade level. Do real evaluations, remediate any disabilities or SN with supports, therapies and reading teachers, have a better curriculum, and bring back the free online tutoring. By the time you get to high school, often its too late as these kids are struggling and have low self esteem and hate school.

Do you have any idea how expensive that is? There is neither the budget nor the political will do this. Sorry. And all of those “miracle” schools and programs like KIPP or in movies like “Waiting for Superman” are just cream skimming or culling through suspensions or sometimes outright kicking kids out to make the numbers look good. There are no easy fixes. And you’re right, those kids are cooked by that point.

There are already so many more resources poured into farms schools.

You are completely diminishing inputs such as the education level of the mother.

No, there aren’t. The funding goes into resource classes and other things. The smarter high performing kids equal to yours get very little.

Yeah. That isn’t good. Maybe we should give those higher performing kids options to attend better schools. You know like some of programs we already have. That certainly seems to be a better and more affordable option for MCPS than trying to make all the resource and curriculum options the same, especially if they’re going to be underutilized.

That's what regional programs are doing.

Bussing 1/3rd of high school population outside of theirhome school is waste of money which is being done right now for DCC model. Just have stronger course at home school and for top 10% kids have regional programs.

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Anonymous wrote:I like option B. Balances everyone needs. Just go with that one. option B = option best.

B and C are the wacky ones for us, but I get that this is super local.

We were untouched by the first boundary study.

DCC family here. C is best for us personally, B is worst, A and D are in the middle. But I don't want us DCC families to get stuck fighting against each other on which one is worst for our particular neighborhood, while the richer schools just get almost everything they want. These options are rigged.

They aready have everything. Instead of funding the schools who have less to have more they are shuffling everyone.

Schools get the same funding per student except for title 1 schools who get more.

Exactly and it should be based on need as the dcc schools have more kids struggling and the resources go to catch them up and help them and with one pot of money the principal’s have to make choices and the more academic kids lose out as the other kids have more needs to get them to graduate.

And yet even those extra resources don’t appear to be enough to move the needle on those kids who are struggling.

The problem is by the time you do catch up in MS or HS, its too late. They need to allocate far more resources in elementary schools to make sure every child who can be is on grade level. Do real evaluations, remediate any disabilities or SN with supports, therapies and reading teachers, have a better curriculum, and bring back the free online tutoring. By the time you get to high school, often its too late as these kids are struggling and have low self esteem and hate school.

Do you have any idea how expensive that is? There is neither the budget nor the political will do this. Sorry. And all of those “miracle” schools and programs like KIPP or in movies like “Waiting for Superman” are just cream skimming or culling through suspensions or sometimes outright kicking kids out to make the numbers look good. There are no easy fixes. And you’re right, those kids are cooked by that point.

There are already so many more resources poured into farms schools.

You are completely diminishing inputs such as the education level of the mother.

No, there aren’t. The funding goes into resource classes and other things. The smarter high performing kids equal to yours get very little.

Yeah. That isn’t good. Maybe we should give those higher performing kids options to attend better schools. You know like some of programs we already have. That certainly seems to be a better and more affordable option for MCPS than trying to make all the resource and curriculum options the same, especially if they’re going to be underutilized.

Exactly. Keep the DCC. The regional programming changes are poorly thought out and frankly entirely unfair (putting criteria based magnets in richer schools and then giving those schools reserved seats in them?! WTF.)

DCC is a poor idea.

Giving fixed seats for home schools in regional program is also a poor idea.