Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

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Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


This is in violation of the NVRA. Maybe the Supreme Court issued their stay using your logic but we don't know because they didn't say. All we know is that this is in violation of the law and the Supreme Court is currently supporting it.


No. The NVRA (52 USC 20501) only applies to eligible citizens.

Read it. Don't take my word for it.


I read it— that’s not what it says.


Sure it does, section 6, 2.


The actual language of the NVRA is quoted above. Why don’t you quote what you think the language is?
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


This is in violation of the NVRA. Maybe the Supreme Court issued their stay using your logic but we don't know because they didn't say. All we know is that this is in violation of the law and the Supreme Court is currently supporting it.


No. The NVRA (52 USC 20501) only applies to eligible citizens.

Read it. Don't take my word for it.


I read it— that’s not what it says.


Sure it does, section 6, 2.


The actual language of the NVRA is quoted above. Why don’t you quote what you think the language is?


I mean, I just did but here you go

The purposes of this chapter are-
(1) to establish procedures that will increase the number of eligible citizens who register to vote in elections for Federal office;
(2) to make it possible for Federal, State, and local governments to implement this chapter in a manner that enhances the participation of ELIGIBLE CITIZENS as voters in elections for Federal office;
(3) to protect the integrity of the electoral process; and
(4) to ensure that accurate and current voter registration rolls are maintained.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


tell it to this lady



Why should she have to jump through hoops that you don't have to?


Because Republicans are cheating POSs.


Because we aren’t the ones who checked the box that we aren’t citizens. She made an error which is fine, but as a voter she does need to correct it. She can re register any time up to Election Day.


You need to read the filings. There is no requirement that she checked the box. There is only a requirement that someone with ID information that partially matches hers checked the box.


Plz link.
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Most of them did not check either box. That is not "self-identifying as a non-citizen." It is just not checking the box on a form. The right way to handle those is to contact them.
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Anonymous wrote:Most of them did not check either box. That is not "self-identifying as a non-citizen." It is just not checking the box on a form. The right way to handle those is to contact them.


They are contactef by mail TWICE and if they don't respond, they ate removed.

Yes, they did self identify as noncitizens.
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I hate the way Youngkin makes VA seem like sh#thole state. I’ll be so glad to see the last of him next year. VA usually gets pragmatic, kitchen table issue, non-culture war, boring, business friendly moderates in key state offices. Like Kaine and Warner. Youngkin makes the whole state look bad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


This is in violation of the NVRA. Maybe the Supreme Court issued their stay using your logic but we don't know because they didn't say. All we know is that this is in violation of the law and the Supreme Court is currently supporting it.


No. The NVRA (52 USC 20501) only applies to eligible citizens.

Read it. Don't take my word for it.


I read it— that’s not what it says.


Sure it does, section 6, 2.


The actual language of the NVRA is quoted above. Why don’t you quote what you think the language is?


I mean, I just did but here you go

The purposes of this chapter are-
(1) to establish procedures that will increase the number of eligible citizens who register to vote in elections for Federal office;
(2) to make it possible for Federal, State, and local governments to implement this chapter in a manner that enhances the participation of ELIGIBLE CITIZENS as voters in elections for Federal office;
(3) to protect the integrity of the electoral process; and
(4) to ensure that accurate and current voter registration rolls are maintained.



Yes that is the section setting out the purposes of the NVRA— which makes clear that one of the purposes is to enhance the participation of eligible citizens.

Purging eligible citizens from the voter rolls is therefore contrary to the purposes of the NVRA.

Here is the actual text of the NVRA on voter removal programs. —

(c) Voter removal programs
(1) A State may meet the requirement of subsection (a)(4) by establishing a program under which—
(A) change-of-address information supplied by the Postal Service through its licensees is used to identify registrants whose addresses may have changed; and
(B) if it appears from information provided by the Postal Service that—
(i) a registrant has moved to a different residence address in the same registrar's jurisdiction in which the registrant is currently registered, the registrar changes the registration records to show the new address and sends the registrant a notice of the change by forwardable mail and a postage prepaid pre-addressed return form by which the registrant may verify or correct the address information; or
(ii) the registrant has moved to a different residence address not in the same registrar's jurisdiction, the registrar uses the notice procedure described in subsection (d)(2) to confirm the change of address.

(2)(A) A State shall complete, not later than 90 days prior to the date of a primary or general election for Federal office, any program the purpose of which is to systematically remove the names of ineligible voters from the official lists of eligible voters.
(B) Subparagraph (A) shall not be construed to preclude—
(i) the removal of names from official lists of voters on a basis described in paragraph (3)(A) or (B) or (4)(A) of subsection (a); or
(ii) correction of registration records pursuant to this chapter.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


tell it to this lady



Why should she have to jump through hoops that you don't have to?


Because Republicans are cheating POSs.


Because we aren’t the ones who checked the box that we aren’t citizens. She made an error which is fine, but as a voter she does need to correct it. She can re register any time up to Election Day.


You need to read the filings. There is no requirement that she checked the box. There is only a requirement that someone with ID information that partially matches hers checked the box.


Plz link.


Go to SCOTUSBLOG.com emergency docket.
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Anonymous wrote:This is how it will work with Trump's rounding up 20 million people and putting them in concentration camps. There will be no due process or appeal. Just some Republican bureaucrat issuing arrest quotas.

Bet your Republican neighbor down the street is eyeing your house and car. They will turn you and move in to your house.

Do you trust Republicans or the "conservatives" who
post here with that power?


Get a grip. Every noncitizen vote cancels out the vote of a citizen. Removing illegal voting registrations is common sense. You sound completely unhinged all because the court acknowledges that the judge acted inappropriately to force those names back onto the voting roster to increase the opportunity to fraud.

And as shown with the link above out of Michigan, once an illegal vote is cast, it counts!


If this is such a concern, why wait until it's within the period the LAW says not to do it. Why not start a program YEARS ago?

Because this is a BS stunt to fix a problem that isn't really a problem. Non citizen voting has been illegal for a long time and multiple checks have found it's not an issue. One guy in Michigan and you guys are saying the sky is falling so that you can justify your illegal purge of actual citizen votes.

Lies and Cheating and projection to try and cover it up: The GOP way. You can't win fairly so you cheat and blame the other side.


The law doesn't say not to do it. That is a mistaken interpretation.


This is a stunt. It's BS. You know it, we know it.

Otherwise I say to you, Youngkin's admin is inefficient and unfit. They should have taken care of this long before now. Incompetence.

But we all know this is a BS stunt. He's such a MAGA loser.


From the SCOTUS emergency filing...

"...the district court below ordered Applicants, Virginia and its election officials, to place 1,600 SELF-IDENTIFIED NONCITIZENS back onto Virginia's rolls, in violation of Virginia law and common sense."


But that was a lie in the filing. They are not "self-identified non-citizens". Their citizenship was not verified or, if it was verified, it was not documented. As PP said above, if this was a legitimate issue, Virginia would have done this months ago. Youngkin intentionally waited until it was less than 90 days before the election to remove voters from the rolls. As with everything Republicans do, it is just a self-promotion stunt by Youngkin.


Your last portion is wrong, this was a preexisting program. On the 90th day, Youngkin changed the updates to “daily” from monthly.

Va Mercury:
“The 2006 law directs DMV to send monthly lists of people who failed to identify as citizens to the state Board of Elections to be further forwarded to local registrars. Youngkin’s Aug. 7 executive order called for daily purges based on DMV data.“


The process you are describing is dysfunctional. If they did not identify as a citizen, or identified as a non-citizen, how were they on the voter rolls in the first place? You don't automatically put every driver's license recipient on the voter rolls, and then check a month or so later whether to take them off. If they said they are not a citizen, you don't add them to the voter rolls. If they did not check any box, you send them a postcard telling them they cannot be added to the voter rolls without confirming that they are citizens.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I hate the way Youngkin makes VA seem like sh#thole state. I’ll be so glad to see the last of him next year. VA usually gets pragmatic, kitchen table issue, non-culture war, boring, business friendly moderates in key state offices. Like Kaine and Warner. Youngkin makes the whole state look bad.


I hate the way you democrats game systems instead of following rules.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


tell it to this lady



Why should she have to jump through hoops that you don't have to?


Because Republicans are cheating POSs.


Because we aren’t the ones who checked the box that we aren’t citizens. She made an error which is fine, but as a voter she does need to correct it. She can re register any time up to Election Day.


You need to read the filings. There is no requirement that she checked the box. There is only a requirement that someone with ID information that partially matches hers checked the box.


Plz link.


Here you go — read pp 7- 11

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24A407/330575/20241029144447914_24A407_Stay_Opp_UnitedStates.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I hate the way Youngkin makes VA seem like sh#thole state. I’ll be so glad to see the last of him next year. VA usually gets pragmatic, kitchen table issue, non-culture war, boring, business friendly moderates in key state offices. Like Kaine and Warner. Youngkin makes the whole state look bad.


Wow. I couldn't disagree more. It's a great state to live in and I feel lucky to have him as our governor. Wish he could run for another term.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hate the way Youngkin makes VA seem like sh#thole state. I’ll be so glad to see the last of him next year. VA usually gets pragmatic, kitchen table issue, non-culture war, boring, business friendly moderates in key state offices. Like Kaine and Warner. Youngkin makes the whole state look bad.


I hate the way you democrats game systems instead of following rules.


Agree. They are going after Youngkin hard because he has wide appeal, highly competent and Republican. He needs to watch his back.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hate the way Youngkin makes VA seem like sh#thole state. I’ll be so glad to see the last of him next year. VA usually gets pragmatic, kitchen table issue, non-culture war, boring, business friendly moderates in key state offices. Like Kaine and Warner. Youngkin makes the whole state look bad.


I hate the way you democrats game systems instead of following rules.


Oh you care about rules do you? What about the rule that you can’t purge voter rolls within 90 days before an election? Apparently you have double standards for who has to follow rules and which rules get followed. Typical hypocritical republican.
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Anonymous wrote:I hate the way Youngkin makes VA seem like sh#thole state. I’ll be so glad to see the last of him next year. VA usually gets pragmatic, kitchen table issue, non-culture war, boring, business friendly moderates in key state offices. Like Kaine and Warner. Youngkin makes the whole state look bad.


He is the best Gov in Va in years!! Love that he got rid of grocery tax!!
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