Gov. Youngkin issues statement after DOJ files lawsuit over noncitizen voting in Va.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's all about the timing. Yougkin went looking for a fight, got one, and the Roberts Court dutifully backed him up.

And Virginia has same-day registration anyway, so this is all a huge set up to get MAGA excited.


It was the DOJ that started this with their lawsuit, not Youngkin.

And why did the DOJ file the lawsuit?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is how it will work with Trump's rounding up 20 million people and putting them in concentration camps. There will be no due process or appeal. Just some Republican bureaucrat issuing arrest quotas.

Bet your Republican neighbor down the street is eyeing your house and car. They will turn you and move in to your house.

Do you trust Republicans or the "conservatives" who
post here with that power?


Get a grip. Every noncitizen vote cancels out the vote of a citizen. Removing illegal voting registrations is common sense. You sound completely unhinged all because the court acknowledges that the judge acted inappropriately to force those names back onto the voting roster to increase the opportunity to fraud.

And as shown with the link above out of Michigan, once an illegal vote is cast, it counts!


If this is such a concern, why wait until it's within the period the LAW says not to do it. Why not start a program YEARS ago?

Because this is a BS stunt to fix a problem that isn't really a problem. Non citizen voting has been illegal for a long time and multiple checks have found it's not an issue. One guy in Michigan and you guys are saying the sky is falling so that you can justify your illegal purge of actual citizen votes.

Lies and Cheating and projection to try and cover it up: The GOP way. You can't win fairly so you cheat and blame the other side.


The law doesn't say not to do it. That is a mistaken interpretation.


This is a stunt. It's BS. You know it, we know it.

Otherwise I say to you, Youngkin's admin is inefficient and unfit. They should have taken care of this long before now. Incompetence.

But we all know this is a BS stunt. He's such a MAGA loser.


From the SCOTUS emergency filing...

"...the district court below ordered Applicants, Virginia and its election officials, to place 1,600 SELF-IDENTIFIED NONCITIZENS back onto Virginia's rolls, in violation of Virginia law and common sense."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's all about the timing. Yougkin went looking for a fight, got one, and the Roberts Court dutifully backed him up.

And Virginia has same-day registration anyway, so this is all a huge set up to get MAGA excited.


It was the DOJ that started this with their lawsuit, not Youngkin.

And why did the DOJ file the lawsuit?


Good question. I doubt Harris liked the optics of the Biden DOJ fighting for illegal voters and they should have known they would lose in appeal..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


This is in violation of the NVRA. Maybe the Supreme Court issued their stay using your logic but we don't know because they didn't say. All we know is that this is in violation of the law and the Supreme Court is currently supporting it.


NVRA only applies to eligible voters. Keyword eligible. Non citizens are by definition not eligible voters therefore not subject to NVRA and can be removed at any time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


This is in violation of the NVRA. Maybe the Supreme Court issued their stay using your logic but we don't know because they didn't say. All we know is that this is in violation of the law and the Supreme Court is currently supporting it.


No. The NVRA (52 USC 20501) only applies to eligible citizens.

Read it. Don't take my word for it.
Anonymous
Who cares? What matters is how courts decide to handle the matter, not what is written.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


This is in violation of the NVRA. Maybe the Supreme Court issued their stay using your logic but we don't know because they didn't say. All we know is that this is in violation of the law and the Supreme Court is currently supporting it.


NVRA only applies to eligible voters. Keyword eligible. Non citizens are by definition not eligible voters therefore not subject to NVRA and can be removed at any time.


This just wrong. Here is what the NVRA says—

“ A State shall complete, not later than 90 days prior to the date of a primary or general election for Federal office, any program the purpose of which is to systematically remove the names of ineligible voters from the official lists of eligible voters.”

And the whole point of this provision and the DOJ lawsuit is that general programs that just do partial data matches like sweep citizens onto the list of purged registrations.

Again just because one John Smith at one time was recorded as ineligible doesn’t mean that John Smith actually was ineligible (maybe like that Trump voter they were trying to avoid jury duty) doesn’t mean they are still ineligible (maybe they naturalized) and— most of all— doesn’t mean that every other John Smith in Virginia is ineligible.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


This is in violation of the NVRA. Maybe the Supreme Court issued their stay using your logic but we don't know because they didn't say. All we know is that this is in violation of the law and the Supreme Court is currently supporting it.


No. The NVRA (52 USC 20501) only applies to eligible citizens.

Read it. Don't take my word for it.


I read it— that’s not what it says.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is how it will work with Trump's rounding up 20 million people and putting them in concentration camps. There will be no due process or appeal. Just some Republican bureaucrat issuing arrest quotas.

Bet your Republican neighbor down the street is eyeing your house and car. They will turn you and move in to your house.

Do you trust Republicans or the "conservatives" who
post here with that power?


Get a grip. Every noncitizen vote cancels out the vote of a citizen. Removing illegal voting registrations is common sense. You sound completely unhinged all because the court acknowledges that the judge acted inappropriately to force those names back onto the voting roster to increase the opportunity to fraud.

And as shown with the link above out of Michigan, once an illegal vote is cast, it counts!


If this is such a concern, why wait until it's within the period the LAW says not to do it. Why not start a program YEARS ago?

Because this is a BS stunt to fix a problem that isn't really a problem. Non citizen voting has been illegal for a long time and multiple checks have found it's not an issue. One guy in Michigan and you guys are saying the sky is falling so that you can justify your illegal purge of actual citizen votes.

Lies and Cheating and projection to try and cover it up: The GOP way. You can't win fairly so you cheat and blame the other side.


The law doesn't say not to do it. That is a mistaken interpretation.


This is a stunt. It's BS. You know it, we know it.

Otherwise I say to you, Youngkin's admin is inefficient and unfit. They should have taken care of this long before now. Incompetence.

But we all know this is a BS stunt. He's such a MAGA loser.


From the SCOTUS emergency filing...

"...the district court below ordered Applicants, Virginia and its election officials, to place 1,600 SELF-IDENTIFIED NONCITIZENS back onto Virginia's rolls, in violation of Virginia law and common sense."


But that was a lie in the filing. They are not "self-identified non-citizens". Their citizenship was not verified or, if it was verified, it was not documented. As PP said above, if this was a legitimate issue, Virginia would have done this months ago. Youngkin intentionally waited until it was less than 90 days before the election to remove voters from the rolls. As with everything Republicans do, it is just a self-promotion stunt by Youngkin.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


This is in violation of the NVRA. Maybe the Supreme Court issued their stay using your logic but we don't know because they didn't say. All we know is that this is in violation of the law and the Supreme Court is currently supporting it.


No. The NVRA (52 USC 20501) only applies to eligible citizens.

Read it. Don't take my word for it.


I read it— that’s not what it says.


Sure it does, section 6, 2.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is how it will work with Trump's rounding up 20 million people and putting them in concentration camps. There will be no due process or appeal. Just some Republican bureaucrat issuing arrest quotas.

Bet your Republican neighbor down the street is eyeing your house and car. They will turn you and move in to your house.

Do you trust Republicans or the "conservatives" who
post here with that power?


Get a grip. Every noncitizen vote cancels out the vote of a citizen. Removing illegal voting registrations is common sense. You sound completely unhinged all because the court acknowledges that the judge acted inappropriately to force those names back onto the voting roster to increase the opportunity to fraud.

And as shown with the link above out of Michigan, once an illegal vote is cast, it counts!


If this is such a concern, why wait until it's within the period the LAW says not to do it. Why not start a program YEARS ago?

Because this is a BS stunt to fix a problem that isn't really a problem. Non citizen voting has been illegal for a long time and multiple checks have found it's not an issue. One guy in Michigan and you guys are saying the sky is falling so that you can justify your illegal purge of actual citizen votes.

Lies and Cheating and projection to try and cover it up: The GOP way. You can't win fairly so you cheat and blame the other side.


The law doesn't say not to do it. That is a mistaken interpretation.


This is a stunt. It's BS. You know it, we know it.

Otherwise I say to you, Youngkin's admin is inefficient and unfit. They should have taken care of this long before now. Incompetence.

But we all know this is a BS stunt. He's such a MAGA loser.


From the SCOTUS emergency filing...

"...the district court below ordered Applicants, Virginia and its election officials, to place 1,600 SELF-IDENTIFIED NONCITIZENS back onto Virginia's rolls, in violation of Virginia law and common sense."


But that was a lie in the filing. They are not "self-identified non-citizens". Their citizenship was not verified or, if it was verified, it was not documented.


You’re wrong.

NBCNews:

“The state's plan flagged people for removal if they check a box on a Department of Motor Vehicles form declaring they are not a citizen or if they leave it blank.“

They were then given written notice to verify their citizenship within 14 days with their local registrar and those who did not do so were removed.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


tell it to this lady



Why should she have to jump through hoops that you don't have to?


Because Republicans are cheating POSs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is how it will work with Trump's rounding up 20 million people and putting them in concentration camps. There will be no due process or appeal. Just some Republican bureaucrat issuing arrest quotas.

Bet your Republican neighbor down the street is eyeing your house and car. They will turn you and move in to your house.

Do you trust Republicans or the "conservatives" who
post here with that power?


Get a grip. Every noncitizen vote cancels out the vote of a citizen. Removing illegal voting registrations is common sense. You sound completely unhinged all because the court acknowledges that the judge acted inappropriately to force those names back onto the voting roster to increase the opportunity to fraud.

And as shown with the link above out of Michigan, once an illegal vote is cast, it counts!


If this is such a concern, why wait until it's within the period the LAW says not to do it. Why not start a program YEARS ago?

Because this is a BS stunt to fix a problem that isn't really a problem. Non citizen voting has been illegal for a long time and multiple checks have found it's not an issue. One guy in Michigan and you guys are saying the sky is falling so that you can justify your illegal purge of actual citizen votes.

Lies and Cheating and projection to try and cover it up: The GOP way. You can't win fairly so you cheat and blame the other side.


The law doesn't say not to do it. That is a mistaken interpretation.


This is a stunt. It's BS. You know it, we know it.

Otherwise I say to you, Youngkin's admin is inefficient and unfit. They should have taken care of this long before now. Incompetence.

But we all know this is a BS stunt. He's such a MAGA loser.


From the SCOTUS emergency filing...

"...the district court below ordered Applicants, Virginia and its election officials, to place 1,600 SELF-IDENTIFIED NONCITIZENS back onto Virginia's rolls, in violation of Virginia law and common sense."


But that was a lie in the filing. They are not "self-identified non-citizens". Their citizenship was not verified or, if it was verified, it was not documented. As PP said above, if this was a legitimate issue, Virginia would have done this months ago. Youngkin intentionally waited until it was less than 90 days before the election to remove voters from the rolls. As with everything Republicans do, it is just a self-promotion stunt by Youngkin.


Your last portion is wrong, this was a preexisting program. On the 90th day, Youngkin changed the updates to “daily” from monthly.

Va Mercury:
“The 2006 law directs DMV to send monthly lists of people who failed to identify as citizens to the state Board of Elections to be further forwarded to local registrars. Youngkin’s Aug. 7 executive order called for daily purges based on DMV data.“
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


tell it to this lady



Why should she have to jump through hoops that you don't have to?


Because Republicans are cheating POSs.


Because we aren’t the ones who checked the box that we aren’t citizens. She made an error which is fine, but as a voter she does need to correct it. She can re register any time up to Election Day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to NPR’s hysterical lies, not a single person has been disenfranchised in VA.

Not even one.

Commonwealth of Virginia residents eligible to vote can still register during early voting or on Election Day, and cast provisional ballots.


tell it to this lady



Why should she have to jump through hoops that you don't have to?


Because Republicans are cheating POSs.


Because we aren’t the ones who checked the box that we aren’t citizens. She made an error which is fine, but as a voter she does need to correct it. She can re register any time up to Election Day.


You need to read the filings. There is no requirement that she checked the box. There is only a requirement that someone with ID information that partially matches hers checked the box.
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