Dad leaves toddler to die in hot car while he plays games on Play Station

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Anonymous wrote:I think he bailed on 1st family when got his hooks into young doctor. The docket entries suggest possible overlap.

1st wife spent years and $$$ trying to get child support. He is such a narc he didn't even bother showing in court, there are multiple civil orders for his arrest. Dude thinks rules don't apply to him. I guess the rules of biology, heat and thermodynamics either, or he just doesn't care.

A VR headset and drink were on the coffee table while that poor tot died a horrific and painful death over 3 hours. He was not a teen boy on school break. He could have brought her in and parked her in front of a screen with a snack, but he literally did not want to be bothered by her even to that degree. He told cops he KNEW the car would shut off after 20-30 min from past times doing this. I would unalive myself if I had done this accidentally, never mind deliberately.

I'd be happy for him to be strapped into a hot car in 111 degrees in direct sun. I'd push the remote start and time the ac turning off. Without the car moving the temp would start to rise before then.

Oh so alcohol was involved yet posts to DCUM focus on playstation. You guys have minds clouded with misandry and bias.

No test results have been announced in the media as to what was in the glass. Please stop inventing facts.

Family members if this cretin have arrived, perhaps? Because what he did is indefensible, by any standards.

Completely.

And the mom's behavior baffles me too. The judge was clear he can't be left alone with the remaining kids but mom is going on about him being a pillar of the community. Gaming community, perhaps. An anesthesiologist holds your life in their hands, would never trust her judgement as a doctor or mom. Had she left him in jail, would have had more sympathy, but not as much was if she didn't know he did this often. What a sick family.

If I see a tatted up anesthesiologist before I'm supposed to have surgery, I'm getting dressed and rescheduling at a different hospital. She looks sketchy.

[Anonymous]

The sealed case is almost certainly not a violent crime or if it is then it's a situation where they were able to convince a judge that the charges were totally bogus. Judges do not seal cases unless there is a really good reason why it would be unjust for a the court record to remain public. So it would either have to be super old with clear evidence the defendant had fully rehabilitated (too recent to apply in this case) or a situation where the alleged victim was shown to have lied or where there was evidence of planted tampering or police malfeasance.

It was not a DV case or if it was then they were able to show it was basically made up (which would actually be a great reason to seal a court record because it would be very unfair if you could just invent DV allegations against an ex and then there were DV allegations against him in the public record forever even though you knew there was no case and did it out of spite). Not saying that's what happened here and also not defending this dad -- I am horrified by his negligence here and think he should got to jail for killing his kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think he bailed on 1st family when got his hooks into young doctor. The docket entries suggest possible overlap.

1st wife spent years and $$$ trying to get child support. He is such a narc he didn't even bother showing in court, there are multiple civil orders for his arrest. Dude thinks rules don't apply to him. I guess the rules of biology, heat and thermodynamics either, or he just doesn't care.

A VR headset and drink were on the coffee table while that poor tot died a horrific and painful death over 3 hours. He was not a teen boy on school break. He could have brought her in and parked her in front of a screen with a snack, but he literally did not want to be bothered by her even to that degree. He told cops he KNEW the car would shut off after 20-30 min from past times doing this. I would unalive myself if I had done this accidentally, never mind deliberately.

I'd be happy for him to be strapped into a hot car in 111 degrees in direct sun. I'd push the remote start and time the ac turning off. Without the car moving the temp would start to rise before then.

Oh so alcohol was involved yet posts to DCUM focus on playstation. You guys have minds clouded with misandry and bias.

No test results have been announced in the media as to what was in the glass. Please stop inventing facts.

Family members if this cretin have arrived, perhaps? Because what he did is indefensible, by any standards.

Completely.

And the mom's behavior baffles me too. The judge was clear he can't be left alone with the remaining kids but mom is going on about him being a pillar of the community. Gaming community, perhaps. An anesthesiologist holds your life in their hands, would never trust her judgement as a doctor or mom. Had she left him in jail, would have had more sympathy, but not as much was if she didn't know he did this often. What a sick family.

If I see a tatted up anesthesiologist before I'm supposed to have surgery, I'm getting dressed and rescheduling at a different hospital. She looks sketchy.

Good luck with that.

I had surgery recently and my OR nurse was covered in tats and was also phenomenally skilled and I was lucky to have her. Surgical specialties tend to attract people with strong personalities because it requires tough fellowships and long hours on your feet and the ability to stay calm under pressure. A lot of OR docs and nurses love fast cars and rock climbing and stuff like that. So unsurprising that many also have tattoos. It's part of the culture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think he bailed on 1st family when got his hooks into young doctor. The docket entries suggest possible overlap.

1st wife spent years and $$$ trying to get child support. He is such a narc he didn't even bother showing in court, there are multiple civil orders for his arrest. Dude thinks rules don't apply to him. I guess the rules of biology, heat and thermodynamics either, or he just doesn't care.

A VR headset and drink were on the coffee table while that poor tot died a horrific and painful death over 3 hours. He was not a teen boy on school break. He could have brought her in and parked her in front of a screen with a snack, but he literally did not want to be bothered by her even to that degree. He told cops he KNEW the car would shut off after 20-30 min from past times doing this. I would unalive myself if I had done this accidentally, never mind deliberately.

I'd be happy for him to be strapped into a hot car in 111 degrees in direct sun. I'd push the remote start and time the ac turning off. Without the car moving the temp would start to rise before then.

Oh so alcohol was involved yet posts to DCUM focus on playstation. You guys have minds clouded with misandry and bias.

No test results have been announced in the media as to what was in the glass. Please stop inventing facts.

Family members if this cretin have arrived, perhaps? Because what he did is indefensible, by any standards.

Completely.

And the mom's behavior baffles me too. The judge was clear he can't be left alone with the remaining kids but mom is going on about him being a pillar of the community. Gaming community, perhaps. An anesthesiologist holds your life in their hands, would never trust her judgement as a doctor or mom. Had she left him in jail, would have had more sympathy, but not as much was if she didn't know he did this often. What a sick family.

If I see a tatted up anesthesiologist before I'm supposed to have surgery, I'm getting dressed and rescheduling at a different hospital. She looks sketchy.

Good luck with that.

I had surgery recently and my OR nurse was covered in tats and was also phenomenally skilled and I was lucky to have her. Surgical specialties tend to attract people with strong personalities because it requires tough fellowships and long hours on your feet and the ability to stay calm under pressure. A lot of OR docs and nurses love fast cars and rock climbing and stuff like that. So unsurprising that many also have tattoos. It's part of the culture.

Yeah...no. Lots of tattoos tend to tease out history of drugs, boozing, low intellect, mental illness, and/or poor decision making skills.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do we know if the child was special needs? If so, it wouldn't surprise me if they both (secretly/subconsciously) wanted him gone. If my husband killed my baby because of video games, I'd want him to rot in prison the rest of his life. She's acting very very weird.

The baby was a girl. Nothing has been said that indicates the child had special needs. The mother said in her text "She was perfect."

Almost seems like something you'd say about a special needs child. Seems very weird to write that in a text, unless you were trying to cover your tracks. Who knows.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

Car manufacturers would not have prevented this dad from getting on his Play Station and possibly day drinking. This was a regular pattern of deliberately leaving the kids in the car, not a one off error.

Your kids are luckier with you and DH and your commitment to their safety and well being. This loser was not that.

It's true -- like many I read that Washington Post piece years ago about how many of these cases are often purely accidental deaths due to overtired parents or some change in routine that causes a parent to not realize a child is sleeping in the back seat (e.g. they aren't usually the ones to take the baby to daycare and they fall into the routine of driving to work instead and forget). Safety features on cars that would for instance not allow you to lock the car without looking in the back seat or would play a loud alarm upon getting out of the car if there was a person in the back seat could have saved lives in those cases.

But this dad KNEW he was leaving the child in the car. He did it on purpose. He claims the car normally alerts him when it shuts off (and he claims he left the car on with the AC running) but he lied about other things (like how long the child had been in the car) so who knows. In any case this dad would have just ignored or overridden any alert designed to prevent him from accidentally leaving the child locked in a car on a 109 degree day. That was his goal.

Normally I have so much sympathy for parents in these cases but not in this one. This was child abuse and neglect.

I just can’t for the life of me wrap my mind around why the car on a hot day would be the chosen place to contain her?

Why not put her in her crib with snacks and an iPad? Not saying that is stellar parenting, but he could probably get away neglecting her for a while with screens and goldfish without the risk of heat death.

He was not only a lazy crap parent, but an incredibly stupid one.

Special needs = constant screaming and/or ability to buckle her in?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s not smart but he definitely is slick . Doesn’t work to avoid child support .
Leaves toddler in hot car on purpose knowing it would kill her.

These parents aren’t “forgetting” their kids are in the back. They do it on purpose and safety features inside a car wont help. They’ll just say they were listening to a podcast or music on ear pods so they couldn’t hear the alarm. They’ll come up with any story to feign ignorance about leaving their kid behind in the heat

He first told LE he went in to take a nap. Could have taken one in the car with the child.

Another leaving a kid in a hot car case.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/screaming-child-rescued-from-hot-car-in-south-florida-as-mom-shopped-at-walmart/

Serious jail time might help change parental behavior. Caring about the kid doesn't seem to. But, authorities don't hold them accountable either. Boat mom and dad have not been charged in AZ. Her dad is LE. And CS is back home and may not even get jail time given his wife's $ for lawyers and pleas on his behalf.

Cliche, but, would be nice if someone thought of the CHILDREN. Repeated patterns are not one off mistakes.

Info on the boat case - this is horrible. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/GMA/Family/4-month-baby-dies-extreme-heat-wave-tips/story?id=111853523

Mom got the bikini shot 4 mos post partum "snapped back" though, posted before the baby expired, earlier on the 4th. Matching outfits on all for the gram.

Encasing the baby in a too large flotation device on a day it was over 120 likely did not help, nor would the sun reflecting off the water. And they posted photos of them in the hospital with the dying child all over socials. Wonder if those parents were drinking? There is an older child in that family too. Smh. It is a man made lake in a DESERT, does no one have common sense anymore?

Young kids and the elderly do not regulate temps as well. Even in light of that 7/4 tragedy widely covered in media, CS did not alter his chosen patterns of behavior, mere weeks later, also in AZ. "You can't tell me" to his wife, to the Family Court judge - is it callousness? Selfishness? Acting out some kind of antisocial rage? He used doc wife for $, fancy trips and cars and as a way to not pay child support, no income. That she continues to coddle and make excuses for him is as crazy as the other couple posting images from the ICU of their dying infant. Being a parent used to be something that encouraged people to GROW UP and put others first. Even most TEEN parents manage to not kill their small children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think he bailed on 1st family when got his hooks into young doctor. The docket entries suggest possible overlap.

1st wife spent years and $$$ trying to get child support. He is such a narc he didn't even bother showing in court, there are multiple civil orders for his arrest. Dude thinks rules don't apply to him. I guess the rules of biology, heat and thermodynamics either, or he just doesn't care.

A VR headset and drink were on the coffee table while that poor tot died a horrific and painful death over 3 hours. He was not a teen boy on school break. He could have brought her in and parked her in front of a screen with a snack, but he literally did not want to be bothered by her even to that degree. He told cops he KNEW the car would shut off after 20-30 min from past times doing this. I would unalive myself if I had done this accidentally, never mind deliberately.

I'd be happy for him to be strapped into a hot car in 111 degrees in direct sun. I'd push the remote start and time the ac turning off. Without the car moving the temp would start to rise before then.

Oh so alcohol was involved yet posts to DCUM focus on playstation. You guys have minds clouded with misandry and bias.

No test results have been announced in the media as to what was in the glass. Please stop inventing facts.

Family members if this cretin have arrived, perhaps? Because what he did is indefensible, by any standards.

Completely.

And the mom's behavior baffles me too. The judge was clear he can't be left alone with the remaining kids but mom is going on about him being a pillar of the community. Gaming community, perhaps. An anesthesiologist holds your life in their hands, would never trust her judgement as a doctor or mom. Had she left him in jail, would have had more sympathy, but not as much was if she didn't know he did this often. What a sick family.

If I see a tatted up anesthesiologist before I'm supposed to have surgery, I'm getting dressed and rescheduling at a different hospital. She looks sketchy.

Good luck with that.

I had surgery recently and my OR nurse was covered in tats and was also phenomenally skilled and I was lucky to have her. Surgical specialties tend to attract people with strong personalities because it requires tough fellowships and long hours on your feet and the ability to stay calm under pressure. A lot of OR docs and nurses love fast cars and rock climbing and stuff like that. So unsurprising that many also have tattoos. It's part of the culture.

Yeah...no. Lots of tattoos tend to tease out history of drugs, boozing, low intellect, mental illness, and/or poor decision making skills.

That may have been true 50 years ago but tattoos are incredibly commonplace now. You are welcome to discriminate based on tattoos if you want but you should be aware this will probably be to your own detriment -- some of the most accomplished and intelligent people I know have many visible tattoos. Including doctors and lawyers and businesspeople.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we know if the child was special needs? If so, it wouldn't surprise me if they both (secretly/subconsciously) wanted him gone. If my husband killed my baby because of video games, I'd want him to rot in prison the rest of his life. She's acting very very weird.

The baby was a girl. Nothing has been said that indicates the child had special needs. The mother said in her text "She was perfect."

Almost seems like something you'd say about a special needs child. Seems very weird to write that in a text, unless you were trying to cover your tracks. Who knows.

"How many times" was either true or creating a record by her, I wondered. More details will likely come out at the hearing on 8/1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

Car manufacturers would not have prevented this dad from getting on his Play Station and possibly day drinking. This was a regular pattern of deliberately leaving the kids in the car, not a one off error.

Your kids are luckier with you and DH and your commitment to their safety and well being. This loser was not that.

It's true -- like many I read that Washington Post piece years ago about how many of these cases are often purely accidental deaths due to overtired parents or some change in routine that causes a parent to not realize a child is sleeping in the back seat (e.g. they aren't usually the ones to take the baby to daycare and they fall into the routine of driving to work instead and forget). Safety features on cars that would for instance not allow you to lock the car without looking in the back seat or would play a loud alarm upon getting out of the car if there was a person in the back seat could have saved lives in those cases.

But this dad KNEW he was leaving the child in the car. He did it on purpose. He claims the car normally alerts him when it shuts off (and he claims he left the car on with the AC running) but he lied about other things (like how long the child had been in the car) so who knows. In any case this dad would have just ignored or overridden any alert designed to prevent him from accidentally leaving the child locked in a car on a 109 degree day. That was his goal.

Normally I have so much sympathy for parents in these cases but not in this one. This was child abuse and neglect.

I just can’t for the life of me wrap my mind around why the car on a hot day would be the chosen place to contain her?

Why not put her in her crib with snacks and an iPad? Not saying that is stellar parenting, but he could probably get away neglecting her for a while with screens and goldfish without the risk of heat death.

He was not only a lazy crap parent, but an incredibly stupid one.

Special needs = constant screaming and/or ability to buckle her in?

It has been reported that the 7 & 9 year old told LE that he often kept all 3 in the car, so likely not SN. Just his vibe. The mom's text confirm their story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He’s not smart but he definitely is slick . Doesn’t work to avoid child support .
Leaves toddler in hot car on purpose knowing it would kill her.

These parents aren’t “forgetting” their kids are in the back. They do it on purpose and safety features inside a car wont help. They’ll just say they were listening to a podcast or music on ear pods so they couldn’t hear the alarm. They’ll come up with any story to feign ignorance about leaving their kid behind in the heat

He first told LE he went in to take a nap. Could have taken one in the car with the child.

Another leaving a kid in a hot car case.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/screaming-child-rescued-from-hot-car-in-south-florida-as-mom-shopped-at-walmart/

Serious jail time might help change parental behavior. Caring about the kid doesn't seem to. But, authorities don't hold them accountable either. Boat mom and dad have not been charged in AZ. Her dad is LE. And CS is back home and may not even get jail time given his wife's $ for lawyers and pleas on his behalf.

Cliche, but, would be nice if someone thought of the CHILDREN. Repeated patterns are not one off mistakes.

Info on the boat case - this is horrible. https://abcnews.go.com/amp/GMA/Family/4-month-baby-dies-extreme-heat-wave-tips/story?id=111853523

Mom got the bikini shot 4 mos post partum "snapped back" though, posted before the baby expired, earlier on the 4th. Matching outfits on all for the gram.

Encasing the baby in a too large flotation device on a day it was over 120 likely did not help, nor would the sun reflecting off the water. And they posted photos of them in the hospital with the dying child all over socials. Wonder if those parents were drinking? There is an older child in that family too. Smh. It is a man made lake in a DESERT, does no one have common sense anymore?

Young kids and the elderly do not regulate temps as well. Even in light of that 7/4 tragedy widely covered in media, CS did not alter his chosen patterns of behavior, mere weeks later, also in AZ. "You can't tell me" to his wife, to the Family Court judge - is it callousness? Selfishness? Acting out some kind of antisocial rage? He used doc wife for $, fancy trips and cars and as a way to not pay child support, no income. That she continues to coddle and make excuses for him is as crazy as the other couple posting images from the ICU of their dying infant. Being a parent used to be something that encouraged people to GROW UP and put others first. Even most TEEN parents manage to not kill their small children.

While definitely an error on the parents' part (120 degree heat! omg!) I don't feel it is as egregious or hard to comprehend as the CS case. They didn't understand the danger the heat posed to a child that young and they didn't know the signs that their child was in distress due to the heat (likely because the child was "napping"). Still absolutely awful but I think it's a case of true ignorance and not of willful negligence. Perhaps we should be more forceful in issuing heat advisories for very high temps when it comes to kids and maybe people need to be better educated on the fact that infants don't regulate their own temperature well. I had a baby in August in DC and I remember getting harassed by freinds and family members because I generally didn't put clothes on her when we were out of the house (just a thin blanket or cover to protect her from the sun) because I didn't want her to overheat in DC's 90+ weather with high humidity. A lot of people seem to erroneously believe babies can only be too cold and not to hot and a lot of older people constantly want to put more clothes and blankets on them. There is clearly misunderstanding about this.

But CS had been told by his wife not to leave the kids in the car. And also unlike the people on the boat he left his kid in a car and then totally forgot about her. For hours. As a PP put it upthread the best case scenario here would be that his daughter woke up and spent HOURS crying and hungry and alone in a vehicle while he played video games inside. He didn't just misunderstand the danger the heat posed to his kid (but also that) he straight up neglected a 2 year old and left her totally unattended for several hours. That by itself is child neglect even if it had not been 109 degrees and she had not been inside a car (though obviously these facts make it much much worse).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we know if the child was special needs? If so, it wouldn't surprise me if they both (secretly/subconsciously) wanted him gone. If my husband killed my baby because of video games, I'd want him to rot in prison the rest of his life. She's acting very very weird.

The baby was a girl. Nothing has been said that indicates the child had special needs. The mother said in her text "She was perfect."

Almost seems like something you'd say about a special needs child. Seems very weird to write that in a text, unless you were trying to cover your tracks. Who knows.

It is a weird thing to write, strange people with a sick, dysfunctional dynamic.

Her going on at the bond hearing about how she hardly seems the kids was hella strange too.

[Anonymous]

^sees

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do we know if the child was special needs? If so, it wouldn't surprise me if they both (secretly/subconsciously) wanted him gone. If my husband killed my baby because of video games, I'd want him to rot in prison the rest of his life. She's acting very very weird.

The baby was a girl. Nothing has been said that indicates the child had special needs. The mother said in her text "She was perfect."

Almost seems like something you'd say about a special needs child. Seems very weird to write that in a text, unless you were trying to cover your tracks. Who knows.

I have a special needs child and I have literally never described him as perfect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Terribly sad. RIP to the little one. Hoping that someday soon there will be a safety feature installed in cars to prevent this.

I have a minivan and one thing I do is open the sliding doors, every single time I park the car, regardless of when or where. It forces me to walk around the whole van and check the car seats, before closing the doors. DH has started doing this too when he drives the van.

Car manufacturers would not have prevented this dad from getting on his Play Station and possibly day drinking. This was a regular pattern of deliberately leaving the kids in the car, not a one off error.

Your kids are luckier with you and DH and your commitment to their safety and well being. This loser was not that.

It's true -- like many I read that Washington Post piece years ago about how many of these cases are often purely accidental deaths due to overtired parents or some change in routine that causes a parent to not realize a child is sleeping in the back seat (e.g. they aren't usually the ones to take the baby to daycare and they fall into the routine of driving to work instead and forget). Safety features on cars that would for instance not allow you to lock the car without looking in the back seat or would play a loud alarm upon getting out of the car if there was a person in the back seat could have saved lives in those cases.

But this dad KNEW he was leaving the child in the car. He did it on purpose. He claims the car normally alerts him when it shuts off (and he claims he left the car on with the AC running) but he lied about other things (like how long the child had been in the car) so who knows. In any case this dad would have just ignored or overridden any alert designed to prevent him from accidentally leaving the child locked in a car on a 109 degree day. That was his goal.

Normally I have so much sympathy for parents in these cases but not in this one. This was child abuse and neglect.

I just can’t for the life of me wrap my mind around why the car on a hot day would be the chosen place to contain her?

Why not put her in her crib with snacks and an iPad? Not saying that is stellar parenting, but he could probably get away neglecting her for a while with screens and goldfish without the risk of heat death.

He was not only a lazy crap parent, but an incredibly stupid one.

Special needs = constant screaming and/or ability to buckle her in?

That’s like every two-year-old at one time or another.