Dad leaves toddler to die in hot car while he plays games on Play Station

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely horrifying. What a piece of crap.

I am not ready to induct the mom based on thqt one text that was clearly sent after they'd found her daughter dead. We have no idea what her knowledge was of his behavior. It must be so hard to be a competent person married to a total idiot with regards to parenting because the instinct is to believe there is a floor to their incompetence as there would be for you.

Maybe she is to blame, I don't know. But hard to say without knowing more. I cannot imagine the pain of coming home to discover your baby is dead due to your spouse's selfish stupidity.


I think I largely agree with this. We don’t know what the status of their marriage was. Maybe she considered divorcing her man baby husband but was concerned about the kids being solely with him for half the time because she knew he was neglectful. It seemed he had done stuff like this before and this time he pushed it way too far.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Men who play video games are gross.


Guys in their 30s grew up on video games and some never gave them up, they enjoy them. It’s an activity like TV or reading for some. It’s not gross at all.

Maybe he was having an online relationship with another gamer. Or just addicted. One thing is for sure, he was a neglectful father who put himself first.
Anonymous
I'm typically sympathetic to these cases, but not this time. The older kids report having been left many times in the car, it was 111-ish degrees, the dad knew the A/C shut off after 30 minutes, and that baby was in there for over THREE HOURS. Sick sick sick. And the mother not only knew her husband's tendency to leave the kids in the car, but she also fought for his right to be released on bail. Horrifying.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Of course she's a doctor and beautiful and he looks as dimwitted as he clearly is.
Ladies, please. No dick is worth it. No princess wedding is worth it. Buy sperm is you want children.


Whatever, you misandrist twat


Hardly. I think these men are pathetic, but only women can stop it by refusing to create families with them.
My distaste is for the whole dynamic.


Shame on you. Spare us your indignation and generalizations. You are revolting and your thought process is disordered. Be better.


Video game addicts who neglect their children so badly that they die are the revolting ones. Shame on them. And spare us your indignation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course she's a doctor and beautiful and he looks as dimwitted as he clearly is.
Ladies, please. No dick is worth it. No princess wedding is worth it. Buy sperm is you want children.


Whatever, you misandrist twat


Hardly. I think these men are pathetic, but only women can stop it by refusing to create families with them.
My distaste is for the whole dynamic.


Shame on you. Spare us your indignation and generalizations. You are revolting and your thought process is disordered. Be better.


Do you have any anger toward this father? Or just random women frustrated by men like him?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There is something else going on. No mother who just lost her child has the wherewithal to text like that.


I thought it was odd that she wrote something like "You killed her. She was perfect." But I guess people aren't in their right minds when something like this happens.
Anonymous
Also, isn't it strange to be texting about this? Wouldn't they be racing to be together or at least talking on the phone?
A text back and forth like
How dare you kill our child!
I'm so sorry I killed our child!
seems very strange.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely horrifying. What a piece of crap.

I am not ready to induct the mom based on thqt one text that was clearly sent after they'd found her daughter dead. We have no idea what her knowledge was of his behavior. It must be so hard to be a competent person married to a total idiot with regards to parenting because the instinct is to believe there is a floor to their incompetence as there would be for you.

Maybe she is to blame, I don't know. But hard to say without knowing more. I cannot imagine the pain of coming home to discover your baby is dead due to your spouse's selfish stupidity.


I think I largely agree with this. We don’t know what the status of their marriage was. Maybe she considered divorcing her man baby husband but was concerned about the kids being solely with him for half the time because she knew he was neglectful. It seemed he had done stuff like this before and this time he pushed it way too far.


Her knowledge is expressed in texts that are now part of the court record.

The mother knew he did this and the other kids said it happened often.

The mother is a doctor with the means to hire responsible, competent child care, it was her DUTY as a parent to protect her kids. Dad wasn't into caregiving, he was an unemployed gamer. And she knew. She is the one who argued for him to be released. The KIDS were the ones who told the truth to LE, Dad lied repeatedly and then plead not guilty. Who would defend her if she kept on a paid child minder who was repeatedly putting the children's lives at risk? The child deserved a safe home and the mother was also reckless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Also, isn't it strange to be texting about this? Wouldn't they be racing to be together or at least talking on the phone?
A text back and forth like
How dare you kill our child!
I'm so sorry I killed our child!
seems very strange.


The mother went to the hospital with the dead child. The father was being questioned by police. So, texting. Handy in that it created a record of his prior acts and her knowledge, also supported by interviews of the older kids with LE.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is something else going on. No mother who just lost her child has the wherewithal to text like that.


I thought it was odd that she wrote something like "You killed her. She was perfect." But I guess people aren't in their right minds when something like this happens.


Why is this odd? He did kill her and she is remembering her child and what was lost when she died. It sounds like a "normal" thing to say if your child just died.

I also don't find it surprising she is advocating for him in court. I think with time she will realize her family is better off without him but right now it might feel like her family has already lost someone precious and she might just be scrambling to try and prevent her surviving kids from having a father in prison for killing their siblings (even if he deserves it).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely horrifying. What a piece of crap.

I am not ready to induct the mom based on thqt one text that was clearly sent after they'd found her daughter dead. We have no idea what her knowledge was of his behavior. It must be so hard to be a competent person married to a total idiot with regards to parenting because the instinct is to believe there is a floor to their incompetence as there would be for you.

Maybe she is to blame, I don't know. But hard to say without knowing more. I cannot imagine the pain of coming home to discover your baby is dead due to your spouse's selfish stupidity.


I think I largely agree with this. We don’t know what the status of their marriage was. Maybe she considered divorcing her man baby husband but was concerned about the kids being solely with him for half the time because she knew he was neglectful. It seemed he had done stuff like this before and this time he pushed it way too far.


Her knowledge is expressed in texts that are now part of the court record.

The mother knew he did this and the other kids said it happened often.

The mother is a doctor with the means to hire responsible, competent child care, it was her DUTY as a parent to protect her kids. Dad wasn't into caregiving, he was an unemployed gamer. And she knew. She is the one who argued for him to be released. The KIDS were the ones who told the truth to LE, Dad lied repeatedly and then plead not guilty. Who would defend her if she kept on a paid child minder who was repeatedly putting the children's lives at risk? The child deserved a safe home and the mother was also reckless.


Are you reading a source other than the Daily Mail article linked in the OP? That article only mentions 2 texts, one where she she says "I've told you not to do this" and another saying "you killed her" (paraphrasing, I'm in my phone).

The mom might have been reckless, I don't know, but I don't get that from those two tweets. Her saying "I've told you not to do this" may reference times he's done it for 5-10 minutes in less hot weather, and she may have felt based on those conversations he'd never leave a two year old asleep in 109 degree weather for three hours. I would also assume this and I also have a DH who sometimes makes errors in judgment that lead to me explaining stuff I had previously thought was obvious.

Unless more facts come out, this is on this a$$hat dad for being a neglectful, selfish, jerk
Anonymous
Horrible. Ladies don’t just get married to anyone. He’s a joke.
Anonymous
Women can’t win.

My DH has executive function issues and is also not a very capable parent.

We went to therapy and the therapist 100% took his side and they both acted like I was a type A shrew who needed to stop being so controlling and allow DH to suffer “natural consequences” and “figure things out on his own.”

In a situation like that, the options for DW are very limited. Unless you have documentation of abuse or neglect, you’ll be splitting 50/50 custody and the kids will be alone with DH half the time.

Even if you hire a good caregiver, it is still expensive and Nannies are human beings and will never be available 100% of the time. They get sick, their cars break down, things come up for their own children. You cannot outsource everything. I’m sure she was paying off med school loans and working her tail off.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Men who play video games are gross.


DCUM is a video game.
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