Men 45+ on OLD: are they all broke?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm cheap af, and also poor by DC standards (only $1 million in the bank and $200k income).

But the bigger problem is that I have no intention of dissipating my wealth on an over-the-hill woman.

What wealth?

At age 55 only one or two percent of the population have $1 million or more in retirement savings. Of that one or two percent, 95 percent are married.

For my $1 million, that's just what I've been able to create since a divorce 9 years ago. By the time I retire I hope it's 2-3 times larger.

Only one percent of the US population has $1 million plus in retirement savings but an astonishing 97.6% of DCUM posters have over $1 million in liquid assets, and the average poster has over $5 million and views being a mere millionaire as dire poverty. Amazing but true!

DCUM caters to UMC people. Seems like a lot of lawyers, doctors and techies on this site. Mostly people with kids in DMV privates, Arlington, Bethesda, McLean, etc.

Which is why this forum is usually insufferable and the posters out of touch with real America. Go to the politics forums and it’s insulated DC lobbyists and lawyers, paid DNC operatives.

As for the average American, most don’t make 100k. The dating problems here are different than the rest of the US. Women are nicer in the Midwest and south. Only place worse than here to date is LA. I lived in NY a while back and even found dating there easier than here as far as finding quality women.

I’ve represented clients with little or money in court and it shows they have real issues to deal with, the DC SAHM crowd is a disaster. Finally I’m glad I met my wife while I lived in NY and not here.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm cheap af, and also poor by DC standards (only $1 million in the bank and $200k income).

But the bigger problem is that I have no intention of dissipating my wealth on an over-the-hill woman.

What wealth?

At age 55 only one or two percent of the population have $1 million or more in retirement savings. Of that one or two percent, 95 percent are married.

For my $1 million, that's just what I've been able to create since a divorce 9 years ago. By the time I retire I hope it's 2-3 times larger.

Only one percent of the US population has $1 million plus in retirement savings but an astonishing 97.6% of DCUM posters have over $1 million in liquid assets, and the average poster has over $5 million and views being a mere millionaire as dire poverty. Amazing but true!

DCUM caters to UMC people. Seems like a lot of lawyers, doctors and techies on this site. Mostly people with kids in DMV privates, Arlington, Bethesda, McLean, etc.

Which is why this forum is usually insufferable and the posters out of touch with real America. Go to the politics forums and it’s insulated DC lobbyists and lawyers, paid DNC operatives.

As for the average American, most don’t make 100k. The dating problems here are different than the rest of the US. Women are nicer in the Midwest and south. Only place worse than here to date is LA. I lived in NY a while back and even found dating there easier than here as far as finding quality women.

I’ve represented clients with little or money in court and it shows they have real issues to deal with, the DC SAHM crowd is a disaster. Finally I’m glad I met my wife while I lived in NY and not here.

I met my DH in school in Boston and we got married when living in NYC. I still think the DC area is much cheaper to live. People are relatively down to earth. They are not as materialistic or maybe just not as physically attractive as NYC.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm cheap af, and also poor by DC standards (only $1 million in the bank and $200k income).

But the bigger problem is that I have no intention of dissipating my wealth on an over-the-hill woman.

What wealth?

At age 55 only one or two percent of the population have $1 million or more in retirement savings. Of that one or two percent, 95 percent are married.

For my $1 million, that's just what I've been able to create since a divorce 9 years ago. By the time I retire I hope it's 2-3 times larger.

Only one percent of the US population has $1 million plus in retirement savings but an astonishing 97.6% of DCUM posters have over $1 million in liquid assets, and the average poster has over $5 million and views being a mere millionaire as dire poverty. Amazing but true!

DCUM caters to UMC people. Seems like a lot of lawyers, doctors and techies on this site. Mostly people with kids in DMV privates, Arlington, Bethesda, McLean, etc.

Which is why this forum is usually insufferable and the posters out of touch with real America. Go to the politics forums and it’s insulated DC lobbyists and lawyers, paid DNC operatives.

As for the average American, most don’t make 100k. The dating problems here are different than the rest of the US. Women are nicer in the Midwest and south. Only place worse than here to date is LA. I lived in NY a while back and even found dating there easier than here as far as finding quality women.

I’ve represented clients with little or money in court and it shows they have real issues to deal with, the DC SAHM crowd is a disaster. Finally I’m glad I met my wife while I lived in NY and not here.

I agree about Midwest women. Happy I met DW while in college in the Midwest.

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At least in the DMV, you can get a home for $1m. Many people are stuck renting in Manhattan.

We have a friend who made good but not great money in nyc. They both made 200-300k each but couldn’t save enough to buy a place. With that same money in the DMV area, they bought a lovely house with good public schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Wealthy men don’t need OLD to find a date. They are like a flame to moths.

This. Most of these men never are on OLD. The wealthy lawyer marries his secretary. The MD's marry RN's.

MDs marrying the nurses and lawyers marrying secretaries is definitely not the norm.

DH is a surgeon and we know a handful of doctors who met their PA or nurse wives when they were med students or during residency but they are few.

I know a lot of lawyers and can’t think of one who married a secretary. I do know many lawyers who married other lawyers.

Doctors married doctors. Lawyers married lawyers.

The one doctor nurse couple I’m thinking of are already retired. I think they met at UPEnn like 40 years ago. They were in college. Husband went to med school. Wife went to nursing school.

The other doctor who married a PA married a model looking PA when he was a resident. She was stunning and really nice. Yale has a PA school.

I wonder how hard it is to get into UPenn nursing or Yale PA school. It is a good place to meet a husband.

I know a ton of doctor-nurse couples my age (40s). All the doctors are male and non-white--about half are immigrants and the other half are born here but are kids of immigrants. The nurses (female) are almost always not only white but blonde. Seeing so many of these couples feels kind of weird, as if there's some sort of transaction going on.

jealous much? blond women are the most desirable of course male doctors regardless of background want them too.

Anyone can be a fake blonde silly.

hmmm i wonder why women do that...

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Anonymous wrote:I'm cheap af, and also poor by DC standards (only $1 million in the bank and $200k income).

But the bigger problem is that I have no intention of dissipating my wealth on an over-the-hill woman.

You have no wealth to dissipate.

I nearly spat out (dissipated!) my coffee. Spot on.

What kind of gold digging losers are you guys dating when all you can think about is how much the women want you for your money?

It’s not the flex you think it is.

Right!?

This is DCUM. Everyone has 3M in liquid and 10M in the market.

Actually I have $4M in liquid and about $18M in the market and properties but I didn’t want to brag. And the women I date have no idea of my wealth. I don’t pay their way and they don’t pay mine though we do pay for each other’s dinners and other things from time to time. When we traveled to places like Mallorca, Corfu, Palawan, St Kitts, Antarctica, etc we each pay our way and split costs for any shared expenses (rooms, etc). Works well that way.

Yakis - a woman who may be making 200k/year paying for her dinners with you. It would be fair if you shared expenses pro-rats your wealth. Very few people would be comparable. It’s totally different from two mid 6-figures executives sharing expenses. You are cheap IMHO

You would never know. Too many gold diggers out there.

You can simply decline taking her to an expensive restaurant for the first date; offer a coffee/drinks. If you start seeing each other, see if she reciprocates at least gets tickets for movies/theaters. But keeping scores like you do is just sick, IMHO. Being extremely wealthy, you have your girlfriends subsidize your travel: you are a wealthy kept man/toy boy. And also bitter about women.

Not even close. We pay 50/50 for our travel so no gf subsidy. And they don’t have a clue about my wealth so no harm no foul. If I ever got the slightest hint they were a gold digger I would end the relationship.

So you are cheap as F. People at your wealth level would travel business class, stay at Ritz etc. You could have just offered her to pay in what’s fair and just have a nicer vacation. But instead you find average well-off women who pay 50% traveling “economy”. Either she has to invest much higher share of her income into posh travel at your level (which is unfair as you are extremely wealthy), or you basically travel middle class. You are a cheap wealthy gigolo

PP here. Wait a just minute. Your rant is full of many assumptions. Who says we don’t travel well. We do travel well. Business class for the most part and mostly use miles as I have a lot of them from my business travel. And we stay in very nice accommodations. I’m certainly not cheap. But your biggest incorrect assumption is that I date people who make less than me or have a lower NW. Honestly, I can’t remember the last time I dated someone who presumably made less than me or had an apparent lower NW. But that wasn’t a requirement as I could care less what they make or their NW, but high income and NW people just happens to be the circles I hang out in socially. In fact, the 50/50 thing is better for both of us, as I don’t want them to think I’m dating them for their money and expect them to pay for everything no matter how nice it is. Don’t you feel silly now.

Since number of eligible females with 18mm NW would be negligible, I call all you wrote BS

Not sure about their NW and what you say may be true but as far as income goes, it definitely exceeds mine. It’s just the circles I socialize in the women have a high income. So splitting travel and other things 50/50 is no big deal.

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Why do people wear the false eyelashes. It looks ridiculous always.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm cheap af, and also poor by DC standards (only $1 million in the bank and $200k income).

But the bigger problem is that I have no intention of dissipating my wealth on an over-the-hill woman.

You have no wealth to dissipate.

I nearly spat out (dissipated!) my coffee. Spot on.

What kind of gold digging losers are you guys dating when all you can think about is how much the women want you for your money?

It’s not the flex you think it is.

Right!?

This is DCUM. Everyone has 3M in liquid and 10M in the market.

Actually I have $4M in liquid and about $18M in the market and properties but I didn’t want to brag. And the women I date have no idea of my wealth. I don’t pay their way and they don’t pay mine though we do pay for each other’s dinners and other things from time to time. When we traveled to places like Mallorca, Corfu, Palawan, St Kitts, Antarctica, etc we each pay our way and split costs for any shared expenses (rooms, etc). Works well that way.

Yakis - a woman who may be making 200k/year paying for her dinners with you. It would be fair if you shared expenses pro-rats your wealth. Very few people would be comparable. It’s totally different from two mid 6-figures executives sharing expenses. You are cheap IMHO

You would never know. Too many gold diggers out there.

You can simply decline taking her to an expensive restaurant for the first date; offer a coffee/drinks. If you start seeing each other, see if she reciprocates at least gets tickets for movies/theaters. But keeping scores like you do is just sick, IMHO. Being extremely wealthy, you have your girlfriends subsidize your travel: you are a wealthy kept man/toy boy. And also bitter about women.

Not even close. We pay 50/50 for our travel so no gf subsidy. And they don’t have a clue about my wealth so no harm no foul. If I ever got the slightest hint they were a gold digger I would end the relationship.

So you are cheap as F. People at your wealth level would travel business class, stay at Ritz etc. You could have just offered her to pay in what’s fair and just have a nicer vacation. But instead you find average well-off women who pay 50% traveling “economy”. Either she has to invest much higher share of her income into posh travel at your level (which is unfair as you are extremely wealthy), or you basically travel middle class. You are a cheap wealthy gigolo

PP here. Wait a just minute. Your rant is full of many assumptions. Who says we don’t travel well. We do travel well. Business class for the most part and mostly use miles as I have a lot of them from my business travel. And we stay in very nice accommodations. I’m certainly not cheap. But your biggest incorrect assumption is that I date people who make less than me or have a lower NW. Honestly, I can’t remember the last time I dated someone who presumably made less than me or had an apparent lower NW. But that wasn’t a requirement as I could care less what they make or their NW, but high income and NW people just happens to be the circles I hang out in socially. In fact, the 50/50 thing is better for both of us, as I don’t want them to think I’m dating them for their money and expect them to pay for everything no matter how nice it is. Don’t you feel silly now.

Since number of eligible females with 18mm NW would be negligible, I call all you wrote BS

Not sure about their NW and what you say may be true but as far as income goes, it definitely exceeds mine. It’s just the circles I socialize in the women have a high income. So splitting travel and other things 50/50 is no big deal.

You claim having $4mm liquid assets and $18m in properties. Liquid should generate you on average 7% return/year; properties 5-11% depending on how profitable they are and location. That's $1.5-$2mm gross annual income that you should have. The number of attractive, single and relatively young women (and men) making it would be in single digits even in this area. Not a "social circle" as even local celebrities make less. It's usually 500-800K range that's realistic for women to achieve corporately or own business.
So yes, either you are just writing BS or you are cheap, petty man who makes average looking/earning women subsidize your posh travels

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people wear the false eyelashes. It looks ridiculous always.

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Most of the men on dating sites are broke. That’s why they are on there. No other woman wants them.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm cheap af, and also poor by DC standards (only $1 million in the bank and $200k income).

But the bigger problem is that I have no intention of dissipating my wealth on an over-the-hill woman.

What wealth?

At age 55 only one or two percent of the population have $1 million or more in retirement savings. Of that one or two percent, 95 percent are married.

For my $1 million, that's just what I've been able to create since a divorce 9 years ago. By the time I retire I hope it's 2-3 times larger.

Only one percent of the US population has $1 million plus in retirement savings but an astonishing 97.6% of DCUM posters have over $1 million in liquid assets, and the average poster has over $5 million and views being a mere millionaire as dire poverty. Amazing but true!

DCUM caters to UMC people. Seems like a lot of lawyers, doctors and techies on this site. Mostly people with kids in DMV privates, Arlington, Bethesda, McLean, etc.

Which is why this forum is usually insufferable and the posters out of touch with real America. Go to the politics forums and it’s insulated DC lobbyists and lawyers, paid DNC operatives.

As for the average American, most don’t make 100k. The dating problems here are different than the rest of the US. Women are nicer in the Midwest and south. Only place worse than here to date is LA. I lived in NY a while back and even found dating there easier than here as far as finding quality women.

I’ve represented clients with little or money in court and it shows they have real issues to deal with, the DC SAHM crowd is a disaster. Finally I’m glad I met my wife while I lived in NY and not here.

Yes, this is such a high-end web site that today's push ads are for AMEX green, LL Bean, and Randoplh sunglasses.

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Women with caterpillars on their eyelids are not hot

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Women with caterpillars on their eyelids are not hot

I've been single for a while and at this point I'd happily date a woman with a unibrow. =)

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The rich hot men don’t want saggy tits and a baggy old pussy. They can easily get an attractive woman in real life without using OLD. I mean what the hell did you expect?

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I am a divorced man 45. I am not on OLD because I am done with dating for ever. I tried my best in my marriage and still got dumped. And yes I am broke. My income and wealth are okay and I am thankful but I am paying child support and spousal support. My ex wife easily got back on the dating scene and is "thriving" (per her words) in the dating scene. Despite our progress some gender norms still persist. Namely it is still totally okay for men to take the lion share of the expenses in the early phases of dating because we are the ones who must pursue women and not the other way around. I am choosing not to date because financially I just don't have anything to bring. And I do not want any potential date to ponder how she will navigate dating a "broke" buy like me. I may be wrong, but I feel like it takes money to impress women today. But I am happy single. I never realized how exhausting dealing with my ex wife was. For awhile I thought I was the issue given her relentless complaints about me....