It is so hard this year, McLean HS boy 4.6 GPA got rejected from UVA

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Anonymous wrote:Same, my 4.6 GPA son got rejected from UVA and WL at VT last year. White male persona non grata.

50% of all kids have grades like that these days. It's like a 3.2 back in my day. It would be best if you had more than the regular inflated GPA to differentiate yourself. Nevertheless, plenty of white males are admitted to these schools so that isn't the issue. Spreading your sour grapes with false accusations is irresponsible and wrong.

My son had a 4.7 and was in the top 5% of his class. If he was at 50%, then you could say "most kids". Math.

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.

So do they write these sob stories for you to post at the astroturfer office or do you just make them up?

I had to look up what astroturfing is.

No, I just wrote about what happened to my son. Everyone seems to think that this is made up because it is so ridiculous, but it's not made up. I guess it is your way of trying to defend a broken system.

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Be careful, then. You said your kid was just admitted and that you were going to file lawsuits against Virginia Tech. Don't mess this up for him.

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Anonymous wrote:Be careful, then. You said your kid was just admitted and that you were going to file lawsuits against Virginia Tech. Don't mess this up for him.

We are just doing the FOIA now and I will share the info with Students for Fair Admissions. If him not getting in was administrative in nature, then hope the admissions office can fix the problem. I am genuinely interested in finding out why. A lot of his VCCS professors and high school teachers want to know why also.

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Anonymous wrote:So political advocacy groups are taking advantage of the anonymous nature of this message board to gin up fake outrage in advance of filing lawsuits designed to prevent minorities from accessing educational opportunities.

Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud.

Just sharing facts. I know the thing to do whenever people disagree with you is to call them a racist, but when you do that it really means that you have no argument.

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.

It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.

He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.

Top 5% at your small high school doesn't mean top 5% of the 40,000 applications they got. Everyone wants to think their student is the best of the best, but you have to go into this process understanding that your view is very limited because you just don't know much about the enormous pool applying to these very popular schools.

Obviously, the major/program applied to are a huge part of this as well. As are recommendations, essays, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think OPs post is genuine based on what I’ve seen from my own child and his friend’s experiences with college admissions from FCPS. OP, what are your child’s ECs? Did he take the SAT or ACT? What major did he apply to? Excellent essays? Any discipline issues?

My son was more qualified than OP kid and was waitlisted at UVa and Tech. The admissions people don't care about quality, they care about quotas.

They probably had thousands of applicants with exactly those stats. Why should they take your kid when there are others who offer the same things - or better?

The average SAT for VT is 1285 and average GPA 4.05. So, no, 4.6 and 1550 is well above average and in no world should he have not gotten in.

The average SAT for VT is 1330, per SCHEV. Regardless, no one is owed admission. Probably a lot of applicants had better/more interesting/impressive ECs. Deal with it.
https://research.schev.edu/iprofile.asp?UID=233921

He got in through GAA and will be attending next fall. That is how I am dealing with it. Nobody has more impressive sport/ECAs than him The admissions office is broken.

Good to see you have a firm grip on reality.

Right?! That poster and her unhinged rants are so recognizable.

It's because I say the admissions system is broken in every post. And it is.

You say that in every post and you constantly talk about your son who was rejected from VT but went to CC and will be transferring there. Congratulations, great outcome, now please quit your whining.

I'm definitely not whining, I am letting people know how miserable the admissions office is and how kids can get into top tier state schools that they.may want to go to.

Oh, please. "The system is broken! The system is broken!" Whiner extraordinaire.

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Seriously, the system is broken.

Np. It is broken. That’s why we went with British schools

British schools? That's really interesting. Can you say more about that?

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.

It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.

He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.

Top 5% at your small high school doesn't mean top 5% of the 40,000 applications they got. Everyone wants to think their student is the best of the best, but you have to go into this process understanding that your view is very limited because you just don't know much about the enormous pool applying to these very popular schools.

Obviously, the major/program applied to are a huge part of this as well. As are recommendations, essays, etc.

Top 5% of a magnet math and science academy. One of the best schools in the state. He literally copied and pasted his essays from last year on his application for this year and he got in this year.. I know about the pool of students because I can see that he was well above average in every metric. 4.7/ 1550 has a nearly 100% acceptance rate. They need to fix the system.

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

Families shouldn't have to endure a manipulative years-long college admissions slog that too often fails to reward excellence and hard work. Your son clearly earned and deserved an opportunity the first time around. Such an experience can demoralize a young person. We need to create room for all of these talented and high achieving kids by adding more seats to the best schools and building more of them. And congratulations to your son on his triumph! He sounds like a young person of character and will have lessons to share with his children some day.

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Anonymous wrote:Same, my 4.6 GPA son got rejected from UVA and WL at VT last year. White male persona non grata.

Looking at the McLean insta, plenty of white kids getting into UVA. Clearly something wrong with your kid. In addition to his parent, that is.

UVA is 57% white and 13% Asian. I don’t know why but I thought it would have more Asians.

Often pick schools more highly ranked in the more vigorous majors. UVa is good at the easy majors.

Not true. It sent my kid to Oxford. UVA is the top public producer of Rhodes Scholars (not including West Point)

OMG.

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.

You are one odd duck. You’ve posted over and over and over about your son (or rather, his “best friend”) and CC route. Glad it worked out for you/him but it’s probably time to move on with your life, don’t you think? Tell your kid whatever you want - so bizarre.

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.

It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.

He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.

DP. You are an idiot. You have no idea what the other applications looked like. Your kid is a dime a dozen. At this point, I can see why he was rejected. The sense of entitlement is staggering. YOU are broken.

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Anonymous wrote:I just got my kids semester report card. DC has a 4.92 wgpa (4.0 uw), 1580 SAT, magnet, rejected from T15.

so, OP, your kid is not alone, and actually, kids with even higher scores than your kids are getting rejected at top schools.

I am so sorry. The college admissions experience is brutal, and most of our kids will experience rejection (ugh). Mine did.

The schools who rejected your child are certainly missing out. Your child has amazing stats and will succeed wherever they go!


A comforting article worth reading: https://raisingamericans.substack.com/p/deferred-or-rejected-by-a-dream-school

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

I'm totally telling my son that you think he is stupid.

It’s unfair that tens of thousands apply? These schools are getting over 40,000 (VT) and over 50,000 (UVA) applications. A student not getting into schools with giant applications pools isn’t unfair, it’s to be expected. If you expect admission when the odds are overwhelmingly not in your favor, that’s a sign of you understanding of probability, not a sign of broken admissions offices.

He was in the top 5% of his class and if you look at the applications that were accepted, he was better than pretty much all of them. You dont understand probably. The system is broken.

Top 5% at your small high school doesn't mean top 5% of the 40,000 applications they got. Everyone wants to think their student is the best of the best, but you have to go into this process understanding that your view is very limited because you just don't know much about the enormous pool applying to these very popular schools.

Obviously, the major/program applied to are a huge part of this as well. As are recommendations, essays, etc.

Top 5% of a magnet math and science academy. One of the best schools in the state. He literally copied and pasted his essays from last year on his application for this year and he got in this year.. I know about the pool of students because I can see that he was well above average in every metric. 4.7/ 1550 has a nearly 100% acceptance rate. They need to fix the system.

The transfer pool is MUCH smaller than the regular pool. So good for your kid that they stood out in the transfer pool. Time to celebrate their acceptance.

Imagine 20 years from now, your kid remembering how they go into VT and all you did was harp on why they didn't get in the year before.

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Anonymous wrote:My son’s best friend had this same experience last year, with a 4.4 and 1550 from a different FCPS high school. Half white, half Asian. Waitlisted at UVA, waitlisted at WM, deferred then waitlisted at VT, applied for business. Really didn’t want JMU, VCU, and didn’t think he’d need them so didn’t apply. Was accepted at NYU, Northeastern, and a few others, but ultimately the couldn’t afford it and he is at Nova and planning to try again via transfer.

I hope he realizes how stupid he was for not applying to JMU, VCU, etc. What was he thinking??

He applied to and was accepted into another state school, but he didn't want to go there. He wanted to go to an engineering school. We can only afford a state school in VA.

Very classy of you to call a 17 year old stupid.

You're right, it was his parents who stupidly didn't insist that he apply to more state schools that his family could AFFORD. Not sure what to tell you?

I guess we are stupid and poor. You are much better than us.

He wanted to go to an engineeing school in Va. That means Va Tech. As soon as he was waitlisted, we looked at GAA and decded to to that instead of go to his safety school. It worked out for him.

Another plug for VCCS: we didn't pay a dime all year He got grants each semester he was there, plus free covid cash, plus a free laptop . He is a rising junior going to an engineering school in Va without having paid anything. Wait a second; maybe we aren't stupid.

Wait - first you claim this is "your son's best friend," now you're saying this person is YOUR son? Which is it? Smells like a troll to me.

You are getting your high achieving people mixed up.

My son had a 4.7 GPA/1550 SAT/3 sports/ team captain/ played violin/ Eagle Scout/ volunteer/ engineering internship and engineering job/ top 5% of class. He was not accepted into VT or UVa last year, but was accepted into another state school in VA. He decided he did not want to go to the state school he was accepted to and wanted to go to VT via the GAA program. Just last week, he was accepted into the Engineering college and about 6 hours ago he was accepted into the Honors college. We didn't pay a penny for him to get through VCCS because of grants and free COVID money.

I have been on this forum to see if there are others like my son that were not accepted into these state schools and to see why he was not accepted. I have determined that the admissions office at VT (and UVa) is horribly broken. There are highly qualified students not getting into state schools for a lot of reasons that are unfair. I don't know if there is anything I can do about it, but I hope it gets better. I will be filing a FOIA request after he enrolls to see what happened to his application from high school and work with an organization called Students for Fair Admissions, the group that is currently suing schools to end affirmative action in college admissions. I think they should also end yield protection too.

I also want parents to know that if the admissions office f's their kid like mine was, the GAA program is outstanding. There is a curriculum that must be completed with a minimum GPA, and if it is completed satisfactorily you kid goes to any state school. The application is almost a formality.

Families shouldn't have to endure a manipulative years-long college admissions slog that too often fails to reward excellence and hard work. Your son clearly earned and deserved an opportunity the first time around. Such an experience can demoralize a young person. We need to create room for all of these talented and high achieving kids by adding more seats to the best schools and building more of them. And congratulations to your son on his triumph! He sounds like a young person of character and will have lessons to share with his children some day.

Huh? How about to where you get in & make the most of it.