Does University of Michigan live up to the hype?

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Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

+1

It's like reading People magazine to see who are the top 10 hottest guys of the year.

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Anonymous wrote:The state of Michigan has been dying and increasingly irrelevant for 50 years. The university made its bones when Detroit was a manufacturing, business, and engineering hub. Those days are long gone. I'd recommend going to college some place on the rise and warm, not a place which will decay before your eyes over four years.

Tell that to the electoral college.

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Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

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Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

Not everyone wants the same thing and those places you listed?
I think I lost my vomit emoji.
I'll take the pensioners in winter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

Not everyone wants the same thing and those places you listed?
I think I lost my vomit emoji.
I'll take the pensioners in winter.

Are you guys British?

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Anonymous wrote:Great safety if you get rejected from Boston College, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Vanderbilt and USC.

I’d add NYU, Villanova and Tufts and I’d mull adding Miami (FL) to the list. In the real world, Michigan is competing against George Washington and Wisconsin.

Random list of comparison colleges. No one who wants true city life like at NYU or GW is applying to Michigan. Of course Wisco is a peer and I guess I could see students being interested in Villanova and Michigan but there are a lot of obvious differences. Miami shares some overlap characteristics with Michigan minus the obvious - weather. Michigan is stronger academically than most of these, too. Tufts is very strong academically but is another planet to Michigan in terms of vibe.

Correction. Michigan is stronger academically than all of those…..

Michigan is higher ranked than all of those, but I disagree that means it is stronger academically. I honestly don’t know.

Michigan may have more “renowned” profs - but how much interaction are the undergrad students getting with those profs?

And does “renowned profs” even mean - they may have more ivy leagued educated profs or those who are more published, but does that makes them better teachers to undergrads?

Based on size alone, there is no way that the Michigan student body taken as a whole is more accomplished than those at Haverford, Tufts, etc. Also at my
kids’ hs, it is harder to get into Haverford and Tufts than Michigan.

And I’m not saying this makes Haverford or whatever better than Michigan. But the appeal of Michigan to an undergrad (and there is much to appeal!) usually isn’t rooted in its academic rigor surpassing these other colleges, unless a student is hung up on the ranking game.

My Michigan student chose it over Tufts and other mid-sized urban/suburban universities.

You are missing the PP's point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

Not everyone wants the same thing and those places you listed?
I think I lost my vomit emoji.
I'll take the pensioners in winter.

Are you guys British?

No, if memory serves, the crazed Michigan booster has lived in Michigan her entire life. And went to Michigan State for undergrad.

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Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

Not everyone wants the same thing and those places you listed?
I think I lost my vomit emoji.
I'll take the pensioners in winter.

Are you guys British?

No, if memory serves, the crazed Michigan booster has lived in Michigan her entire life. And went to Michigan State for undergrad.

I think there are a few "boosters" on this thread, but that has nothing to do with disliking Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach, and La Jolla.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

Not everyone wants the same thing and those places you listed?
I think I lost my vomit emoji.
I'll take the pensioners in winter.

Are you guys British?

No, if memory serves, the crazed Michigan booster has lived in Michigan her entire life. And went to Michigan State for undergrad.

I think there are a few "boosters" on this thread, but that has nothing to do with disliking Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach, and La Jolla.

I think you meant to say the crazed Michigan hater who went to MSU undergrad.

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Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

Not everyone wants the same thing and those places you listed?
I think I lost my vomit emoji.
I'll take the pensioners in winter.

Are you guys British?

No, if memory serves, the crazed Michigan booster has lived in Michigan her entire life. And went to Michigan State for undergrad.

I think there are a few "boosters" on this thread, but that has nothing to do with disliking Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach, and La Jolla.

I think you meant to say the crazed Michigan hater who went to MSU undergrad.

Yeah, I can’t imagine a Sparty grad boosting Michigan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

As opposed to the shut-in misanthrope who constantly discusses flyover areas of the country and disagrees with every metric that shows Ann Arbor and Michigan in a positive light. You’re an adult, I think, and not an 18 year old who has no interest attending schools in Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach, or La Jolla. With your painfully slanted views, why should anyone take you seriously?

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Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

Not everyone wants the same thing and those places you listed?
I think I lost my vomit emoji.
I'll take the pensioners in winter.

Are you guys British?

No, if memory serves, the crazed Michigan booster has lived in Michigan her entire life. And went to Michigan State for undergrad.

I think there are a few "boosters" on this thread, but that has nothing to do with disliking Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach, and La Jolla.

I think you meant to say the crazed Michigan hater who went to MSU undergrad.

Yeah, I can’t imagine a Sparty grad boosting Michigan.

Exactly. That’s why that comment is a complete joke.

[Anonymous]

There's been a nutter on College Confidential for nearly 20 years who went to Michigan State undergrad and UMich for graduate school. It seems to be her. Same obsessive and defensive tone about any and all things Michigan. She's never lived anywhere else, she has tens if not hundreds of thousands of posts.

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Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

Not everyone wants the same thing and those places you listed?
I think I lost my vomit emoji.
I'll take the pensioners in winter.

Are you guys British?

No, if memory serves, the crazed Michigan booster has lived in Michigan her entire life. And went to Michigan State for undergrad.

I think there are a few "boosters" on this thread, but that has nothing to do with disliking Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach, and La Jolla.

I think you meant to say the crazed Michigan hater who went to MSU undergrad.

Yeah, I can’t imagine a Sparty grad boosting Michigan.

MSU bachelor's, U-M for master's and lives in Ypsilanti or Ann Arbor.It's pretty obvious. Nobody who isn't trapped in the Rust Belt spams this obsessively.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's been a nutter on College Confidential for nearly 20 years who went to Michigan State undergrad and UMich for graduate school. It seems to be her. Same obsessive and defensive tone about any and all things Michigan. She's never lived anywhere else, she has tens if not hundreds of thousands of posts.

Maybe that lady is at work. I'm the one you were accusing above. And really, if UM is the diploma mill you seem to think it is, is it not likely there are more than a few of us here. You seem to be the one with an obsession. I've not yet been on College Confidential. My kids aren't old enough. Just an alumna.