Does University of Michigan live up to the hype?

[Anonymous]

There’s that clunky overwrought writing again. State schooler, for sure, but not a U-M bachelor’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

+1

It's like reading People magazine to see who are the top 10 hottest guys of the year.

This literally made me LOL. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anyone know when Univ EA will come out this year? Do you think earlier than last?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s that clunky overwrought writing again. State schooler, for sure, but not a U-M bachelor’s.

Sorry, engineering.
Just one writing class needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

As opposed to the shut-in misanthrope who constantly discusses flyover areas of the country and disagrees with every metric that shows Ann Arbor and Michigan in a positive light. You’re an adult, I think, and not an 18 year old who has no interest attending schools in Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach, or La Jolla. With your painfully slanted views, why should anyone take you seriously?

Where is your bachelor's degree from? Your defensive writing is juvenile. I'm assuming public k-12 followed by a non-selective public university for undergrad. You do not have a bachelor's degree from UMich, let alone an engineering degree. You're a parent or a random Michigander who found this forum or maybe a low-level UMich employee with nothing better to do all day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know when Univ EA will come out this year? Do you think earlier than last?

Bump. I've got a very eager rust-belt, fast-food, fly-by region- loving kid eager to hear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

As opposed to the shut-in misanthrope who constantly discusses flyover areas of the country and disagrees with every metric that shows Ann Arbor and Michigan in a positive light. You’re an adult, I think, and not an 18 year old who has no interest attending schools in Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach, or La Jolla. With your painfully slanted views, why should anyone take you seriously?

Where is your bachelor's degree from? Your defensive writing is juvenile. I'm assuming public k-12 followed by a non-selective public university for undergrad. You do not have a bachelor's degree from UMich, let alone an engineering degree. You're a parent or a random Michigander who found this forum or maybe a low-level UMich employee with nothing better to do all day.

That's not me
- engineering pp

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know when Univ EA will come out this year? Do you think earlier than last?

Bump. I've got a very eager rust-belt, fast-food, fly-by region- loving kid eager to hear.

Your kid was rejected by their first choice?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know when Univ EA will come out this year? Do you think earlier than last?

Bump. I've got a very eager rust-belt, fast-food, fly-by region- loving kid eager to hear.

IDK this year, but lots of friends' kids heard end of January last year. Used to have a link (Reddit?) to a post where the admit alerts were listed every day - you could see which college/uni coming out for the day as well as the ones for the remainder of the week. Alas, my youngest now in college this year and I can't find the link!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know when Univ EA will come out this year? Do you think earlier than last?

Bump. I've got a very eager rust-belt, fast-food, fly-by region- loving kid eager to hear.

Your kid was rejected by their first choice?

Not the PP. Perhaps, but my DD, now in college, has a lot of '23 friends who did not ED and are waiting on Michigan EA announcements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.

Only terminally online shut-ins cite this random junk data from US News and Parchment. I've worked in education for over 25 years, I've never heard a parent in real life cite this nonsense. Nobel laureates is another. No teenagers give a darn about how many laureates are at college xyz (laureates rarely even talk to undergrads). My favourite is when flyover country persons cite one of those fake best places to live lists. Yes sweetie, your 20 degree Rust Belt town full of pensioners and fast food is a better place to live than Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach and La Jolla.

As opposed to the shut-in misanthrope who constantly discusses flyover areas of the country and disagrees with every metric that shows Ann Arbor and Michigan in a positive light. You’re an adult, I think, and not an 18 year old who has no interest attending schools in Malibu, Monterey, Manhattan Beach, or La Jolla. With your painfully slanted views, why should anyone take you seriously?

Where is your bachelor's degree from? Your defensive writing is juvenile. I'm assuming public k-12 followed by a non-selective public university for undergrad. You do not have a bachelor's degree from UMich, let alone an engineering degree. You're a parent or a random Michigander who found this forum or maybe a low-level UMich employee with nothing better to do all day.

Oooh, you really told me off. Feel better now? You worked in education for over 25 years? Let me guess, junior high/middle school teacher with a BA in Education. It couldn’t be at the collegiate level, since discussions with parents wouldn’t be a part of your daily interactions. Imagine having someone so narrow minded such as yourself impairing your views on children. I pity your past, and hopefully not current, students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's just nothing unique at University of Michigan that is not available at a college in a state with better climate and lots of growth. It's a really overcrowded public university growing fast to cash in. It's located in a boring flyover country town in the middle of nowhere. It has the worst weather of any university in the top 50 (it will be in the 20s and 30s until April). And the state is crumbling and stagnant; smart residents can't flee fast enough. If University of Mississippi was suddenly in the top 30 college, would you all try to convince yourself it's great? That's basically Michigan right now. It's ranked highly because of it's legacy reputation and name rec (sports), not because it's a unique and special undergraduate setting.

You've posted this critique a number of times, and it really doesn't seem relevant to students picking U of M. OOS students don't have any real desire to live in Michigan anyway, and never really have (I attended U of M as an undergraduate in the '90's, when Michigan was doing well, but I none of my OOS friends ever intended to live there after graduation). So, the fact that Detroit is a dump is meaningless to them. And Ann Arbor is a perfectly nice college town that has everything college students are looking for during their 4 years there.

I mean, there are plenty of good or great schools in far worse places where students can't really venture off campus (I'm looking at you, Yale and U. Of Pennsylvania), that don't have any trouble attracting students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's just nothing unique at University of Michigan that is not available at a college in a state with better climate and lots of growth. It's a really overcrowded public university growing fast to cash in. It's located in a boring flyover country town in the middle of nowhere. It has the worst weather of any university in the top 50 (it will be in the 20s and 30s until April). And the state is crumbling and stagnant; smart residents can't flee fast enough. If University of Mississippi was suddenly in the top 30 college, would you all try to convince yourself it's great? That's basically Michigan right now. It's ranked highly because of it's legacy reputation and name rec (sports), not because it's a unique and special undergraduate setting.

You've posted this critique a number of times, and it really doesn't seem relevant to students picking U of M. OOS students don't have any real desire to live in Michigan anyway, and never really have (I attended U of M as an undergraduate in the '90's, when Michigan was doing well, but I none of my OOS friends ever intended to live there after graduation). So, the fact that Detroit is a dump is meaningless to them. And Ann Arbor is a perfectly nice college town that has everything college students are looking for during their 4 years there.

I mean, there are plenty of good or great schools in far worse places where students can't really venture off campus (I'm looking at you, Yale and U. Of Pennsylvania), that don't have any trouble attracting students.

You’re wasting your time trying to reason with this person. He/she/it will just continue to post the same statements ad naseum. Better to ignore and hopefully it will come to an end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's just nothing unique at University of Michigan that is not available at a college in a state with better climate and lots of growth. It's a really overcrowded public university growing fast to cash in. It's located in a boring flyover country town in the middle of nowhere. It has the worst weather of any university in the top 50 (it will be in the 20s and 30s until April). And the state is crumbling and stagnant; smart residents can't flee fast enough. If University of Mississippi was suddenly in the top 30 college, would you all try to convince yourself it's great? That's basically Michigan right now. It's ranked highly because of it's legacy reputation and name rec (sports), not because it's a unique and special undergraduate setting.

You've posted this critique a number of times, and it really doesn't seem relevant to students picking U of M. OOS students don't have any real desire to live in Michigan anyway, and never really have (I attended U of M as an undergraduate in the '90's, when Michigan was doing well, but I none of my OOS friends ever intended to live there after graduation). So, the fact that Detroit is a dump is meaningless to them. And Ann Arbor is a perfectly nice college town that has everything college students are looking for during their 4 years there.

I mean, there are plenty of good or great schools in far worse places where students can't really venture off campus (I'm looking at you, Yale and U. Of Pennsylvania), that don't have any trouble attracting students.

You’re wasting your time trying to reason with this person. He/she/it will just continue to post the same statements ad naseum. Better to ignore and hopefully it will come to an end.

I'm kind of sympathetic to kids who, when given the choice of two otherwise equal schools, might pick the one that's located in a more pleasant climate. I could see picking UVa over U Of M in that regard. But, honestly, once you're talking about large schools located in a college town, the entertainment and social opportunities in Ann Arbor, Charlottesville, Gainesville, South Bend, Urbana-Champaign etc. are all pretty much the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's just nothing unique at University of Michigan that is not available at a college in a state with better climate and lots of growth. It's a really overcrowded public university growing fast to cash in. It's located in a boring flyover country town in the middle of nowhere. It has the worst weather of any university in the top 50 (it will be in the 20s and 30s until April). And the state is crumbling and stagnant; smart residents can't flee fast enough. If University of Mississippi was suddenly in the top 30 college, would you all try to convince yourself it's great? That's basically Michigan right now. It's ranked highly because of it's legacy reputation and name rec (sports), not because it's a unique and special undergraduate setting.

You've posted this critique a number of times, and it really doesn't seem relevant to students picking U of M. OOS students don't have any real desire to live in Michigan anyway, and never really have (I attended U of M as an undergraduate in the '90's, when Michigan was doing well, but I none of my OOS friends ever intended to live there after graduation). So, the fact that Detroit is a dump is meaningless to them. And Ann Arbor is a perfectly nice college town that has everything college students are looking for during their 4 years there.

I mean, there are plenty of good or great schools in far worse places where students can't really venture off campus (I'm looking at you, Yale and U. Of Pennsylvania), that don't have any trouble attracting students.

You’re wasting your time trying to reason with this person. He/she/it will just continue to post the same statements ad naseum. Better to ignore and hopefully it will come to an end.

I'm kind of sympathetic to kids who, when given the choice of two otherwise equal schools, might pick the one that's located in a more pleasant climate. I could see picking UVa over U Of M in that regard. But, honestly, once you're talking about large schools located in a college town, the entertainment and social opportunities in Ann Arbor, Charlottesville, Gainesville, South Bend, Urbana-Champaign etc. are all pretty much the same.

You’ve obviously have never been to South Bend.