Does University of Michigan live up to the hype?

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At $17.3 billion, the University of Michigan has the 7th largest endowment in the nation.

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There's just nothing unique at University of Michigan that is not available at a college in a state with better climate and lots of growth. It's a really overcrowded public university growing fast to cash in. It's located in a boring flyover country town in the middle of nowhere. It has the worst weather of any university in the top 50 (it will be in the 20s and 30s until April). And the state is crumbling and stagnant; smart residents can't flee fast enough. If University of Mississippi was suddenly in the top 30 college, would you all try to convince yourself it's great? That's basically Michigan right now. It's ranked highly because of it's legacy reputation and name rec (sports), not because it's a unique and special undergraduate setting.

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Anonymous wrote:At $17.3 billion, the University of Michigan has the 7th largest endowment in the nation.

But with its overcrowded nearly 60,000 students, it is not even top 100 in endowment per student. But congrats to whatever connected bankers get to "manage" that loot.

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Anonymous wrote:Great safety if you get rejected from Boston College, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Vanderbilt and USC.

I’d add NYU, Villanova and Tufts and I’d mull adding Miami (FL) to the list. In the real world, Michigan is competing against George Washington and Wisconsin.

Random list of comparison colleges. No one who wants true city life like at NYU or GW is applying to Michigan. Of course Wisco is a peer and I guess I could see students being interested in Villanova and Michigan but there are a lot of obvious differences. Miami shares some overlap characteristics with Michigan minus the obvious - weather. Michigan is stronger academically than most of these, too. Tufts is very strong academically but is another planet to Michigan in terms of vibe.

Correction. Michigan is stronger academically than all of those…..

Michigan is higher ranked than all of those, but I disagree that means it is stronger academically. I honestly don’t know.

Michigan may have more “renowned” profs - but how much interaction are the undergrad students getting with those profs?

And does “renowned profs” even mean - they may have more ivy leagued educated profs or those who are more published, but does that makes them better teachers to undergrads?

Based on size alone, there is no way that the Michigan student body taken as a whole is more accomplished than those at Haverford, Tufts, etc. Also at my
kids’ hs, it is harder to get into Haverford and Tufts than Michigan.

And I’m not saying this makes Haverford or whatever better than Michigan. But the appeal of Michigan to an undergrad (and there is much to appeal!) usually isn’t rooted in its academic rigor surpassing these other colleges, unless a student is hung up on the ranking game.

My Michigan student chose it over Tufts and other mid-sized urban/suburban universities.

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Anonymous wrote:There's just nothing unique at University of Michigan that is not available at a college in a state with better climate and lots of growth. It's a really overcrowded public university growing fast to cash in. It's located in a boring flyover country town in the middle of nowhere. It has the worst weather of any university in the top 50 (it will be in the 20s and 30s until April). And the state is crumbling and stagnant; smart residents can't flee fast enough. If University of Mississippi was suddenly in the top 30 college, would you all try to convince yourself it's great? That's basically Michigan right now. It's ranked highly because of it's legacy reputation and name rec (sports), not because it's a unique and special undergraduate setting.

You clearly have never been to Ann Arbor, nor Detroit in the past 15-20 years, based on your descriptions.

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Anonymous wrote:There's just nothing unique at University of Michigan that is not available at a college in a state with better climate and lots of growth. It's a really overcrowded public university growing fast to cash in. It's located in a boring flyover country town in the middle of nowhere. It has the worst weather of any university in the top 50 (it will be in the 20s and 30s until April). And the state is crumbling and stagnant; smart residents can't flee fast enough. If University of Mississippi was suddenly in the top 30 college, would you all try to convince yourself it's great? That's basically Michigan right now. It's ranked highly because of it's legacy reputation and name rec (sports), not because it's a unique and special undergraduate setting.

Except the University of Mississippi is in Mississippi. If you think that isn't a crumbling, poor state, I don't know what to tell you.

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Anonymous wrote:At $17.3 billion, the University of Michigan has the 7th largest endowment in the nation.

But with its overcrowded nearly 60,000 students, it is not even top 100 in endowment per student. But congrats to whatever connected bankers get to "manage" that loot.

While not say it has nearly 100,000 students? Let’s make it a million while we’re at it. You’re full of false facts and postings.

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Anonymous wrote:There's just nothing unique at University of Michigan that is not available at a college in a state with better climate and lots of growth. It's a really overcrowded public university growing fast to cash in. It's located in a boring flyover country town in the middle of nowhere. It has the worst weather of any university in the top 50 (it will be in the 20s and 30s until April). And the state is crumbling and stagnant; smart residents can't flee fast enough. If University of Mississippi was suddenly in the top 30 college, would you all try to convince yourself it's great? That's basically Michigan right now. It's ranked highly because of it's legacy reputation and name rec (sports), not because it's a unique and special undergraduate setting.

You clearly have never been to Ann Arbor, nor Detroit in the past 15-20 years, based on your descriptions.

Both are dumps. And if you disagree it’s only denial and an inferiority complex because you live there.

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Anonymous wrote:Great safety if you get rejected from Boston College, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Vanderbilt and USC.

I’d add NYU, Villanova and Tufts and I’d mull adding Miami (FL) to the list. In the real world, Michigan is competing against George Washington and Wisconsin.

Random list of comparison colleges. No one who wants true city life like at NYU or GW is applying to Michigan. Of course Wisco is a peer and I guess I could see students being interested in Villanova and Michigan but there are a lot of obvious differences. Miami shares some overlap characteristics with Michigan minus the obvious - weather. Michigan is stronger academically than most of these, too. Tufts is very strong academically but is another planet to Michigan in terms of vibe.

Correction. Michigan is stronger academically than all of those…..

Michigan is higher ranked than all of those, but I disagree that means it is stronger academically. I honestly don’t know.

Michigan may have more “renowned” profs - but how much interaction are the undergrad students getting with those profs?

And does “renowned profs” even mean - they may have more ivy leagued educated profs or those who are more published, but does that makes them better teachers to undergrads?

Based on size alone, there is no way that the Michigan student body taken as a whole is more accomplished than those at Haverford, Tufts, etc. Also at my
kids’ hs, it is harder to get into Haverford and Tufts than Michigan.

And I’m not saying this makes Haverford or whatever better than Michigan. But the appeal of Michigan to an undergrad (and there is much to appeal!) usually isn’t rooted in its academic rigor surpassing these other colleges, unless a student is hung up on the ranking game.

My Michigan student chose it over Tufts and other mid-sized urban/suburban universities.

Not unusual at all.

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Anonymous wrote:There's just nothing unique at University of Michigan that is not available at a college in a state with better climate and lots of growth. It's a really overcrowded public university growing fast to cash in. It's located in a boring flyover country town in the middle of nowhere. It has the worst weather of any university in the top 50 (it will be in the 20s and 30s until April). And the state is crumbling and stagnant; smart residents can't flee fast enough. If University of Mississippi was suddenly in the top 30 college, would you all try to convince yourself it's great? That's basically Michigan right now. It's ranked highly because of it's legacy reputation and name rec (sports), not because it's a unique and special undergraduate setting.

You clearly have never been to Ann Arbor, nor Detroit in the past 15-20 years, based on your descriptions.

This is the same hater that starts and constantly posts the same misinformation over and over again. Best just to ignore it.

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Anonymous wrote:There's just nothing unique at University of Michigan that is not available at a college in a state with better climate and lots of growth. It's a really overcrowded public university growing fast to cash in. It's located in a boring flyover country town in the middle of nowhere. It has the worst weather of any university in the top 50 (it will be in the 20s and 30s until April). And the state is crumbling and stagnant; smart residents can't flee fast enough. If University of Mississippi was suddenly in the top 30 college, would you all try to convince yourself it's great? That's basically Michigan right now. It's ranked highly because of it's legacy reputation and name rec (sports), not because it's a unique and special undergraduate setting.

Except the University of Mississippi is in Mississippi. If you think that isn't a crumbling, poor state, I don't know what to tell you.

You’ve never been to Mississippi, so how do you know? REPUTATION. Just like Michigan has a reputation for being a backwater has-been state that’s been irrelevant for decades. The college is fine it just doesn’t offer anything so unique that it’s worth putting up with that weather and geography.

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Anonymous wrote:There's just nothing unique at University of Michigan that is not available at a college in a state with better climate and lots of growth. It's a really overcrowded public university growing fast to cash in. It's located in a boring flyover country town in the middle of nowhere. It has the worst weather of any university in the top 50 (it will be in the 20s and 30s until April). And the state is crumbling and stagnant; smart residents can't flee fast enough. If University of Mississippi was suddenly in the top 30 college, would you all try to convince yourself it's great? That's basically Michigan right now. It's ranked highly because of it's legacy reputation and name rec (sports), not because it's a unique and special undergraduate setting.

You clearly have never been to Ann Arbor, nor Detroit in the past 15-20 years, based on your descriptions.

Both are dumps. And if you disagree it’s only denial and an inferiority complex because you live there.

Disagreeing with someone is a sign of an inferiority complex? Once again, please seek professional help and stop posting nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:Great safety if you get rejected from Boston College, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Vanderbilt and USC.

I’d add NYU, Villanova and Tufts and I’d mull adding Miami (FL) to the list. In the real world, Michigan is competing against George Washington and Wisconsin.

Random list of comparison colleges. No one who wants true city life like at NYU or GW is applying to Michigan. Of course Wisco is a peer and I guess I could see students being interested in Villanova and Michigan but there are a lot of obvious differences. Miami shares some overlap characteristics with Michigan minus the obvious - weather. Michigan is stronger academically than most of these, too. Tufts is very strong academically but is another planet to Michigan in terms of vibe.

Correction. Michigan is stronger academically than all of those…..

Michigan is higher ranked than all of those, but I disagree that means it is stronger academically. I honestly don’t know.

Michigan may have more “renowned” profs - but how much interaction are the undergrad students getting with those profs?

And does “renowned profs” even mean - they may have more ivy leagued educated profs or those who are more published, but does that makes them better teachers to undergrads?

Based on size alone, there is no way that the Michigan student body taken as a whole is more accomplished than those at Haverford, Tufts, etc. Also at my
kids’ hs, it is harder to get into Haverford and Tufts than Michigan.

And I’m not saying this makes Haverford or whatever better than Michigan. But the appeal of Michigan to an undergrad (and there is much to appeal!) usually isn’t rooted in its academic rigor surpassing these other colleges, unless a student is hung up on the ranking game.

My Michigan student chose it over Tufts and other mid-sized urban/suburban universities.

And there are plenty of students who chose BC or Tufts over Michigan. Michigan has much to recommend and if one is seeking a big rah rab spirited school, there is no question to choose it over both of those. But is the academic environment different at them- doubtful. If anything, Michigan admits a much broader academic range of students.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great safety if you get rejected from Boston College, Wake Forest, Georgetown, Vanderbilt and USC.

I’d add NYU, Villanova and Tufts and I’d mull adding Miami (FL) to the list. In the real world, Michigan is competing against George Washington and Wisconsin.

Random list of comparison colleges. No one who wants true city life like at NYU or GW is applying to Michigan. Of course Wisco is a peer and I guess I could see students being interested in Villanova and Michigan but there are a lot of obvious differences. Miami shares some overlap characteristics with Michigan minus the obvious - weather. Michigan is stronger academically than most of these, too. Tufts is very strong academically but is another planet to Michigan in terms of vibe.

Correction. Michigan is stronger academically than all of those…..

Michigan is higher ranked than all of those, but I disagree that means it is stronger academically. I honestly don’t know.

Michigan may have more “renowned” profs - but how much interaction are the undergrad students getting with those profs?

And does “renowned profs” even mean - they may have more ivy leagued educated profs or those who are more published, but does that makes them better teachers to undergrads?

Based on size alone, there is no way that the Michigan student body taken as a whole is more accomplished than those at Haverford, Tufts, etc. Also at my
kids’ hs, it is harder to get into Haverford and Tufts than Michigan.

And I’m not saying this makes Haverford or whatever better than Michigan. But the appeal of Michigan to an undergrad (and there is much to appeal!) usually isn’t rooted in its academic rigor surpassing these other colleges, unless a student is hung up on the ranking game.

My Michigan student chose it over Tufts and other mid-sized urban/suburban universities.

And there are plenty of students who chose BC or Tufts over Michigan. Michigan has much to recommend and if one is seeking a big rah rab spirited school, there is no question to choose it over both of those. But is the academic environment different at them- doubtful. If anything, Michigan admits a much broader academic range of students.

I can only go by peer assessment scoring at USNWR to determine at what level its academics are rated as opposed to other universities. Michigan regularly receives a 4.5 in this metric. That is higher than all other public universities except for Berkeley. It’s also higher than BC or Tufts and is comparable to Duke, Northwestern, Cornell and other elite schools of that caliber.

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It is funny to me how people on dcum seem to put so much stock in USNWR rankings and metrics, without understanding or critically thinking about how they are arrived at.