Is it time to have the difficult conversation about masks and MCPS?

[Anonymous]

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One breakthrough case in MCPS with no masks can cause an outbreak. You keep minimizing how serious covid is. Breakthrough cases can be just as serious. And, as time goes on there will be more breakthrough cases. So, you just stop already with your misinformation about vaccines and masking and stop putting our kids and their families health at risk.

You know what's really, really effective at reducing the likelihood of you becoming seriously ill from covid? Vaccination.

It's also very effective at reducing the likelihood of you becoming infected.

Some of us don’t want Covid. You may only care about severe I’ll ess but for some of us it is not that simple.

The good news is that delivery services are more than happy to continue having your life outsourced to them for money.

[Anonymous]

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The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

[Anonymous]

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The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

There are no long term studies regarding this so you cannot say for sure how safe it is and vaccinated positive cases aren't that rare anymore.

CDC recommends masking indoors. CDC recommends masking in schools. Everyone screams to follow science. Science recommends masking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

There are no long term studies regarding this so you cannot say for sure how safe it is and vaccinated positive cases aren't that rare anymore.

CDC recommends masking indoors. CDC recommends masking in schools. Everyone screams to follow science. Science recommends masking.

If you're going to report on CDC guidance, at least do it accurately.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

"If you are fully vaccinated, to maximize protection from the Delta variant and prevent possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

There are no long term studies regarding this so you cannot say for sure how safe it is and vaccinated positive cases aren't that rare anymore.

CDC recommends masking indoors. CDC recommends masking in schools. Everyone screams to follow science. Science recommends masking.

Breakthrough infections are even more reason to get vaccinated and boosted. COVID isn't going away. That should be clear by now- even to you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

There are no long term studies regarding this so you cannot say for sure how safe it is and vaccinated positive cases aren't that rare anymore.

CDC recommends masking indoors. CDC recommends masking in schools. Everyone screams to follow science. Science recommends masking.

Breakthrough infections are even more reason to get vaccinated and boosted. COVID isn't going away. That should be clear by now- even to you.

It was never going to go away as most people don't take COVID seriously. You can get boosted. No way I am. I did my part. I did my two and I'm done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

There are no long term studies regarding this so you cannot say for sure how safe it is and vaccinated positive cases aren't that rare anymore.

CDC recommends masking indoors. CDC recommends masking in schools. Everyone screams to follow science. Science recommends masking.

If you're going to report on CDC guidance, at least do it accurately.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

"If you are fully vaccinated, to maximize protection from the Delta variant and prevent possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission."

We are high transmission and you forgot to pull out the other parts like indoor dining and schools.

[Anonymous]

For schools which is the topic here:


"Key Takeaways
Students benefit from in-person learning, and safely returning to in-person instruction in the fall 2021 is a priority.
Vaccination is the leading public health prevention strategy to end the COVID-19 pandemic. Promoting vaccination can help schools safely return to in-person learning as well as extracurricular activities and sports.
Due to the circulating and highly contagious Delta variant, CDC recommends universal indoor masking by all students (age 2 and older), staff, teachers, and visitors to K-12 schools, regardless of vaccination status.
In addition to universal indoor masking, CDC recommends schools maintain at least 3 feet of physical distance between students within classrooms to reduce transmission risk. When it is not possible to maintain a physical distance of at least 3 feet, such as when schools cannot fully re-open while maintaining these distances, it is especially important to layer multiple other prevention strategies, such as screening testing.
Screening testing, ventilation, handwashing and respiratory etiquette, staying home when sick and getting tested, contact tracing in combination with quarantine and isolation, and cleaning and disinfection are also important layers of prevention to keep schools safe.
Students, teachers, and staff should stay home when they have signs of any infectious illness and be referred to their healthcare provider for testing and care.
This guidance emphasizes implementing layered prevention strategies (e.g., using multiple prevention strategies together consistently) to protect students, teachers, staff, visitors, and other members of their households and support in-person learning.
Localities should monitor community transmission, vaccination coverage, screening testing, and occurrence of outbreaks to guide decisions on the level of layered prevention strategies (e.g., physical distancing, screening testing)."

MCPS is not doing most of these things sadly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

There are no long term studies regarding this so you cannot say for sure how safe it is and vaccinated positive cases aren't that rare anymore.

CDC recommends masking indoors. CDC recommends masking in schools. Everyone screams to follow science. Science recommends masking.

If you're going to report on CDC guidance, at least do it accurately.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

"If you are fully vaccinated, to maximize protection from the Delta variant and prevent possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission."

We are high transmission and you forgot to pull out the other parts like indoor dining and schools.

We’re on the edge between moderate and substantial, not high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

There are no long term studies regarding this so you cannot say for sure how safe it is and vaccinated positive cases aren't that rare anymore.

CDC recommends masking indoors. CDC recommends masking in schools. Everyone screams to follow science. Science recommends masking.

If you're going to report on CDC guidance, at least do it accurately.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

"If you are fully vaccinated, to maximize protection from the Delta variant and prevent possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission."

We are high transmission and you forgot to pull out the other parts like indoor dining and schools.

We’re on the edge between moderate and substantial, not high.

Its still very concerning and way higher than it needs to be. So, unmasking will cause it to get higher. Why not help get it to low?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

There are no long term studies regarding this so you cannot say for sure how safe it is and vaccinated positive cases aren't that rare anymore.

CDC recommends masking indoors. CDC recommends masking in schools. Everyone screams to follow science. Science recommends masking.

Breakthrough infections are even more reason to get vaccinated and boosted. COVID isn't going away. That should be clear by now- even to you.

It was never going to go away as most people don't take COVID seriously. You can get boosted. No way I am. I did my part. I did my two and I'm done.

Same here. Got my two shots and I’m done. No boosters for me. Y’all get keep getting shots every 6 months if that works for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

There are no long term studies regarding this so you cannot say for sure how safe it is and vaccinated positive cases aren't that rare anymore.

CDC recommends masking indoors. CDC recommends masking in schools. Everyone screams to follow science. Science recommends masking.

Breakthrough infections are even more reason to get vaccinated and boosted. COVID isn't going away. That should be clear by now- even to you.

It was never going to go away as most people don't take COVID seriously. You can get boosted. No way I am. I did my part. I did my two and I'm done.

It doesn't matter to me whether you get more shots. Early on, vaccines were important tools to slow the spread. Now that a large portion of the population is vaccinated, the vaccines are mostly to protect the recipient.

So go right ahead and skip the boosters. But don't expect to anyone to feel sorry for you when you either get sick from COVID or when you refuse to re-enter society after everyone else moves on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

There are no long term studies regarding this so you cannot say for sure how safe it is and vaccinated positive cases aren't that rare anymore.

CDC recommends masking indoors. CDC recommends masking in schools. Everyone screams to follow science. Science recommends masking.

If you're going to report on CDC guidance, at least do it accurately.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

"If you are fully vaccinated, to maximize protection from the Delta variant and prevent possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission."

We are high transmission and you forgot to pull out the other parts like indoor dining and schools.

We’re on the edge between moderate and substantial, not high.

Its still very concerning and way higher than it needs to be. So, unmasking will cause it to get higher. Why not help get it to low?

It is completely plausible that we're ready at endemic levels of spread in adult populations. And even if we're not, there's no reason to think case numbers wouldn't bounce right back to where they are when we inevitably drop masks.

But the point is case numbers don't matter. Severe cases matter, and the vaccines strongly protect against those.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

There are no long term studies regarding this so you cannot say for sure how safe it is and vaccinated positive cases aren't that rare anymore.

CDC recommends masking indoors. CDC recommends masking in schools. Everyone screams to follow science. Science recommends masking.

If you're going to report on CDC guidance, at least do it accurately.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/about-face-coverings.html

"If you are fully vaccinated, to maximize protection from the Delta variant and prevent possibly spreading it to others, wear a mask indoors in public if you are in an area of substantial or high transmission."

We are high transmission and you forgot to pull out the other parts like indoor dining and schools.

We’re on the edge between moderate and substantial, not high.

Its still very concerning and way higher than it needs to be. So, unmasking will cause it to get higher. Why not help get it to low?

It is completely plausible that we're ready at endemic levels of spread in adult populations. And even if we're not, there's no reason to think case numbers wouldn't bounce right back to where they are when we inevitably drop masks.

But the point is case numbers don't matter. Severe cases matter, and the vaccines strongly protect against those.

We don’t know who will get a severe case or not and masking has been shown to help in school. There is no distancing or other precautions and testing and quarantining is a joke. You may not care about kids health or even your kids but that is irresponsible when there is lots of information that these vaccines are just short term and many unknowns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The rare breakthrough cases can be just as serious - but generally only for the elderly and a very small handful of other immunocompromised people.

Yep. Even among old people and people with health conditions, the vaccine is very effective at reducing the chance of hospitalization or death from covid. It's just less effective among old people/people with health conditions than among younger people/people without health conditions. But that's not surprising, because old people/people with health conditions are more vulnerable to ANY health issue. Even if you're old/ill, your chances are still far better if you're vaccinated than if you're unvaccinated.

Especially if you get your booster.

There are no long term studies regarding this so you cannot say for sure how safe it is and vaccinated positive cases aren't that rare anymore.

CDC recommends masking indoors. CDC recommends masking in schools. Everyone screams to follow science. Science recommends masking.

Breakthrough infections are even more reason to get vaccinated and boosted. COVID isn't going away. That should be clear by now- even to you.

It was never going to go away as most people don't take COVID seriously. You can get boosted. No way I am. I did my part. I did my two and I'm done.

It doesn't matter to me whether you get more shots. Early on, vaccines were important tools to slow the spread. Now that a large portion of the population is vaccinated, the vaccines are mostly to protect the recipient.

So go right ahead and skip the boosters. But don't expect to anyone to feel sorry for you when you either get sick from COVID or when you refuse to re-enter society after everyone else moves on.

I cannot renter as I cannot risk Covid from you. I cannot take a booster as I reacted very poorly and had issues for months. You are so focused on your wants you stopped even understanding it’s not as simple for others as it is for you. Must be nice to have your health. Must be nice for your kids to have both parents alive.