What’s going on with the two bills?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The current recon bill cannot pass the House not to mention the Senate. That’s why Pelosi brings back the paid leave and the SALT cap talk reappears.

Paid family leave was in response to Manchin playing games after the framework was agreed upon.

SALT is tied to the prescription price negotiation provision. It's also vital for 2022. The very people who would benefit are the suburban swing voters that swung blue in 2020 and red in 2021. Dems should be touting how theyre bringing back SALT deductions. It's absolutely core and vital.

So now Democrats are lowering taxes of the wealthy?

AGAIN, not every homeowner in a high property tax state is wealthy.

Also, demonizing swing voters is not very good strategy. It's supposed to be a coalition.

[Anonymous]

Salt is a giveaway for the rich and we cannot afford it. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Infrastructure *may* pass, BBB will not.

The only thing Biden has “Built Back Better” is the Republican Party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Infrastructure *may* pass, BBB will not.

The only thing Biden has “Built Back Better” is the Republican Party.

Nah, they'll overreach and ban abortion. It'll swing right on back once those kleptocratic nutjobs forget the lesson. December is gonna be a clownshow with the budget and the debt ceiling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Salt is a giveaway for the rich and we cannot afford it. Deal with it.

We can't "afford" anything in the budget. If we can afford to pay for Texas' electrical grid repairs, broadband for rural areas, healthcare for red states, tax cuts for the ultra-rich and corporations, billion dollar overbudget weapons systems, etc etc, then we can allow the full cost of our stupid property taxes to be deducted on our income taxes. It's a small freaking demand considering how much money the suburbs spend on the urban and rural areas. Let's be blunt, a lot of people live there. The suburbs control all of our political fate at this moment in time. Where they swing the vote swings. The first party to understand and embrace that will win. That's the math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Salt is a giveaway for the rich and we cannot afford it. Deal with it.

We can and we did. It just makes it harder to pay poor people to have babies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Salt is a giveaway for the rich and we cannot afford it. Deal with it.

+1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The current recon bill cannot pass the House not to mention the Senate. That’s why Pelosi brings back the paid leave and the SALT cap talk reappears.

Paid family leave was in response to Manchin playing games after the framework was agreed upon.

SALT is tied to the prescription price negotiation provision. It's also vital for 2022. The very people who would benefit are the suburban swing voters that swung blue in 2020 and red in 2021. Dems should be touting how theyre bringing back SALT deductions. It's absolutely core and vital.

You don’t get it. The paid family leave and SALT are back because the House Dems in the battleground district got scared and won’t vote for the current bill. Obviously yesterday’s result is a wake up call for them and they won’t risk their political life by passing the recon bill, which might be popular nationwide but not necessarily in their own districts. Manchin already said no to the paid leave and the progressives hate the SALT deduction. In ohter words, Dems are back to Square one.

Do you still believe they can pass the bills this week or even by the end of the month?

I don't think they can pass them ever. But if these House Dems in battleground districts already won't vote for it, what good would putting in more programs their constituents (proxies for VA voters) don't want? Those are the same policies McAuliffe ran on extremely unsuccessfully.

I think that's right. Frankly, I don't see any meaningful legislation coming out of this Congress now.

Moderates are finally inching forward and showing some discontent. Thank you thank you

[Anonymous]

This bill is different from the actual budget bill correct?

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*sips coffee*

Yet Representative Kathleen Rice, a Democrat from Long Island, said the party should be careful about including too much in its social-welfare legislation. “I don’t understand some of my more progressive colleagues saying last night now shows us that what we need to do is get both of these bills done and shove even more progressive stuff in,” Ms. Rice said. “What we’re talking about is not resonating with voters.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/03/us/politics/democrat-losses-2022.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This bill is different from the actual budget bill correct?

Yes. Dumb progressives shuttled out the Federal Shutdown, the Debt Ceiling, Highway Legislation, Infrastructure, and the Social Welfare bill out to December.

All of this has to be taken care of in *checks watch* 7 weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:*sips coffee*

Yet Representative Kathleen Rice, a Democrat from Long Island, said the party should be careful about including too much in its social-welfare legislation. “I don’t understand some of my more progressive colleagues saying last night now shows us that what we need to do is get both of these bills done and shove even more progressive stuff in,” Ms. Rice said. “What we’re talking about is not resonating with voters.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/03/us/politics/democrat-losses-2022.html

They need to listen to this lady and the democrats at the border.

[Anonymous]

All I asked for was normalcy. Go back to Obama-Biden and do nothing else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This bill is different from the actual budget bill correct?

Yes. Dumb progressives shuttled out the Federal Shutdown, the Debt Ceiling, Highway Legislation, Infrastructure, and the Social Welfare bill out to December.

All of this has to be taken care of in *checks watch* 7 weeks.

How did you get 7 weeks? The deadline is December 3. We have freaking four weeks. Pelosi keeps saying the vote will happen anytime soon because as day passes, it gets harder and harder to pass that social spending bill.