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Anonymous
Hmmm, sounds like it will have promotion and relegation, which was supposedly the original sin of NCSL that drove the creation of CCL. |
Anonymous
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CCL has more info on their website about nextgen. They will need to get a lot of outside clubs to sign up or this isn't going to be much different than what they do now with CCL and CCL2.
CCL NEXT GEN FORMAT: Club-to-club match days 8 matches per season (16 total matches; 8 Fall and 8 Spring) Up to 6 localized league matches with 2 crossovers (or more) with other regions 8 matches per matchday; (2) 11B, (2) 12B, (2) 11G, (2) 12G $600.00/per team Clubs should also indicate on the application if interested in participating CCL Next Gen 9/10s. http://www.clubchampionsleague.com/champions/next-gen/ |
Anonymous
Ha! |
Anonymous
Where did you read anything that said there would be pro/rel for this? It's a club application. |
Anonymous
Yeah -- I wrote the part in bold, and I was just speculating on how clubs would move their C-, D- and E- teams into a CCL structure. Wasn't implying CCL would have pro/rel. I'd love to hear, though, how CCL is thinking about making these games competitive. And I say that not as a parent who should be voting with my feet. Quite the opposite. If they have a good solution, I'd love to see it. I have no idea if any of the clubs near me are considering this, but I wouldn't rule it out. |
Anonymous
| they would not move the C, D and E teams-- just the top two (like CCL operated now-- the clubs who have A and B teams in the CCL have their C, D and E teams in the NCSL or other league)...no pro/rel, though sometimes CCL will have an A team start in CCL II (like Ellicott City) |
Anonymous
We have our A and B teams in CCL and the C team in CCL2. Will this mean the D-F will also move into this league? I am confused by all of this. |
Anonymous
I imagine the next step is for CCL clubs to send something out to their membership to help them understand what this change means for their teams in the Next Gen age groups. If I had that many teams in my club, I would be asking. |
Anonymous
It likely means that the clubs that they would normally travel to at the younger ages will simply be replaced by more local clubs. This isn't that complicated. Then at U12 or U13 the A teams will simply be in CCL "Proper" as it had "always been". |
Anonymous
I feel like none of this helps. I am enticed by the process of keeping it local for younger kids, but the most benefit for the kids is the training they receive at those ages. The games/leagues are an after-thought---to practice the concepts they've learned in practice. Every year it seems to get more and more convoluted. |
Anonymous
CCL has started a turf battle against NCSL. That's the way I see it. |
Anonymous
Absolutely and if they are successful in bringing a good number of non-ccl clubs, they could extend that offer to 13U and above. That could really hit NCSL hard. |
Anonymous
The creation of the NoVa part of CCL was driven by the fact that the leadership of some of the big member clubs had had various disputes with WAGS and NCSL, and didn't want to be told what to do. Plus it gave them the ability to market themselves as elite to credulous parents. I agree that it seems like the NextGen concept is another way to stick it to NCSL. I personally would be just fine with things if CCL became the default local league that WAGS + NCSL used to be, so long as they add in a pro-rel feature at U11 or U12. That way we'd get back to having all the area teams able to compete against each other. You'd have to lose the club to club scheduling feature, but I think that's more of a bonus for TDs and coaches than it ever has been for families. CCL would have to stop pretending they are an elite league, but they wouldn't need to then, because they'd be the only major local league. |
Anonymous
Are you saying that CCL should just become the main/only league in the area with promotion/relegation with all of the clubs or just the "elite" clubs of the area. In my opinion there should only be one and the club's philosophy shouldn't be dictated by the league that they are in but by the club itself on how it thinks is the best way to develop their talent. People should pick a club by who offers the best opportunity for their kid and not by what league they play in. At the top, the true top teams would play again each other. In the middle the teams looking to improve to make it to the top, and in the bottom the teams looking to improve what they currently have and eventually getting into a higher division. |
Anonymous
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This is not CCL trying to get into NCSL's turf. CCL is Club based and NCSL is team based. All CCL is trying to do is add a couple of local clubs at the U Little levels to reduce travel for its NOVA clubs. It is not going to be a huge expansion.
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