Biden's VP?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why hasn't he announced, already? What could possibly be taking him so long?

Campaigns try to time their announcements strategically. McCain named Palin as his running mate the morning after Obama’s historic convention speech and suddenly that became old news.

Yeah, maybe McCain should have taken a couple of extra days to vet her.

Biden has admitted that he has blown his August 1 deadline but can take all the way until August 17 if needed,

It is apparent that there are issues with the front runner (Harris) and Biden is having difficulty deciding on the alternative. It is not possible to satisfy all constituencies so Biden should just go with the best governing partner who he would like to work with for the next 4-8 years. The announcement should come in the next couple of days.

Even in terms of governing partners, the women have different strengths, whether legislative or executive experience, and weaknesses in terms of electability issues. I can believe this is a very tough decision, but the wait is starting to get to me!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why hasn't he announced, already? What could possibly be taking him so long?

Campaigns try to time their announcements strategically. McCain named Palin as his running mate the morning after Obama’s historic convention speech and suddenly that became old news.

Yeah, maybe McCain should have taken a couple of extra days to vet her.

Biden has admitted that he has blown his August 1 deadline but can take all the way until August 17 if needed,

It is apparent that there are issues with the front runner (Harris) and Biden is having difficulty deciding on the alternative. It is not possible to satisfy all constituencies so Biden should just go with the best governing partner who he would like to work with for the next 4-8 years. The announcement should come in the next couple of days.

True, and late-emerging prospects like Rice and Bass probably took longer to vet given long policy/legislative/activist records.

[Anonymous]

Harris leads in the betting markets. Money is usually right.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris leads in the betting markets. Money is usually right.

She has been leading there forever. If so, then why the delay and hesitation. There is something blocking Harris - hard to say what that might be. The KHIVE is quite a nuisance and might overshadow Joe.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris leads in the betting markets. Money is usually right.

VP predictions are notoriously tricky
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/biden-vp-pick-analysis/index.html

[Anonymous]

Harris is also acting very much like the presumptive nominee from her tweets.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris leads in the betting markets. Money is usually right.

She has been leading there forever. If so, then why the delay and hesitation. There is something blocking Harris - hard to say what that might be. The KHIVE is quite a nuisance and might overshadow Joe.

I think the hesitation is over several things: 1) questions of trust (debate attack, likely oppo dumps on rivals) 2) whether she'd be a content and supportive #2 (obviously she'd be thinking about the presidency) 3) less ideal governing pick than some others (her litigation expertise potentially less useful than Rice on foreign policy, Bass on legislative side, Whitmer ready to step in with governors and pandemic response, Duckworth on military, Warren on the economy) and 4) polling negatives (polarizing--K-hive fanaticism could overshadow but also has high negatives). She's the most polished and charismatic contender, and an excellent fundraiser, but I can see major downsides from his perspective. If he wants an Obama-Biden-like partnership, she doesn't seem to be the best choice. Much easier to see that with Rice, Bass, Whitmer, or Duckworth.

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^^ also she'll be very easy to paint as an inconsistent flip flopper by the other side, whether on health care or criminal justice reform (Nytimes article yesterday offered a preview). She'll be dragged through the mud on the authenticity issue.

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My guess: Jill doesn't like her.

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Another thought?

What about the spouses? Have they been included. Pretty sure the spouses of male Veep candidates are usually part of the process.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess: Jill doesn't like her.

And Valerie, his sister.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess: Jill doesn't like her.

+1

Also, I don't mind Harris as a candidate. But I do not like her as a choice for Biden. Their chemistry is off.

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Anonymous wrote:Another thought?

What about the spouses? Have they been included. Pretty sure the spouses of male Veep candidates are usually part of the process.

Jill mentioned that at one point, says she really enjoys Kamala's husband's company, but not much info otherwise. Presumably they've known Susan Rice's husband a long time, not sure about the others. Both Tammy D's and Liz W's spouses seem low-key and nice. Bass is unmarried. I wonder if spouses came to one-on-one's, to chat with Jill.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess: Jill doesn't like her.

+1

Also, I don't mind Harris as a candidate. But I do not like her as a choice for Biden. Their chemistry is off.

+2 it's hard to see a good partnership dynamic there, agree chemistry is off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thought?

What about the spouses? Have they been included. Pretty sure the spouses of male Veep candidates are usually part of the process.

Jill mentioned that at one point, says she really enjoys Kamala's husband's company, but not much info otherwise. Presumably they've known Susan Rice's husband a long time, not sure about the others. Both Tammy D's and Liz W's spouses seem low-key and nice. Bass is unmarried. I wonder if spouses came to one-on-one's, to chat with Jill.

The spouse issue doesn't seem like it would be a dealbreaker, all seem fine.