Kavanaugh vote postponed. Judiciary Committee hearing on Sexual Assault complain Monday.

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Anonymous wrote:The lunacy is pathetic.


Agreed. Kavanaugh must wiithdraw.
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Kavanaugh accuser Ford fled Washington life -- now she's coming back
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/christine-bla...8-8792-78719177250f_story.html

Ford went as far away from here as possible.
She told no one for 30 years; the only thing worse than what happened would be others knowing -- the nightmare scenario of which is currently underway.
She became an expert in post-traumatic resilience; Thursday she will face the ultimate test.

Meanwhile Kavanaugh stayed, following the stellar path laid out for him, achieving great success in all facets of life, now sitting atop the Washington society they both grew up in -- many of us know it well.
That society, by and large, is with him. To attack him is to attack them, and the lives they lead.

Amazing Washington story.
Sad for all involved.


Welcome to America's caste system.


Did you see the press conference of 75 female Kavanaugh supporters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATNAUt-Uefo




So that’s what suburban white women who support an establishment Republican look like. I always wondered about that.


Perhaps you should get out of your bubble then.
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Anonymous wrote:All of my facts are correct. we differ what those facts mean in determining Dr. Ford's mental state.

1. She [...] her.


Does anyone else get the idea that Mrs. Kavanaugh and her friends are some busy bees on these threads?


Because we bring evidence to contradict assertions people are making here?

Has it occurred to you that some people here want to safeguard the seriousness with which women's assault allegations are taken and feel that is undermined by high profile allegations as flimsy as Ford's?

Agree. I am appalled by these liberals who say we should believe her, regardless of any evidence, because women should be believed....because....well....

I bet these same women would sing a different tune if their husbands were accused.


And I bet YOU would sing a different tune if you or your daughter had been assaulted and no one believed you.


DP. If my daughter had been assaulted, I would counsel her to make a report IMMEDIATELY. Not to, you know, wait 35+ years and then expect to be believed.


Yes, great mother you are, if your daughter was so tramatized and begged you not to force her to make a report you'd force her to. Good going.

And when her accuser says no he didn't do it and no one believes your daughter, glad to know that you'd still be on the side of men who are publicly called out for their assaults.

I'd bet you'd have been one of the high school students who didn't stick up for this girl. I feel sorry for your daughter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/amber-wyatt-told-her-story-of-rape-this-is-how-the-world-responded/2018/09/21/ff11300a-bdda-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.130d8da2989b



Maybe feel sorry for your daughter who has a mother who encourages her weakness.


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Democrats talk a big game about “empowering” women when the reality is, they simply want them to remain victims. Reporting is just too traumatic! Vomit.


Context is important. In the 1980's as a teen, you just didn't report these sort of things, particularly when the accused's mother was the local prosecutor. Today, in the context of metoo and the conversations taking place between parents and their daughters all across the country, future victims hopefully will feel empowered.


Sure, perhaps a teenager (especially one who wasn't raped) at that time wouldn't have reported. But certainly, there is no reason she wouldn't have reported it as she grew older, went to college, started working, etc. Especially if it affected her life as much as she says it has. Thirty-six years later is too late.
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Ronan Farrow:
A new allegation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh surfaces, this time from his years at Yale. The latest from me and @JaneMayerNYer: https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senate-democrats-investigate-a-new-allegation-of-sexual-misconduct-from-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaughs-college-years-deborah-ramirez
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Anonymous wrote:All of my facts are correct. we differ what those facts mean in determining Dr. Ford's mental state.

1. She [...] her.


Does anyone else get the idea that Mrs. Kavanaugh and her friends are some busy bees on these threads?


Because we bring evidence to contradict assertions people are making here?

Has it occurred to you that some people here want to safeguard the seriousness with which women's assault allegations are taken and feel that is undermined by high profile allegations as flimsy as Ford's?

Agree. I am appalled by these liberals who say we should believe her, regardless of any evidence, because women should be believed....because....well....

I bet these same women would sing a different tune if their husbands were accused.


And I bet YOU would sing a different tune if you or your daughter had been assaulted and no one believed you.


DP. If my daughter had been assaulted, I would counsel her to make a report IMMEDIATELY. Not to, you know, wait 35+ years and then expect to be believed.


Yes, great mother you are, if your daughter was so tramatized and begged you not to force her to make a report you'd force her to. Good going.

And when her accuser says no he didn't do it and no one believes your daughter, glad to know that you'd still be on the side of men who are publicly called out for their assaults.

I'd bet you'd have been one of the high school students who didn't stick up for this girl. I feel sorry for your daughter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/amber-wyatt-told-her-story-of-rape-this-is-how-the-world-responded/2018/09/21/ff11300a-bdda-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.130d8da2989b



Maybe feel sorry for your daughter who has a mother who encourages her weakness.


+1,000
Democrats talk a big game about “empowering” women when the reality is, they simply want them to remain victims. Reporting is just too traumatic! Vomit.


Context is important. In the 1980's as a teen, you just didn't report these sort of things, particularly when the accused's mother was the local prosecutor. Today, in the context of metoo and the conversations taking place between parents and their daughters all across the country, future victims hopefully will feel empowered.


Sure, perhaps a teenager (especially one who wasn't raped) at that time wouldn't have reported. But certainly, there is no reason she wouldn't have reported it as she grew older, went to college, started working, etc. Especially if it affected her life as much as she says it has. Thirty-six years later is too late.


Says who? She stepped up for her country.
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Stop the ride. I want to get off.
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Do we really believe Avenatti? I hope these people know what they are doing and not just bringing forth women jumping on the bandwagon.
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Anonymous wrote:All of my facts are correct. we differ what those facts mean in determining Dr. Ford's mental state.

1. She [...] her.


Does anyone else get the idea that Mrs. Kavanaugh and her friends are some busy bees on these threads?


Because we bring evidence to contradict assertions people are making here?

Has it occurred to you that some people here want to safeguard the seriousness with which women's assault allegations are taken and feel that is undermined by high profile allegations as flimsy as Ford's?

Agree. I am appalled by these liberals who say we should believe her, regardless of any evidence, because women should be believed....because....well....

I bet these same women would sing a different tune if their husbands were accused.


And I bet YOU would sing a different tune if you or your daughter had been assaulted and no one believed you.


DP. If my daughter had been assaulted, I would counsel her to make a report IMMEDIATELY. Not to, you know, wait 35+ years and then expect to be believed.


Yes, great mother you are, if your daughter was so tramatized and begged you not to force her to make a report you'd force her to. Good going.

And when her accuser says no he didn't do it and no one believes your daughter, glad to know that you'd still be on the side of men who are publicly called out for their assaults.

I'd bet you'd have been one of the high school students who didn't stick up for this girl. I feel sorry for your daughter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/amber-wyatt-told-her-story-of-rape-this-is-how-the-world-responded/2018/09/21/ff11300a-bdda-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.130d8da2989b



Maybe feel sorry for your daughter who has a mother who encourages her weakness.


+1,000
Democrats talk a big game about “empowering” women when the reality is, they simply want them to remain victims. Reporting is just too traumatic! Vomit.


Yes, we already know that you GOPers have no empathy for women and judge them harshly when they don't do what you think is appropriate.


Not a "GOPer." But yes, I do judge people (of any gender, dolt) who refuse to report an assault and then decide to do so, 35 years later.
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From the New Yorker:

After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away
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Underwhelming. Exposing yourself while drinking actually is standard college fare, unlike attempted rape.
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Anonymous wrote:Wow I went to Drudge to see what the above references and it says Ronan Farrow May have a scoop on a second Kavanaugh accuser. Wow...he’s toast if that’s true. Please let that come out before Dr. Ford is traumatized at the Republican abusive hearing.


Michael Avenatti has been teasing more Kavanaugh stuff on twitter since last night and just posted

I do not bluff. I deliver.


Mayer/Farrow + Avenatti = Kavanaugh withdraws by Tuesday


Yup. Next nominee up.
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He is done. Told you so, over and over.
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Farrow's accuser is not Avenatti's accuser.
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1044013350873489409
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