Kavanaugh vote postponed. Judiciary Committee hearing on Sexual Assault complain Monday.

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Anonymous wrote:From the New Yorker:

After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away

She remembers Kavanaugh standing to her right and laughing, pulling up his pants. “Brett was laughing,” she said. “I can still see his face, and his hips coming forward, like when you pull up your pants.” She recalled another male student shouting about the incident. “Somebody yelled down the hall, ‘Brett Kavanaugh just put his penis in Debbie’s face,’

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Boys will be boys.

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Anonymous wrote:Underwhelming. Exposing yourself while drinking actually is standard college fare, unlike attempted rape.

Where the hell did you go to college?

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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh has saved his calendars from high school. Can they not confirm him merely because this is really weird that he's saved them?

Kavanaugh has calendars from summer 1982 that he plans to give the Senate that don't show a party that matches Blasey Ford's description, according to someone working for his confirmation. Calendars can't prove it didn't happen but his team will argue there is no corroboration.

The calendars show he was out of town much of the summer at the beach or with his parents and they detail basketball games, movie outings, football workouts and so forth. A few parties are mentioned but include names of people other than those identified by Blasey Ford.

https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1043949923388076032

I don’t find this highly unusual. My DH has his calendars from way, way back. There are some people who just keep stuff like that. My DH keeps a lot of other stuff, too, but that is a different story. Fortunately, we have a lot of storage area. Or, maybe, unfortunately.

I dunno. This does seem bizarre to me.

I’ll bet you are a millennial. Nothing derogatory about that - it is just that millennials are not generally “collectors” like generations before. My kids are millennials. They don’t care about “stuff.” Wish my DH felt the same way.

I’m not a millennial. But younger than Brett Kavanaugh; I still find it utterly bizarre that days after the Shaggy defense, the Ex Whelen Discovers Zillow escapade, and Grassley’s assistant getting axed for sex misconduct, the newest stratagem are a series of calendars...kept by a high school senior documenting his summer...and how that is supppsed to provide a complete overview of when he may have partied to the point of a drunken sex assault.

DP. So then you're taking the word of someone in her 50s who is describing an incident she alleges happened when she was 15, yet she doesn't remember exactly what year or where it occurred. But when presented with actual documentation in the way of calendars from those years, you dismiss it as "a high school senior documenting his summer." Sounds like he has a lot more details about his summer than she does. And, what do you know - his are actually written down.

SMH.

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GOP tried to get a quick vote on Monday. Votes not there. Grassley’s WEIRD tweet storm on Friday read like a hostage victim. Next: Kavanaugh probably toast on Tiesday.

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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh has saved his calendars from high school. Can they not confirm him merely because this is really weird that he's saved them?

Kavanaugh has calendars from summer 1982 that he plans to give the Senate that don't show a party that matches Blasey Ford's description, according to someone working for his confirmation. Calendars can't prove it didn't happen but his team will argue there is no corroboration.

The calendars show he was out of town much of the summer at the beach or with his parents and they detail basketball games, movie outings, football workouts and so forth. A few parties are mentioned but include names of people other than those identified by Blasey Ford.

https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1043949923388076032

I don’t find this highly unusual. My DH has his calendars from way, way back. There are some people who just keep stuff like that. My DH keeps a lot of other stuff, too, but that is a different story. Fortunately, we have a lot of storage area. Or, maybe, unfortunately.

I dunno. This does seem bizarre to me.

I’ll bet you are a millennial. Nothing derogatory about that - it is just that millennials are not generally “collectors” like generations before. My kids are millennials. They don’t care about “stuff.” Wish my DH felt the same way.

I’m not a millennial. But younger than Brett Kavanaugh; I still find it utterly bizarre that days after the Shaggy defense, the Ex Whelen Discovers Zillow escapade, and Grassley’s assistant getting axed for sex misconduct, the newest stratagem are a series of calendars...kept by a high school senior documenting his summer...and how that is supppsed to provide a complete overview of when he may have partied to the point of a drunken sex assault.

Sorry. Your message is undecipherable in an attempt to be witty or clever. Utter fail.

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Word salad that makes zero sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Underwhelming. Exposing yourself while drinking actually is standard college fare, unlike attempted rape.

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Anonymous wrote:From the New Yorker:

After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away

She remembers Kavanaugh standing to her right and laughing, pulling up his pants. “Brett was laughing,” she said. “I can still see his face, and his hips coming forward, like when you pull up your pants.” She recalled another male student shouting about the incident. “Somebody yelled down the hall, ‘Brett Kavanaugh just put his penis in Debbie’s face,’

A classmate of Ramirez’s, who declined to be identified because of the partisan battle over Kavanaugh’s nomination, said that another student told him about the incident either on the night of the party or in the next day or two. The classmate said that he is “one hundred per cent sure” that he was told at the time that Kavanaugh was the student who exposed himself to Ramirez. He independently recalled many of the same details offered by Ramirez, including that a male student had encouraged Kavanaugh as he exposed himself. The classmate, like Ramirez, recalled that the party took place in a common room on the first floor in Entryway B of Lawrance Hall, during their freshman year. “I’ve known this all along,” he said. “It’s been on my mind all these years when his name came up. It was a big deal.”

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Anonymous wrote:Underwhelming. Exposing yourself while drinking actually is standard college fare, unlike attempted rape.

Hi Brett!

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Anonymous wrote:Boys will be boys.

Speak for yourself, Troll.

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All that stuff about DKE and TNC, plus this story (in the common room!). SMH

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I mean some people corroborated pieces of the story in a contemporaneous manner.

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Anonymous wrote:All of my facts are correct. we differ what those facts mean in determining Dr. Ford's mental state.

1. She [...] her.

Does anyone else get the idea that Mrs. Kavanaugh and her friends are some busy bees on these threads?

Because we bring evidence to contradict assertions people are making here?

Has it occurred to you that some people here want to safeguard the seriousness with which women's assault allegations are taken and feel that is undermined by high profile allegations as flimsy as Ford's?

Agree. I am appalled by these liberals who say we should believe her, regardless of any evidence, because women should be believed....because....well....

I bet these same women would sing a different tune if their husbands were accused.

And I bet YOU would sing a different tune if you or your daughter had been assaulted and no one believed you.

DP. If my daughter had been assaulted, I would counsel her to make a report IMMEDIATELY. Not to, you know, wait 35+ years and then expect to be believed.

Yes, great mother you are, if your daughter was so tramatized and begged you not to force her to make a report you'd force her to. Good going.

And when her accuser says no he didn't do it and no one believes your daughter, glad to know that you'd still be on the side of men who are publicly called out for their assaults.

I'd bet you'd have been one of the high school students who didn't stick up for this girl. I feel sorry for your daughter.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/amber-wyatt-told-her-story-of-rape-this-is-how-the-world-responded/2018/09/21/ff11300a-bdda-11e8-8792-78719177250f_story.html?utm_term=.130d8da2989b

Maybe feel sorry for your daughter who has a mother who encourages her weakness.

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Democrats talk a big game about “empowering” women when the reality is, they simply want them to remain victims. Reporting is just too traumatic! Vomit.

Yes, we already know that you GOPers have no empathy for women and judge them harshly when they don't do what you think is appropriate.

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Nothing that a victim chooses to do is good enough for GOPers and the words of victims is meaningless.

I started a separate thread about women who do tell and nothing happens to their accuser, even with a guilty plea, and that this total lack of taking sexual assault seriously leads to women not reporting. So far it has basically been crickets from GOPers.

And I responded earlier on this thread that nothing we suggest is good enough for you. If we urge our daughters to report assault *immediately,* then one idiot poster suggested that would be "forcing a traumatized girl" to speak out. If we coddle them and protect them from having to testify, then we're simply perpetuating the victim mentality. Seems liberals definitely prefer the latter approach. And that's the approach that has caused so many to not take allegations seriously. Waiting decades to report is doing no one any favors. But sure, you keep pushing that tactic. It's been working so well for all women.

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Anonymous wrote:Underwhelming. Exposing yourself while drinking actually is standard college fare, unlike attempted rape.

Where the hell did you go to college?

University of Iowa, c/o 2008. I'm surprised anyone is surprised?