Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

[Anonymous]

Blake will need to have get the other girl who complained to speak.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd - they are trying to pretend this is a normal workplace setting where touching is off limits and not a romcom set! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/blake-lively-breaks-silence-on-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us-footage/

"No woman should have to take defensive measures to avoid being touched by their employer without their consent." The whole longer statement context just makes it even more clearly out of touch with reality.

I know you'll all yell at me but I agree with what they are saying here. I do think the video shows pretty much what she described in her complaint. I don't see anything in this scene that disproves her complaint or catches her in a lie.

I think the damning thing is that the intimacy coordinator wasn't on set for the scene when he was improvising this stuff. Yes it's a romance and the movie has sex and intimacy. But that's what the IC is for, they could have avoided problems by just including her. I also think that having her on set might have resolves some of the difficulty of Baldoni directing these scenes while also being in them.

You said you were leaving several pages ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe he thinks she’s a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Maybe he’s a crappy director. Maybe she had already exhibited diva behavior. Maybe the studio said to let her get her way. Maybe they were worried she’d walk. Maybe he’s a people pleaser. Maybe he likes being more more collaborative than dictatorial. Who cares. Did he harass her here? No. Did the events transpire as she reported? No.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m genuinely surprised she’s not getting better advice given all the resources she and her husband have access to. They need to stop putting out these statements that paint her as a junior analyst just out of college type victim. They don’t understand that metoo rhetoric works when there is a power imbalance, and that absent that, you need damning evidence. He is an idiot yes, but he doesn’t have the reputation of woody Allen or Johnny depp. All her incompetent team is doing is feeding more fuel to the social media fire around this story.

+1 this is not Harvey Weinstein with things happening behind closed doors. Whatever conduct is alleged was on set and in groups and out in the open for all to see. In light of the power disparity, it's hard to imagine he would suddenly be harassing an A-list co-star and she's not providing much basis to say he did.

+2. Agree with all above and, as mentioned earlier, I think it's worth noting that the actress who played "young Lily" and who also had intimate scenes, was singing his praises in texts about how great he was to work with and what an amazing set he maintained. It's possible JB decided to target BL and no one else had a problem with him, but that would be an unusual (to say the least) behavioral pattern for a harasser/abuser. "Aiming up" isn't generally their thing for many, many reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe he thinks she’s a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Maybe he’s a crappy director. Maybe she had already exhibited diva behavior. Maybe the studio said to let her get her way. Maybe they were worried she’d walk. Maybe he’s a people pleaser. Maybe he likes being more more collaborative than dictatorial. Who cares. Did he harass her here? No. Did the events transpire as she reported? No.

This.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m genuinely surprised she’s not getting better advice given all the resources she and her husband have access to. They need to stop putting out these statements that paint her as a junior analyst just out of college type victim. They don’t understand that metoo rhetoric works when there is a power imbalance, and that absent that, you need damning evidence. He is an idiot yes, but he doesn’t have the reputation of woody Allen or Johnny depp. All her incompetent team is doing is feeding more fuel to the social media fire around this story.

+1 this is not Harvey Weinstein with things happening behind closed doors. Whatever conduct is alleged was on set and in groups and out in the open for all to see. In light of the power disparity, it's hard to imagine he would suddenly be harassing an A-list co-star and she's not providing much basis to say he did.

+2. Agree with all above and, as mentioned earlier, I think it's worth noting that the actress who played "young Lily" and who also had intimate scenes, was singing his praises in texts about how great he was to work with and what an amazing set he maintained. It's possible JB decided to target BL and no one else had a problem with him, but that would be an unusual (to say the least) behavioral pattern for a harasser/abuser. "Aiming up" isn't generally their thing for many, many reasons.

Yes! You are capturing why I found their "abuser playbook" statement so off the mark. Because this isn't classic, it's actually a very unusual fact pattern.

[Anonymous]

How do you guys think this will conclude? Like where will their careers go from here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd - they are trying to pretend this is a normal workplace setting where touching is off limits and not a romcom set! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/blake-lively-breaks-silence-on-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us-footage/

"No woman should have to take defensive measures to avoid being touched by their employer without their consent." The whole longer statement context just makes it even more clearly out of touch with reality.

I know you'll all yell at me but I agree with what they are saying here. I do think the video shows pretty much what she described in her complaint. I don't see anything in this scene that disproves her complaint or catches her in a lie.

I think the damning thing is that the intimacy coordinator wasn't on set for the scene when he was improvising this stuff. Yes it's a romance and the movie has sex and intimacy. But that's what the IC is for, they could have avoided problems by just including her. I also think that having her on set might have resolves some of the difficulty of Baldoni directing these scenes while also being in them.

You said you were leaving several pages ago.

That wasn't me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd - they are trying to pretend this is a normal workplace setting where touching is off limits and not a romcom set! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/blake-lively-breaks-silence-on-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us-footage/

"No woman should have to take defensive measures to avoid being touched by their employer without their consent." The whole longer statement context just makes it even more clearly out of touch with reality.

I know you'll all yell at me but I agree with what they are saying here. I do think the video shows pretty much what she described in her complaint. I don't see anything in this scene that disproves her complaint or catches her in a lie.

I think the damning thing is that the intimacy coordinator wasn't on set for the scene when he was improvising this stuff. Yes it's a romance and the movie has sex and intimacy. But that's what the IC is for, they could have avoided problems by just including her. I also think that having her on set might have resolves some of the difficulty of Baldoni directing these scenes while also being in them.

You said you were leaving several pages ago.

That wasn't me.

Should we ask Jeff?

[Anonymous]

I saw a comment elsewhere— if baldoni sexually harassed Blake, why would Ryan Reynolds berate baldoni for fat shaming her and not for harassing her?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd - they are trying to pretend this is a normal workplace setting where touching is off limits and not a romcom set! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/blake-lively-breaks-silence-on-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us-footage/

"No woman should have to take defensive measures to avoid being touched by their employer without their consent." The whole longer statement context just makes it even more clearly out of touch with reality.

I know you'll all yell at me but I agree with what they are saying here. I do think the video shows pretty much what she described in her complaint. I don't see anything in this scene that disproves her complaint or catches her in a lie.

I think the damning thing is that the intimacy coordinator wasn't on set for the scene when he was improvising this stuff. Yes it's a romance and the movie has sex and intimacy. But that's what the IC is for, they could have avoided problems by just including her. I also think that having her on set might have resolves some of the difficulty of Baldoni directing these scenes while also being in them.

You said you were leaving several pages ago.

That wasn't me.

Should we ask Jeff?

Let it go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, so I’d have to go back and reread, but in his complaint he was saying that he was repeatedly being told to try to get BL to stop talking so they could get the shots they needed. So she’s talking away and he’s like, “my wife and I just sometimes stare into each others eyes for hours.” It’s kind of funny actually.

Yeah I'm with Blake on that -- it's an insane thing to say. Who just sits around staring into their partner's eyes? Are they on drugs when they do that?

He was being very respectful while trying to get the shot. She seemed uncomfortable trying to have a romantic vibe with an actor that she is not romantic with in real life. I can't tell whether she's uncomfortable because she did not feel sexy enough for romance scenes or whether if was that she was uncomfortable having to act the intimate staring at a partner moment. I think that kind of scene requires the actors to pretend they are passionate at that time When he was acting he was looking at her like he's in love with her, but he quickly turns that off when not in character. If she was not comfortable doing "in love type looks she should not have signed up for a part that required to actors to pretend to be in love.

I can see where it's weird and that's why some actors don't do parts involving romantic intimacy. But it's weird to sign up for a part that requires the kind of intimate portrayal of passionate lovers and then try to direct the passion into talking scenes.

In any case, I don't understand why as the director he had to come up with some way to trick Blake into doing a take without talking. He could have just said "okay we're doing this one with just eye contact." He appears to not have a lot of authority on his own set if he's being told by others (producers? the AD? the cinematographer?) to get her to stop talking and he feels like he has to back his way into it instead of just telling her to stop talking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do you guys think this will conclude? Like where will their careers go from here?

Justin will continue to be a middle level director. Blake lively will settle having been made a fool and have a stink on her and Taylor swift will dump her or at least not be seen publicly. Ryan will come off as a controlling, jealous jerk but still be a star. I suspect Blake will lay low for 3ish years and lean into trad wife.

[Anonymous]

She definitely looks uncomfortable and he does keep leaning in and trying to kiss her and she pulls away or speaks and he does kiss her neck a couple times.

But I don’t know enough about filming to know what actors expect and how much improvising and what is appropriate and inappropriate. I don’t get the sense he is harassing her but wants the scene to be a lot more intimate than she does. He doesn’t seem to read the cues that she is uncomfortable.

I can’t imagine a job with this much intimacy and trying to walk these fine lines. I guess that’s why they have the intimacy coordinators. I wonder if the IC was on set during this part checking in with them or if the script just said slow dance - maybe it didn’t seem like it would need her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She definitely looks uncomfortable and he does keep leaning in and trying to kiss her and she pulls away or speaks and he does kiss her neck a couple times.

But I don’t know enough about filming to know what actors expect and how much improvising and what is appropriate and inappropriate. I don’t get the sense he is harassing her but wants the scene to be a lot more intimate than she does. He doesn’t seem to read the cues that she is uncomfortable.

I can’t imagine a job with this much intimacy and trying to walk these fine lines. I guess that’s why they have the intimacy coordinators. I wonder if the IC was on set during this part checking in with them or if the script just said slow dance - maybe it didn’t seem like it would need her.

+1 this was a scene where the IC would've been vital. This was lots of miscommunication between Blake,Justin, and the other writers producers on set. Blake has issues misinterpreting situations.