Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He's hot. She thinks she is hot. She was insecure right after a baby and felt rejected by his professionalism and the final straw was asking the trainer what her weight was for a carrying scene. Blake has insecurity about her weight. She also was not exactly a shoo in for this role. She's playing a woman in her early 20's in her late 30's as a mom of 4. Justin as the director probably had initial doubts she could play the role.

The movie is about domestic violence but Ms. Superfeminist does not like women being seen as weak so she went on a promo campaign about her hair products instead of the movie's actual plot. She's very sanctimonious, takes herself very seriously, and is quite self righteous, and Justin is sarcastic, calm, clinical about acting and not injecting personal beliefs/politics to a movie script's characters or movie's promotion.

Professionalism isn't having late night writing sessions with the actress you're supposed to be placing boundaries on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd - they are trying to pretend this is a normal workplace setting where touching is off limits and not a romcom set! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/blake-lively-breaks-silence-on-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us-footage/

"No woman should have to take defensive measures to avoid being touched by their employer without their consent." The whole longer statement context just makes it even more clearly out of touch with reality.

I know you'll all yell at me but I agree with what they are saying here. I do think the video shows pretty much what she described in her complaint. I don't see anything in this scene that disproves her complaint or catches her in a lie.

I think the damning thing is that the intimacy coordinator wasn't on set for the scene when he was improvising this stuff. Yes it's a romance and the movie has sex and intimacy. But that's what the IC is for, they could have avoided problems by just including her. I also think that having her on set might have resolves some of the difficulty of Baldoni directing these scenes while also being in them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who will dump Blake first: Ryan or bestie Taylor Swift?

Neither, I think this footage is beneficial for her and I think they are both very loyal to her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd - they are trying to pretend this is a normal workplace setting where touching is off limits and not a romcom set! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/blake-lively-breaks-silence-on-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us-footage/

"No woman should have to take defensive measures to avoid being touched by their employer without their consent." The whole longer statement context just makes it even more clearly out of touch with reality.

I know you'll all yell at me but I agree with what they are saying here. I do think the video shows pretty much what she described in her complaint. I don't see anything in this scene that disproves her complaint or catches her in a lie.

I think the damning thing is that the intimacy coordinator wasn't on set for the scene when he was improvising this stuff. Yes it's a romance and the movie has sex and intimacy. But that's what the IC is for, they could have avoided problems by just including her. I also think that having her on set might have resolves some of the difficulty of Baldoni directing these scenes while also being in them.

In her complaint she claimed he said she smelled good unprompted. That wasn't true. It was because she talked about her tanning lotion.

On the other hand Justin made it seem like she was intentionally being nasty to him by calling him a pyscho and made fun of his nose to hurt him. That wasn't true either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd - they are trying to pretend this is a normal workplace setting where touching is off limits and not a romcom set! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/blake-lively-breaks-silence-on-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us-footage/

"No woman should have to take defensive measures to avoid being touched by their employer without their consent." The whole longer statement context just makes it even more clearly out of touch with reality.

I feel like they are trying to gaslight us with that statement!

+1 they think people are stupid. She needs a better team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd - they are trying to pretend this is a normal workplace setting where touching is off limits and not a romcom set! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/blake-lively-breaks-silence-on-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us-footage/

"No woman should have to take defensive measures to avoid being touched by their employer without their consent." The whole longer statement context just makes it even more clearly out of touch with reality.

I feel like they are trying to gaslight us with that statement!

+1 they think people are stupid. She needs a better team.

Her team is responding with the defense they have. Same with Justin. Neither one have been 100% truthful.

[Anonymous]

It’s like Blake’s team is telling us to believe her and not our own eyes, it’s crazy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd - they are trying to pretend this is a normal workplace setting where touching is off limits and not a romcom set! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/blake-lively-breaks-silence-on-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us-footage/

"No woman should have to take defensive measures to avoid being touched by their employer without their consent." The whole longer statement context just makes it even more clearly out of touch with reality.

I know you'll all yell at me but I agree with what they are saying here. I do think the video shows pretty much what she described in her complaint. I don't see anything in this scene that disproves her complaint or catches her in a lie.

I think the damning thing is that the intimacy coordinator wasn't on set for the scene when he was improvising this stuff. Yes it's a romance and the movie has sex and intimacy. But that's what the IC is for, they could have avoided problems by just including her. I also think that having her on set might have resolves some of the difficulty of Baldoni directing these scenes while also being in them.

In her complaint she claimed he said she smelled good unprompted. That wasn't true. It was because she talked about her tanning lotion.

On the other hand Justin made it seem like she was intentionally being nasty to him by calling him a pyscho and made fun of his nose to hurt him. That wasn't true either.

This, but since the burden is on her to show that he was harassing her, she loses this battle. Baldoni included lots of information in his complaint that wasn't legally relevant that made her look bad, such as those examples. He doesn't need to prove she was being nasty to him, but she does need to prove she had a credible claim of sexual harassment. I thought Baldoni's complaint began and ended a whiny mess, but did a great job where it mattered, refuting her 17 points. I've generally been supportive of Lively on the thread, and still believe that his team unleashed a reddit troll army, and my first thought reading his complaint was if he's serious about all this being on tape, then leak it. And he gets credit for backing up his claims. He needs to put the rest out before she goes for a gag order.

The nuance here, I think, is that she claims he conducted the smear campaign with paid trolls (something I still believe to be true, but which is not necessarily illegal) out of retaliation for credible sexual harassment claims (which would make it illegal). His argument would be that he wasn't retaliating, but defending himself against her ginning up a phony sexual harassment claim, and though I hate to say it, this video goes a long way in bolstering that theory.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who will dump Blake first: Ryan or bestie Taylor Swift?

Not sure about Ryan and Taylor, but Colleen Hoover deleted her Instagram yesterday. She showed her support for Blake last month with writing on her Instagram “You have been nothing but honest, kind, supportive and patient since the day we met. Thank you for being exactly the human that you are. Never change. Never wilt.”

[Anonymous]

I’m genuinely surprised she’s not getting better advice given all the resources she and her husband have access to. They need to stop putting out these statements that paint her as a junior analyst just out of college type victim. They don’t understand that metoo rhetoric works when there is a power imbalance, and that absent that, you need damning evidence. He is an idiot yes, but he doesn’t have the reputation of woody Allen or Johnny depp. All her incompetent team is doing is feeding more fuel to the social media fire around this story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd - they are trying to pretend this is a normal workplace setting where touching is off limits and not a romcom set! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/blake-lively-breaks-silence-on-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us-footage/

"No woman should have to take defensive measures to avoid being touched by their employer without their consent." The whole longer statement context just makes it even more clearly out of touch with reality.

I know you'll all yell at me but I agree with what they are saying here. I do think the video shows pretty much what she described in her complaint. I don't see anything in this scene that disproves her complaint or catches her in a lie.

I think the damning thing is that the intimacy coordinator wasn't on set for the scene when he was improvising this stuff. Yes it's a romance and the movie has sex and intimacy. But that's what the IC is for, they could have avoided problems by just including her. I also think that having her on set might have resolves some of the difficulty of Baldoni directing these scenes while also being in them.

In her complaint she claimed he said she smelled good unprompted. That wasn't true. It was because she talked about her tanning lotion.

On the other hand Justin made it seem like she was intentionally being nasty to him by calling him a pyscho and made fun of his nose to hurt him. That wasn't true either.

I think the point about the nose is that they had a jokey relationship and anything can be taken out of context.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who will dump Blake first: Ryan or bestie Taylor Swift?

Not sure about Ryan and Taylor, but Colleen Hoover deleted her Instagram yesterday. She showed her support for Blake last month with writing on her Instagram “You have been nothing but honest, kind, supportive and patient since the day we met. Thank you for being exactly the human that you are. Never change. Never wilt.”

Colleen is just scared people will bring up how she bullied the woman who said her son harassed her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd - they are trying to pretend this is a normal workplace setting where touching is off limits and not a romcom set! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/blake-lively-breaks-silence-on-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us-footage/

"No woman should have to take defensive measures to avoid being touched by their employer without their consent." The whole longer statement context just makes it even more clearly out of touch with reality.

I feel like they are trying to gaslight us with that statement!

+1 they think people are stupid. She needs a better team.

They are trying to be relatable like she's "every woman" and it's falling so flat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absurd - they are trying to pretend this is a normal workplace setting where touching is off limits and not a romcom set! https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/blake-lively-breaks-silence-on-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us-footage/

"No woman should have to take defensive measures to avoid being touched by their employer without their consent." The whole longer statement context just makes it even more clearly out of touch with reality.

I know you'll all yell at me but I agree with what they are saying here. I do think the video shows pretty much what she described in her complaint. I don't see anything in this scene that disproves her complaint or catches her in a lie.

I think the damning thing is that the intimacy coordinator wasn't on set for the scene when he was improvising this stuff. Yes it's a romance and the movie has sex and intimacy. But that's what the IC is for, they could have avoided problems by just including her. I also think that having her on set might have resolves some of the difficulty of Baldoni directing these scenes while also being in them.

In her complaint she claimed he said she smelled good unprompted. That wasn't true. It was because she talked about her tanning lotion.

On the other hand Justin made it seem like she was intentionally being nasty to him by calling him a pyscho and made fun of his nose to hurt him. That wasn't true either.

This, but since the burden is on her to show that he was harassing her, she loses this battle. Baldoni included lots of information in his complaint that wasn't legally relevant that made her look bad, such as those examples. He doesn't need to prove she was being nasty to him, but she does need to prove she had a credible claim of sexual harassment. I thought Baldoni's complaint began and ended a whiny mess, but did a great job where it mattered, refuting her 17 points. I've generally been supportive of Lively on the thread, and still believe that his team unleashed a reddit troll army, and my first thought reading his complaint was if he's serious about all this being on tape, then leak it. And he gets credit for backing up his claims. He needs to put the rest out before she goes for a gag order.

The nuance here, I think, is that she claims he conducted the smear campaign with paid trolls (something I still believe to be true, but which is not necessarily illegal) out of retaliation for credible sexual harassment claims (which would make it illegal). His argument would be that he wasn't retaliating, but defending himself against her ginning up a phony sexual harassment claim, and though I hate to say it, this video goes a long way in bolstering that theory.

I’m curious about where this reddit troll army is located. I haven’t seen it. Fauxmoi is incredibly pro lively and so is popculturechat (though she’s getting some criticism today!). The Blakelivelysnark and justinbaldoni subreddits seem to be tiny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m genuinely surprised she’s not getting better advice given all the resources she and her husband have access to. They need to stop putting out these statements that paint her as a junior analyst just out of college type victim. They don’t understand that metoo rhetoric works when there is a power imbalance, and that absent that, you need damning evidence. He is an idiot yes, but he doesn’t have the reputation of woody Allen or Johnny depp. All her incompetent team is doing is feeding more fuel to the social media fire around this story.

+1 this is not Harvey Weinstein with things happening behind closed doors. Whatever conduct is alleged was on set and in groups and out in the open for all to see. In light of the power disparity, it's hard to imagine he would suddenly be harassing an A-list co-star and she's not providing much basis to say he did.