War with Iran Part II

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me explain. The U.S. is a superpower. As such, the U.S. secures its political, economic, and military supremacy worldwide by any means. It can cloud actions in democracy, but if you believe that, I can't help you. You need to go to school and learn more.

In addition, without the U.S. presence in Qatar, Qatar would not exist; Saudi Arabia sees it as its own territory. The UAE and Iran might be in open conflict over disputed islands.
Saudi Arabia fights with Qatar for media and political influence. The UAE has an economic rivalry, etc.
Qatar backs Islamist groups as it is tiny and needs to be seen as a powerful player to keep existing as a country.
Saudi Arabia and the UAE see the Muslim Brotherhood and other groups as a major source of instability in the region and are fully against Qatar's actions. They are angry at Qatar.

While the U.S. actions right now have destabilized the markets, this is nothing compared to what would happen if the U.S. withdrew completely from GCC countries.

Iran becomes a major regional power.
What the U.S. really controls is:
maritime security
deterrence against disruptions
crisis response capacity
That influence is enormous.

Certainly, right now, we have done damage for nothing. Apart from preventing some oil access to China for a while, which is huge in geopolitical games.

I am not disagreeing that the U.S. actions have caused mayhem, bcs right now our government is incompetent, and you can't fire all your five-star generals and not think things through before you act.

Leaving GCC completely would be insane for the U.S. as a superpower. I, personally, prefer to be a citizen of a superpower, rather than of some small country that has no influence anywhere.
Only a fool would say, "leave GCC." Or a foreign actor. Iran has them everywhere.

I too prefer to be a citizen of a superpower, but it is also apparent our empire is contracting. We have been trying to pivot out of the middle east for years. Looks like this attempt was a fiasco. I still think we will keep trying.

I wish there was a way to cut a deal with Iran, keep GCC oil flowing yet tolled, and pull out troops. However, Iran is probably more interested in religious crazy than the money involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me explain. The U.S. is a superpower. As such, the U.S. secures its political, economic, and military supremacy worldwide by any means. It can cloud actions in democracy, but if you believe that, I can't help you. You need to go to school and learn more.

In addition, without the U.S. presence in Qatar, Qatar would not exist; Saudi Arabia sees it as its own territory. The UAE and Iran might be in open conflict over disputed islands.
Saudi Arabia fights with Qatar for media and political influence. The UAE has an economic rivalry, etc.
Qatar backs Islamist groups as it is tiny and needs to be seen as a powerful player to keep existing as a country.
Saudi Arabia and the UAE see the Muslim Brotherhood and other groups as a major source of instability in the region and are fully against Qatar's actions. They are angry at Qatar.

While the U.S. actions right now have destabilized the markets, this is nothing compared to what would happen if the U.S. withdrew completely from GCC countries.

Iran becomes a major regional power.
What the U.S. really controls is:
maritime security
deterrence against disruptions
crisis response capacity
That influence is enormous.

Certainly, right now, we have done damage for nothing. Apart from preventing some oil access to China for a while, which is huge in geopolitical games.

I am not disagreeing that the U.S. actions have caused mayhem, bcs right now our government is incompetent, and you can't fire all your five-star generals and not think things through before you act.

Leaving GCC completely would be insane for the U.S. as a superpower. I, personally, prefer to be a citizen of a superpower, rather than of some small country that has no influence anywhere.
Only a fool would say, "leave GCC." Or a foreign actor. Iran has them everywhere.

This is what we believe Thanks to hubris and delusions fed by israel . In reality, there’s no evidence the Middle East will devolve into more war and regional conflict without us.

They weee doing just fine before US and before Israeli presence. They were pretty peaceful during ww2 when Europeans fled to the MENA region for asylum.hey don’t need our policing and the US doesn’t care about Qatari sovereignty. They only care about Israeli sovereignty. Iran called out this and made it clear by bombing the bases in all the gulf states and the Us did nothing to defend those nations and instead rerouted supplies from Korea to protect israel. The Us didn’t care about protecting its own soldiers or the gulf states. Israel was and is the only priority

[Anonymous]

Oh, the US also lied about how many casualties our poor troops actually received. Iran should be and probably will be the end of our Middle East adventures.

Israel is on their own after Trump

[Anonymous]

Agree that the US doesn't care about the Gulf at all. It is as clear as day now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, the US also lied about how many casualties our poor troops actually received. Iran should be and probably will be the end of our Middle East adventures.

Israel is on their own after Trump

Not if corporate, AIPAC-backed Dems back into power. Israel will be back in vogue then.