UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a psychologist but I have a close family member with schizophrenia. His behavior seems schizophrenic to me.


His descriptions of “brain fog” starting in college could be consistent with symptoms in the prodrome of schizophrenia as could the social and occupational withdrawal. To me he seems ill for sure but certainly not a slam dunk for schizophrenia based on what we’ve seen of his writing and behavior.

Interestingly, the unabomber was diagnosed w schizophrenia as that was thought to be the best fit but it definitely wasn’t a typical presentation. Just interesting to have two extremely bright people with similar (but very atypical) presentations if it does turn out to be schizophrenia.


Is a high level of intelligence consistent with schizophrenia?
no


It certainly can be. Think about A Beautiful Mind, which is based on a true story.


There are low IQ, avg IQ and high IQ schizophrenics. No correlation.

Don’t care if books or movies were made for one or the other.
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Anonymous wrote:The young ones are also taking no crap from Josh Shapiro about this. They are very upset with him and also treating this situation as "unserious" as they say. It is interesting how the 'support' for Mangione doesn't seem based in political ideology, but rather social/power strata differences.

https://www.tiktok.com/@spacepinata/video/7446908246150974763?lang=en

https://www.tiktok.com/@dulcedeletii/video/7446569595961412906







It’s wild to see, it seems like he interacted with a lot of conservative media, but they don’t seem to mind because “he did something for the working class”. He also was someone who was never meant to be radicalized. He had all of the privilege in the world and rejected it and I think that is where the strange praise stems from.
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Luigi hired an Altoona, PA-based attorney, Tom Dickey. Did he just pull out the yellow pages at the local jail? I hope this lawyer is good.
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Do you think his mother knew it was him? I mean, she probably couldn’t quite bring herself to believe it, but a little nagging feeling ?
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Anonymous wrote:Do you think his mother knew it was him? I mean, she probably couldn’t quite bring herself to believe it, but a little nagging feeling ?


Very likely. The family probably keeps up with news as well as we do. She must have seen the photos, probably didn’t want to believe it though. My heart hurts for her.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not a psychologist but I have a close family member with schizophrenia. His behavior seems schizophrenic to me.


Agree with above. I also had a family member (Swarthmore and Univ of Chicago grad) who was schizophrenic. The behavior is very similar.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:Luigi hired an Altoona, PA-based attorney, Tom Dickey. Did he just pull out the yellow pages at the local jail? I hope this lawyer is good.


He’s been all over the news. Joe Pesci will play him in the movie.
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Lots of disbelief- ppl think it’s a setup:
https://x.com/lawyerleew/status/1866607817534173479?s=46
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Luigi hired an Altoona, PA-based attorney, Tom Dickey. Did he just pull out the yellow pages at the local jail? I hope this lawyer is good.


He’s been all over the news. Joe Pesci will play him in the movie.


Love the casting!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Luigi hired an Altoona, PA-based attorney, Tom Dickey. Did he just pull out the yellow pages at the local jail? I hope this lawyer is good.


He’s been all over the news. Joe Pesci will play him in the movie.


And for Luigi’s love interest they should cast me. You know, to spice up the movie a bit.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you think his mother knew it was him? I mean, she probably couldn’t quite bring herself to believe it, but a little nagging feeling ?


Very likely. The family probably keeps up with news as well as we do. She must have seen the photos, probably didn’t want to believe it though. My heart hurts for her.


If you had filed with the police a missing persons report and then saw someone who looked like him on tv, what would you think?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you think his mother knew it was him? I mean, she probably couldn’t quite bring herself to believe it, but a little nagging feeling ?


Very likely. The family probably keeps up with news as well as we do. She must have seen the photos, probably didn’t want to believe it though. My heart hurts for her.


If you had filed with the police a missing persons report and then saw someone who looked like him on tv, what would you think?


I also think a parent would know their child by their eyes, no question.
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Anonymous wrote:Lots of disbelief- ppl think it’s a setup:
https://x.com/lawyerleew/status/1866607817534173479?s=46


And this one:
https://x.com/peruvian_bull/status/1866213955687022656?s=46

Let me get this straight:

Killer is Luigi Mangione, Ivy League grad with degrees in comp sci, avid reader and active contributor on GitHub.

He has a 130+ IQ but he takes off his mask at a Starbucks to flirt with an employee, then an hour later goes and calmly kills the CEO of a major healthcare company, rides away on a bike.

A week later goes to a local McDonalds where he brings the murder weapon, the fake ID he used to check into a hotel, and a written manifesto on how horrible the American healthcare system is. He somehow gets identified by the cashier after he sits down.

He works on his laptop until police come inside the McDonalds, sitting there with a ghost gun and suppressor he made himself.

Gotcha.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of disbelief- ppl think it’s a setup:
https://x.com/lawyerleew/status/1866607817534173479?s=46


And this one:
https://x.com/peruvian_bull/status/1866213955687022656?s=46

Let me get this straight:

Killer is Luigi Mangione, Ivy League grad with degrees in comp sci, avid reader and active contributor on GitHub.

He has a 130+ IQ but he takes off his mask at a Starbucks to flirt with an employee, then an hour later goes and calmly kills the CEO of a major healthcare company, rides away on a bike.

A week later goes to a local McDonalds where he brings the murder weapon, the fake ID he used to check into a hotel, and a written manifesto on how horrible the American healthcare system is. He somehow gets identified by the cashier after he sits down.

He works on his laptop until police come inside the McDonalds, sitting there with a ghost gun and suppressor he made himself.

Gotcha.


Maybe he kept the gun to do himself in, but saw how much support he was getting and changed his mind.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m seeing a lot of idolizing of the shooter as well among Gen Z and Gen Alpha, especially online. I don’t see how this is measurably different than the kids in the 1990s who adored Che Guavara (who executed far more innocents than Mangione did) and made him into a cultural hero.

Of course the reality is repellent, but there has always been a subset of young political idiots who ignore the real-life brutality and crime in favor of creating a myth. It’s shocking to many of us but it is not uncommon.


FWIW I don't think they are idiots, nor are they particularly political.


You are right. Idiots was too strongly worded. What I am trying to get at is that there have always been young people who latch onto various violent figures and look away or ignore the actual brutality perpetrated by those figures in favor of idealizing a message. It happens in every generation.

The Unabomber still has a hold on a certain subset of kids in this generation, and Luigi Mangione is essentially this generation’s Unabomber. They see him as striking a blow against a system they hate and feel disaffected from.

I am not defending this, but trying to explain the popularity of Mangione.
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