Gaza war and College Campus Protests

Anonymous
Guys. I got it. I found a book that shows the Palestinian people actually came from Australia 4000 years ago during a great diaspora. It makes sense they want to return to their homeland, so let's just kick those aboriginals aside so Gazans can return to their homeland. What could possibly go wrong?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or Israel has the right to defend itself.


Who DOESN'T have the right to defend themselves? Is Israel the only regional player that has that "right", in your one-track mind?

Why do you keep squawking about Israel and self-defense when nobody initiates more conflict with more sovereign nations than Israel? How could they posiooibly pay attention to self-defense when they're busy violating international law by attacking neighbors left and right?


These responses illustrate why the DNC did not invite a Palestinian-American to speak at the convention. A whole lot of crazy, shooting off at the mouth.


The DNC did not invite a Palestinian-American to speak at the convention because the DNC, just like almost everyone else in our political class, has already whored itself out to AIPAC.


Well AIPAC donates money and votes. The "uncommitted" don't have much to offer given their demands are not going to be met by either political party.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or Israel has the right to defend itself.


Who DOESN'T have the right to defend themselves? Is Israel the only regional player that has that "right", in your one-track mind?

Why do you keep squawking about Israel and self-defense when nobody initiates more conflict with more sovereign nations than Israel? How could they posiooibly pay attention to self-defense when they're busy violating international law by attacking neighbors left and right?


These responses illustrate why the DNC did not invite a Palestinian-American to speak at the convention. A whole lot of crazy, shooting off at the mouth.


The DNC did not invite a Palestinian-American to speak at the convention because the DNC, just like almost everyone else in our political class, has already whored itself out to AIPAC.


Well AIPAC donates money and votes. The "uncommitted" don't have much to offer given their demands are not going to be met by either political party.


What’s your point? The ROI on AIPAC’s spend is at least 10x - every year.

Don’t make it sound like Israel doesn’t make out like an absolute bandit. Spend $400M, leading to a minimum of $4B annually (and at least $40B this year).
Anonymous
What got the Palestinian speech nixed was the line about “free the Israeli and Palestinian hostages” which is equating grandmothers and babies taken from their beds with Sinwar et al and other terrorists being framed as hostages. Are there Palestinians in jail who shouldn’t be there? Yes. Are there dozens of others who are Hamas or Hamas adjacent yes. They politicized their own speech and sunk it.
Anonymous
I hope you all read the what the horrible anti-Semite wrote a couple of pages before. That is why I do report her. Truly quoting historical figures out of contexts and say how Jews are happy that the Holocaust happened.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Or Israel has the right to defend itself.


Who DOESN'T have the right to defend themselves? Is Israel the only regional player that has that "right", in your one-track mind?

Why do you keep squawking about Israel and self-defense when nobody initiates more conflict with more sovereign nations than Israel? How could they posiooibly pay attention to self-defense when they're busy violating international law by attacking neighbors left and right?


These responses illustrate why the DNC did not invite a Palestinian-American to speak at the convention. A whole lot of crazy, shooting off at the mouth.


The DNC did not invite a Palestinian-American to speak at the convention because the DNC, just like almost everyone else in our political class, has already whored itself out to AIPAC.


Well AIPAC donates money and votes. The "uncommitted" don't have much to offer given their demands are not going to be met by either political party.


Biden won Michigan by 150,000 votes. If those people don't vote for Kamala cause they don't like her stance on Palestine the dems will lose. Thats the power of the uncommited vote. Believe it or not this is a democracy and its not just about AIPACs money
Anonymous
Houthis just blew up an oil tanker twice the size of the Exxon Valdez.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What got the Palestinian speech nixed was the line about “free the Israeli and Palestinian hostages” which is equating grandmothers and babies taken from their beds with Sinwar et al and other terrorists being framed as hostages. Are there Palestinians in jail who shouldn’t be there? Yes. Are there dozens of others who are Hamas or Hamas adjacent yes. They politicized their own speech and sunk it.


I don’t see the difference. If you’re in detention without charge and were taken from your home at random, you’re a hostae
Anonymous
The sheep spend all their lives worried about the wolf when in the end the shepherd they love is who kills them.

Anonymous
Why would Netanyahu want to find Sinwar and the hostages and wrap this war up?

So he can face a shell shocked post war Israeli public and resumed investigations? Pre-10/7, He was trying to change the judiciary so he doesn’t get charged.

Why would Hamas want a post war Gaza? To face Gazan wrath and a shell shocked public furious at Hamas’ war of destruction?

Neither party has any incentive to stop anything
Anonymous
Do you really think Israel wants to kill Sinwar and let Egyptians, Palestinian Authority, or even worse Americans or the UN administer Gaza? Hell no.

They want Hamas to stay put
Anonymous
Like a lot of individuals who have strong feelings of condemnation toward Israel’s actions and policies and toward anyone who unconditionally supports those actions and policies, I’m ready to recognize Israel as a full-fledged member of the global community when it meets certain conditions. First, removal of the Netanyahu administration from power and delivery of Netanyahu to the ICC/ICJ for prosecution. Second, banning the Likud party and any political party that supports the settler movement as state-sponsors of terrorism. Third, commitment to a two-state solution within five years with security guarantees for all states in the region, not just for Israel. Fourth, scaled-reduction of any aid to the region used for military assistance, replaced at some level by aid to be used for rebuilding and civil development projects. And fifth, commitment by Israel and all states in the region to adhere to international law, to officially recognize the right of all regional states to exist, and to observe and respect borders, airspace, and national sovereignty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Like a lot of individuals who have strong feelings of condemnation toward Israel’s actions and policies and toward anyone who unconditionally supports those actions and policies, I’m ready to recognize Israel as a full-fledged member of the global community when it meets certain conditions. First, removal of the Netanyahu administration from power and delivery of Netanyahu to the ICC/ICJ for prosecution. Second, banning the Likud party and any political party that supports the settler movement as state-sponsors of terrorism. Third, commitment to a two-state solution within five years with security guarantees for all states in the region, not just for Israel. Fourth, scaled-reduction of any aid to the region used for military assistance, replaced at some level by aid to be used for rebuilding and civil development projects. And fifth, commitment by Israel and all states in the region to adhere to international law, to officially recognize the right of all regional states to exist, and to observe and respect borders, airspace, and national sovereignty.


Well that isn’t going to happen. Israel wants dominance in the region not safety and to be an equal player.

In the American political sphere, there’s 2 views of Israel among the elite: one is the public view that it’s our strongest ally and its our moral obligation to protect Israel as it’s in danger due to being the Jewish state in a hostile region, and the second view that it’s a frenemy to the US that needs to be dealt with caution as they are equally as dangerous as anyone else in the Middle East and that Israel is not a non hostile actor just looking for peace with its neighbors.

Israel wants dominance over the Middle East and the U.S. Peace is what they feel is the result of dominance
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Like a lot of individuals who have strong feelings of condemnation toward Israel’s actions and policies and toward anyone who unconditionally supports those actions and policies, I’m ready to recognize Israel as a full-fledged member of the global community when it meets certain conditions. First, removal of the Netanyahu administration from power and delivery of Netanyahu to the ICC/ICJ for prosecution. Second, banning the Likud party and any political party that supports the settler movement as state-sponsors of terrorism. Third, commitment to a two-state solution within five years with security guarantees for all states in the region, not just for Israel. Fourth, scaled-reduction of any aid to the region used for military assistance, replaced at some level by aid to be used for rebuilding and civil development projects. And fifth, commitment by Israel and all states in the region to adhere to international law, to officially recognize the right of all regional states to exist, and to observe and respect borders, airspace, and national sovereignty.


Well that isn’t going to happen. Israel wants dominance in the region not safety and to be an equal player.

In the American political sphere, there’s 2 views of Israel among the elite: one is the public view that it’s our strongest ally and its our moral obligation to protect Israel as it’s in danger due to being the Jewish state in a hostile region, and the second view that it’s a frenemy to the US that needs to be dealt with caution as they are equally as dangerous as anyone else in the Middle East and that Israel is not a non hostile actor just looking for peace with its neighbors.

Israel wants dominance over the Middle East and the U.S. Peace is what they feel is the result of dominance


That entire response is apparently based on an unrealistic view that the geopolitical tides are now set, will never change, and the U.S. will forever more remain the lone superpower to control the outcome of regional conflicts.

Based on thousands of years of world history, does that actually seem like a reliable, sober view to you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Like a lot of individuals who have strong feelings of condemnation toward Israel’s actions and policies and toward anyone who unconditionally supports those actions and policies, I’m ready to recognize Israel as a full-fledged member of the global community when it meets certain conditions. First, removal of the Netanyahu administration from power and delivery of Netanyahu to the ICC/ICJ for prosecution. Second, banning the Likud party and any political party that supports the settler movement as state-sponsors of terrorism. Third, commitment to a two-state solution within five years with security guarantees for all states in the region, not just for Israel. Fourth, scaled-reduction of any aid to the region used for military assistance, replaced at some level by aid to be used for rebuilding and civil development projects. And fifth, commitment by Israel and all states in the region to adhere to international law, to officially recognize the right of all regional states to exist, and to observe and respect borders, airspace, and national sovereignty.

Luckily for all others, nobody gives a crap about what you are ready to recognize. Your whole rant reeks of narcissism.
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