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Anonymous wrote:One data point: A Top ECNL boy club. One late boomer Aug kid on 8th grade, having little time playing time on the 2012 team is asked by the head coach to play on the 2013 team (Same coach) starting from July. And parents pretty happy about it

This makes no sense.

An Aug 2012 will be playing up a year right now in BY. When BY changes to SY depending on when the school district starts they will either be rostered on a 2013 team thats their grade in school OR they would be rostered on a 2014 team a grade down. In the second situation Aug birthdays play up a year so they're playing on the 2013 team thats their grade in school.

What you're trying to make sound negative is whats supposed to happen switching from BY to SY.

The way I read it is the player is Aug 2012, been playing BY 2012. Now they have a choice to play with the current 2013s, which next year will be a mix of late 2012s and early 2013s. The Aug player will get more playing time now because they will be one of the oldest.

Maybe, it's probably fair to assume that a player used to playing up will do well if changed to playing on a team thats their grade in school. But you never know.

When it comes to college recruiting it will be much easier to get noticed playing on a team thats your grade in school. This goes both ways (playing up and down) although playing up can be beneficial if marketed correctly. What most people dont understand is that theres a rhythm with recruiting and college coaches. 90% of looking at/for players occurs Sophmore year. If you're misaligned either way college coaches tend to overlook you. Sure you can reach out to XYZ coach or depend on promotion from your club. But you're not in alignment with college coach processes and procedures which just makes things harder.

Here is an example, play on age, perform well, get motivated, go to Id sessions, contact college coaches, go to more ID sessions, get good grades, get an offer. Age group doesn't matter, being the best player you can be matters. No such thing as " harder" or easier recruiting. They take foreign players and transfers.

Stamp your feet and cry all you want but Aug birthdays playing down a grade is a serious challenge with college recruiting.

It's a logistical challenge, but it remains to be seen how "serious" it is. You definitely are in the doom and gloom camp for those players.

Theres 2 factors you can count on.

1. College coaches will have a lot of players to choose from
2. College coaches have limited time to review players

Anything odd or non standard (aug birthdays playing down a grade) adds an unknown into the equation. If theres 10 equivalent options that dont have that unknown this is who they'll pick.

Hence, a potential logistical challenge. BUT coaches deal with all sorts of these uneven situations now since BY teams are basically 2 grades as others have noted with transfers, international students, etc. Heck, coaches still go to HS games to watch potential recruits, fields full of players from different grades. And coaches are less likely to be concerned if there watching these players at a top level club.

At the end of the day, the player needs to what's in their best interest. Playing up to play on grade might mean bench time OR playing on a B team that draws little interest from scouts vs. playing on an A team where you would get seen and perhaps stand out as an older, more experienced player (especially during this transition). Still, these players shouldn't take anything for granted and talk to their coaches and colleges they are interested in to find out what's the best path.

Nobody believes the nonsense you're selling.

Unfortunately anyone that listens to you about playing down will regret it when their kid gets to recruitment age.

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Anonymous wrote:One data point: A Top ECNL boy club. One late boomer Aug kid on 8th grade, having little time playing time on the 2012 team is asked by the head coach to play on the 2013 team (Same coach) starting from July. And parents pretty happy about it

This makes no sense.

An Aug 2012 will be playing up a year right now in BY. When BY changes to SY depending on when the school district starts they will either be rostered on a 2013 team thats their grade in school OR they would be rostered on a 2014 team a grade down. In the second situation Aug birthdays play up a year so they're playing on the 2013 team thats their grade in school.

What you're trying to make sound negative is whats supposed to happen switching from BY to SY.

The way I read it is the player is Aug 2012, been playing BY 2012. Now they have a choice to play with the current 2013s, which next year will be a mix of late 2012s and early 2013s. The Aug player will get more playing time now because they will be one of the oldest.

Maybe, it's probably fair to assume that a player used to playing up will do well if changed to playing on a team thats their grade in school. But you never know.

When it comes to college recruiting it will be much easier to get noticed playing on a team thats your grade in school. This goes both ways (playing up and down) although playing up can be beneficial if marketed correctly. What most people dont understand is that theres a rhythm with recruiting and college coaches. 90% of looking at/for players occurs Sophmore year. If you're misaligned either way college coaches tend to overlook you. Sure you can reach out to XYZ coach or depend on promotion from your club. But you're not in alignment with college coach processes and procedures which just makes things harder.

Here is an example, play on age, perform well, get motivated, go to Id sessions, contact college coaches, go to more ID sessions, get good grades, get an offer. Age group doesn't matter, being the best player you can be matters. No such thing as " harder" or easier recruiting. They take foreign players and transfers.

Stamp your feet and cry all you want but Aug birthdays playing down a grade is a serious challenge with college recruiting.

It's a logistical challenge, but it remains to be seen how "serious" it is. You definitely are in the doom and gloom camp for those players.

Theres 2 factors you can count on.

1. College coaches will have a lot of players to choose from
2. College coaches have limited time to review players

Anything odd or non standard (aug birthdays playing down a grade) adds an unknown into the equation. If theres 10 equivalent options that dont have that unknown this is who they'll pick.

Hence, a potential logistical challenge. BUT coaches deal with all sorts of these uneven situations now since BY teams are basically 2 grades as others have noted with transfers, international students, etc. Heck, coaches still go to HS games to watch potential recruits, fields full of players from different grades. And coaches are less likely to be concerned if there watching these players at a top level club.

At the end of the day, the player needs to what's in their best interest. Playing up to play on grade might mean bench time OR playing on a B team that draws little interest from scouts vs. playing on an A team where you would get seen and perhaps stand out as an older, more experienced player (especially during this transition). Still, these players shouldn't take anything for granted and talk to their coaches and colleges they are interested in to find out what's the best path.

Nobody believes the nonsense you're selling.

Unfortunately anyone that listens to you about playing down will regret it when their kid gets to recruitment age.

You protest so much that your credibility is nil.

Your constant harping to make playing by grade as an unwritten rule is more than you wanting to be right, it has been in the phase of you needing to be right for months. Needing to sandbag August by playing up a year by whatever means necessary to make your dear girl the oldest. So she can benefit the most from RAE.

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Anonymous wrote:One data point: A Top ECNL boy club. One late boomer Aug kid on 8th grade, having little time playing time on the 2012 team is asked by the head coach to play on the 2013 team (Same coach) starting from July. And parents pretty happy about it

This makes no sense.

An Aug 2012 will be playing up a year right now in BY. When BY changes to SY depending on when the school district starts they will either be rostered on a 2013 team thats their grade in school OR they would be rostered on a 2014 team a grade down. In the second situation Aug birthdays play up a year so they're playing on the 2013 team thats their grade in school.

What you're trying to make sound negative is whats supposed to happen switching from BY to SY.

The way I read it is the player is Aug 2012, been playing BY 2012. Now they have a choice to play with the current 2013s, which next year will be a mix of late 2012s and early 2013s. The Aug player will get more playing time now because they will be one of the oldest.

Maybe, it's probably fair to assume that a player used to playing up will do well if changed to playing on a team thats their grade in school. But you never know.

When it comes to college recruiting it will be much easier to get noticed playing on a team thats your grade in school. This goes both ways (playing up and down) although playing up can be beneficial if marketed correctly. What most people dont understand is that theres a rhythm with recruiting and college coaches. 90% of looking at/for players occurs Sophmore year. If you're misaligned either way college coaches tend to overlook you. Sure you can reach out to XYZ coach or depend on promotion from your club. But you're not in alignment with college coach processes and procedures which just makes things harder.

Here is an example, play on age, perform well, get motivated, go to Id sessions, contact college coaches, go to more ID sessions, get good grades, get an offer. Age group doesn't matter, being the best player you can be matters. No such thing as " harder" or easier recruiting. They take foreign players and transfers.

Stamp your feet and cry all you want but Aug birthdays playing down a grade is a serious challenge with college recruiting.

It's a logistical challenge, but it remains to be seen how "serious" it is. You definitely are in the doom and gloom camp for those players.

Theres 2 factors you can count on.

1. College coaches will have a lot of players to choose from
2. College coaches have limited time to review players

Anything odd or non standard (aug birthdays playing down a grade) adds an unknown into the equation. If theres 10 equivalent options that dont have that unknown this is who they'll pick.

Hence, a potential logistical challenge. BUT coaches deal with all sorts of these uneven situations now since BY teams are basically 2 grades as others have noted with transfers, international students, etc. Heck, coaches still go to HS games to watch potential recruits, fields full of players from different grades. And coaches are less likely to be concerned if there watching these players at a top level club.

At the end of the day, the player needs to what's in their best interest. Playing up to play on grade might mean bench time OR playing on a B team that draws little interest from scouts vs. playing on an A team where you would get seen and perhaps stand out as an older, more experienced player (especially during this transition). Still, these players shouldn't take anything for granted and talk to their coaches and colleges they are interested in to find out what's the best path.

Nobody believes the nonsense you're selling.

Unfortunately anyone that listens to you about playing down will regret it when their kid gets to recruitment age.

You protest so much that your credibility is nil.

Your constant harping to make playing by grade as an unwritten rule is more than you wanting to be right, it has been in the phase of you needing to be right for months. Needing to sandbag August by playing up a year by whatever means necessary to make your dear girl the oldest. So she can benefit the most from RAE.

No clue what you're talking about + I think rae is garbage.

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I think reality is finally starting to sink into age guys head. He's starting to realize that playing down isnt a golden ticket to an A team.

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Anonymous wrote:I think reality is finally starting to sink into age guys head. He's starting to realize that playing down isnt a golden ticket to an A team.

Nope, not one person saying your have no idea what you are talking about. Clubs said best play up, rest play on age. Players assigned teams in age group. Take it or leave but other clubs also said only best play up.

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Anonymous wrote:One data point: A Top ECNL boy club. One late boomer Aug kid on 8th grade, having little time playing time on the 2012 team is asked by the head coach to play on the 2013 team (Same coach) starting from July. And parents pretty happy about it

This makes no sense.

An Aug 2012 will be playing up a year right now in BY. When BY changes to SY depending on when the school district starts they will either be rostered on a 2013 team thats their grade in school OR they would be rostered on a 2014 team a grade down. In the second situation Aug birthdays play up a year so they're playing on the 2013 team thats their grade in school.

What you're trying to make sound negative is whats supposed to happen switching from BY to SY.

The way I read it is the player is Aug 2012, been playing BY 2012. Now they have a choice to play with the current 2013s, which next year will be a mix of late 2012s and early 2013s. The Aug player will get more playing time now because they will be one of the oldest.

Maybe, it's probably fair to assume that a player used to playing up will do well if changed to playing on a team thats their grade in school. But you never know.

When it comes to college recruiting it will be much easier to get noticed playing on a team thats your grade in school. This goes both ways (playing up and down) although playing up can be beneficial if marketed correctly. What most people dont understand is that theres a rhythm with recruiting and college coaches. 90% of looking at/for players occurs Sophmore year. If you're misaligned either way college coaches tend to overlook you. Sure you can reach out to XYZ coach or depend on promotion from your club. But you're not in alignment with college coach processes and procedures which just makes things harder.

Here is an example, play on age, perform well, get motivated, go to Id sessions, contact college coaches, go to more ID sessions, get good grades, get an offer. Age group doesn't matter, being the best player you can be matters. No such thing as " harder" or easier recruiting. They take foreign players and transfers.

Stamp your feet and cry all you want but Aug birthdays playing down a grade is a serious challenge with college recruiting.

It's a logistical challenge, but it remains to be seen how "serious" it is. You definitely are in the doom and gloom camp for those players.

Theres 2 factors you can count on.

1. College coaches will have a lot of players to choose from
2. College coaches have limited time to review players

Anything odd or non standard (aug birthdays playing down a grade) adds an unknown into the equation. If theres 10 equivalent options that dont have that unknown this is who they'll pick.

Hence, a potential logistical challenge. BUT coaches deal with all sorts of these uneven situations now since BY teams are basically 2 grades as others have noted with transfers, international students, etc. Heck, coaches still go to HS games to watch potential recruits, fields full of players from different grades. And coaches are less likely to be concerned if there watching these players at a top level club.

At the end of the day, the player needs to what's in their best interest. Playing up to play on grade might mean bench time OR playing on a B team that draws little interest from scouts vs. playing on an A team where you would get seen and perhaps stand out as an older, more experienced player (especially during this transition). Still, these players shouldn't take anything for granted and talk to their coaches and colleges they are interested in to find out what's the best path.

Nobody believes the nonsense you're selling.

Unfortunately anyone that listens to you about playing down will regret it when their kid gets to recruitment age.

You protest so much that your credibility is nil.

Your constant harping to make playing by grade as an unwritten rule is more than you wanting to be right, it has been in the phase of you needing to be right for months. Needing to sandbag August by playing up a year by whatever means necessary to make your dear girl the oldest. So she can benefit the most from RAE.

No clue what you're talking about + I think rae is garbage.

Then why do you need August kids to be the youngest? Is it for your Sept girl to be oldest?

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Anonymous wrote:One data point: A Top ECNL boy club. One late boomer Aug kid on 8th grade, having little time playing time on the 2012 team is asked by the head coach to play on the 2013 team (Same coach) starting from July. And parents pretty happy about it

This makes no sense.

An Aug 2012 will be playing up a year right now in BY. When BY changes to SY depending on when the school district starts they will either be rostered on a 2013 team thats their grade in school OR they would be rostered on a 2014 team a grade down. In the second situation Aug birthdays play up a year so they're playing on the 2013 team thats their grade in school.

What you're trying to make sound negative is whats supposed to happen switching from BY to SY.

The way I read it is the player is Aug 2012, been playing BY 2012. Now they have a choice to play with the current 2013s, which next year will be a mix of late 2012s and early 2013s. The Aug player will get more playing time now because they will be one of the oldest.

Maybe, it's probably fair to assume that a player used to playing up will do well if changed to playing on a team thats their grade in school. But you never know.

When it comes to college recruiting it will be much easier to get noticed playing on a team thats your grade in school. This goes both ways (playing up and down) although playing up can be beneficial if marketed correctly. What most people dont understand is that theres a rhythm with recruiting and college coaches. 90% of looking at/for players occurs Sophmore year. If you're misaligned either way college coaches tend to overlook you. Sure you can reach out to XYZ coach or depend on promotion from your club. But you're not in alignment with college coach processes and procedures which just makes things harder.

Here is an example, play on age, perform well, get motivated, go to Id sessions, contact college coaches, go to more ID sessions, get good grades, get an offer. Age group doesn't matter, being the best player you can be matters. No such thing as " harder" or easier recruiting. They take foreign players and transfers.

Stamp your feet and cry all you want but Aug birthdays playing down a grade is a serious challenge with college recruiting.

It's a logistical challenge, but it remains to be seen how "serious" it is. You definitely are in the doom and gloom camp for those players.

Theres 2 factors you can count on.

1. College coaches will have a lot of players to choose from
2. College coaches have limited time to review players

Anything odd or non standard (aug birthdays playing down a grade) adds an unknown into the equation. If theres 10 equivalent options that dont have that unknown this is who they'll pick.

Hence, a potential logistical challenge. BUT coaches deal with all sorts of these uneven situations now since BY teams are basically 2 grades as others have noted with transfers, international students, etc. Heck, coaches still go to HS games to watch potential recruits, fields full of players from different grades. And coaches are less likely to be concerned if there watching these players at a top level club.

At the end of the day, the player needs to what's in their best interest. Playing up to play on grade might mean bench time OR playing on a B team that draws little interest from scouts vs. playing on an A team where you would get seen and perhaps stand out as an older, more experienced player (especially during this transition). Still, these players shouldn't take anything for granted and talk to their coaches and colleges they are interested in to find out what's the best path.

Nobody believes the nonsense you're selling.

Unfortunately anyone that listens to you about playing down will regret it when their kid gets to recruitment age.

You protest so much that your credibility is nil.

Your constant harping to make playing by grade as an unwritten rule is more than you wanting to be right, it has been in the phase of you needing to be right for months. Needing to sandbag August by playing up a year by whatever means necessary to make your dear girl the oldest. So she can benefit the most from RAE.

No clue what you're talking about + I think rae is garbage.

Then why do you need August kids to be the youngest? Is it for your Sept girl to be oldest?

Again, no clue.

You dont want Aug birthdays playing down for college recruiting and clubs dont want 9th grade players on 8th grade teams. For boys you dont want players playing down in SY leagues if they intend to play in MLSN1 which will stay BY.

Everyone sees where this is going to go but you.

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Anonymous wrote:One data point: A Top ECNL boy club. One late boomer Aug kid on 8th grade, having little time playing time on the 2012 team is asked by the head coach to play on the 2013 team (Same coach) starting from July. And parents pretty happy about it

This makes no sense.

An Aug 2012 will be playing up a year right now in BY. When BY changes to SY depending on when the school district starts they will either be rostered on a 2013 team thats their grade in school OR they would be rostered on a 2014 team a grade down. In the second situation Aug birthdays play up a year so they're playing on the 2013 team thats their grade in school.

What you're trying to make sound negative is whats supposed to happen switching from BY to SY.

The way I read it is the player is Aug 2012, been playing BY 2012. Now they have a choice to play with the current 2013s, which next year will be a mix of late 2012s and early 2013s. The Aug player will get more playing time now because they will be one of the oldest.

Maybe, it's probably fair to assume that a player used to playing up will do well if changed to playing on a team thats their grade in school. But you never know.

When it comes to college recruiting it will be much easier to get noticed playing on a team thats your grade in school. This goes both ways (playing up and down) although playing up can be beneficial if marketed correctly. What most people dont understand is that theres a rhythm with recruiting and college coaches. 90% of looking at/for players occurs Sophmore year. If you're misaligned either way college coaches tend to overlook you. Sure you can reach out to XYZ coach or depend on promotion from your club. But you're not in alignment with college coach processes and procedures which just makes things harder.

Here is an example, play on age, perform well, get motivated, go to Id sessions, contact college coaches, go to more ID sessions, get good grades, get an offer. Age group doesn't matter, being the best player you can be matters. No such thing as " harder" or easier recruiting. They take foreign players and transfers.

Stamp your feet and cry all you want but Aug birthdays playing down a grade is a serious challenge with college recruiting.

It's a logistical challenge, but it remains to be seen how "serious" it is. You definitely are in the doom and gloom camp for those players.

Theres 2 factors you can count on.

1. College coaches will have a lot of players to choose from
2. College coaches have limited time to review players

Anything odd or non standard (aug birthdays playing down a grade) adds an unknown into the equation. If theres 10 equivalent options that dont have that unknown this is who they'll pick.

Hence, a potential logistical challenge. BUT coaches deal with all sorts of these uneven situations now since BY teams are basically 2 grades as others have noted with transfers, international students, etc. Heck, coaches still go to HS games to watch potential recruits, fields full of players from different grades. And coaches are less likely to be concerned if there watching these players at a top level club.

At the end of the day, the player needs to what's in their best interest. Playing up to play on grade might mean bench time OR playing on a B team that draws little interest from scouts vs. playing on an A team where you would get seen and perhaps stand out as an older, more experienced player (especially during this transition). Still, these players shouldn't take anything for granted and talk to their coaches and colleges they are interested in to find out what's the best path.

Nobody believes the nonsense you're selling.

Unfortunately anyone that listens to you about playing down will regret it when their kid gets to recruitment age.

You protest so much that your credibility is nil.

Your constant harping to make playing by grade as an unwritten rule is more than you wanting to be right, it has been in the phase of you needing to be right for months. Needing to sandbag August by playing up a year by whatever means necessary to make your dear girl the oldest. So she can benefit the most from RAE.

No clue what you're talking about + I think rae is garbage.

Then why do you need August kids to be the youngest? Is it for your Sept girl to be oldest?

Again, no clue.

You dont want Aug birthdays playing down for college recruiting and clubs dont want 9th grade players on 8th grade teams. For boys you dont want players playing down in SY leagues if they intend to play in MLSN1 which will stay BY.

Everyone sees where this is going to go but you.

You don't want August kids being older than your daughter. No way you are a good Samaritan offering useful advice. Just a garden variety lunatic telling others how to life their lives when it is no of your business. Your advice hasn't had backing. College coaches said they don't care your age, they take transfers and foreign players. The oldest are in the cat birds seat.

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Anonymous wrote:One data point: A Top ECNL boy club. One late boomer Aug kid on 8th grade, having little time playing time on the 2012 team is asked by the head coach to play on the 2013 team (Same coach) starting from July. And parents pretty happy about it

This makes no sense.

An Aug 2012 will be playing up a year right now in BY. When BY changes to SY depending on when the school district starts they will either be rostered on a 2013 team thats their grade in school OR they would be rostered on a 2014 team a grade down. In the second situation Aug birthdays play up a year so they're playing on the 2013 team thats their grade in school.

What you're trying to make sound negative is whats supposed to happen switching from BY to SY.

The way I read it is the player is Aug 2012, been playing BY 2012. Now they have a choice to play with the current 2013s, which next year will be a mix of late 2012s and early 2013s. The Aug player will get more playing time now because they will be one of the oldest.

Maybe, it's probably fair to assume that a player used to playing up will do well if changed to playing on a team thats their grade in school. But you never know.

When it comes to college recruiting it will be much easier to get noticed playing on a team thats your grade in school. This goes both ways (playing up and down) although playing up can be beneficial if marketed correctly. What most people dont understand is that theres a rhythm with recruiting and college coaches. 90% of looking at/for players occurs Sophmore year. If you're misaligned either way college coaches tend to overlook you. Sure you can reach out to XYZ coach or depend on promotion from your club. But you're not in alignment with college coach processes and procedures which just makes things harder.

Here is an example, play on age, perform well, get motivated, go to Id sessions, contact college coaches, go to more ID sessions, get good grades, get an offer. Age group doesn't matter, being the best player you can be matters. No such thing as " harder" or easier recruiting. They take foreign players and transfers.

Stamp your feet and cry all you want but Aug birthdays playing down a grade is a serious challenge with college recruiting.

It's a logistical challenge, but it remains to be seen how "serious" it is. You definitely are in the doom and gloom camp for those players.

Theres 2 factors you can count on.

1. College coaches will have a lot of players to choose from
2. College coaches have limited time to review players

Anything odd or non standard (aug birthdays playing down a grade) adds an unknown into the equation. If theres 10 equivalent options that dont have that unknown this is who they'll pick.

Hence, a potential logistical challenge. BUT coaches deal with all sorts of these uneven situations now since BY teams are basically 2 grades as others have noted with transfers, international students, etc. Heck, coaches still go to HS games to watch potential recruits, fields full of players from different grades. And coaches are less likely to be concerned if there watching these players at a top level club.

At the end of the day, the player needs to what's in their best interest. Playing up to play on grade might mean bench time OR playing on a B team that draws little interest from scouts vs. playing on an A team where you would get seen and perhaps stand out as an older, more experienced player (especially during this transition). Still, these players shouldn't take anything for granted and talk to their coaches and colleges they are interested in to find out what's the best path.

Nobody believes the nonsense you're selling.

Unfortunately anyone that listens to you about playing down will regret it when their kid gets to recruitment age.

You protest so much that your credibility is nil.

Your constant harping to make playing by grade as an unwritten rule is more than you wanting to be right, it has been in the phase of you needing to be right for months. Needing to sandbag August by playing up a year by whatever means necessary to make your dear girl the oldest. So she can benefit the most from RAE.

No clue what you're talking about + I think rae is garbage.

Then why do you need August kids to be the youngest? Is it for your Sept girl to be oldest?

Again, no clue.

You dont want Aug birthdays playing down for college recruiting and clubs dont want 9th grade players on 8th grade teams. For boys you dont want players playing down in SY leagues if they intend to play in MLSN1 which will stay BY.

Everyone sees where this is going to go but you.

You don't want August kids being older than your daughter. No way you are a good Samaritan offering useful advice. Just a garden variety lunatic telling others how to life their lives when it is no of your business. Your advice hasn't had backing. College coaches said they don't care your age, they take transfers and foreign players. The oldest are in the cat birds seat.

College coaches recruit by graduating year (grade in school) nothing else matters.

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Anonymous wrote:I think reality is finally starting to sink into age guys head. He's starting to realize that playing down isnt a golden ticket to an A team.

There is no age person because people can't pick and choose their kids age categories like ordering a pizza. People aren't giving people advice. They are saying what is happening. Leagues said 8/1 - 7/31 except MLSN1. Clubs said only best play up. College coaches said they don't care about your age group, just be good and have good grades. No advice, just facts.

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Anonymous wrote:One data point: A Top ECNL boy club. One late boomer Aug kid on 8th grade, having little time playing time on the 2012 team is asked by the head coach to play on the 2013 team (Same coach) starting from July. And parents pretty happy about it

This makes no sense.

An Aug 2012 will be playing up a year right now in BY. When BY changes to SY depending on when the school district starts they will either be rostered on a 2013 team thats their grade in school OR they would be rostered on a 2014 team a grade down. In the second situation Aug birthdays play up a year so they're playing on the 2013 team thats their grade in school.

What you're trying to make sound negative is whats supposed to happen switching from BY to SY.

The way I read it is the player is Aug 2012, been playing BY 2012. Now they have a choice to play with the current 2013s, which next year will be a mix of late 2012s and early 2013s. The Aug player will get more playing time now because they will be one of the oldest.

Maybe, it's probably fair to assume that a player used to playing up will do well if changed to playing on a team thats their grade in school. But you never know.

When it comes to college recruiting it will be much easier to get noticed playing on a team thats your grade in school. This goes both ways (playing up and down) although playing up can be beneficial if marketed correctly. What most people dont understand is that theres a rhythm with recruiting and college coaches. 90% of looking at/for players occurs Sophmore year. If you're misaligned either way college coaches tend to overlook you. Sure you can reach out to XYZ coach or depend on promotion from your club. But you're not in alignment with college coach processes and procedures which just makes things harder.

Here is an example, play on age, perform well, get motivated, go to Id sessions, contact college coaches, go to more ID sessions, get good grades, get an offer. Age group doesn't matter, being the best player you can be matters. No such thing as " harder" or easier recruiting. They take foreign players and transfers.

Stamp your feet and cry all you want but Aug birthdays playing down a grade is a serious challenge with college recruiting.

It's a logistical challenge, but it remains to be seen how "serious" it is. You definitely are in the doom and gloom camp for those players.

Theres 2 factors you can count on.

1. College coaches will have a lot of players to choose from
2. College coaches have limited time to review players

Anything odd or non standard (aug birthdays playing down a grade) adds an unknown into the equation. If theres 10 equivalent options that dont have that unknown this is who they'll pick.

Hence, a potential logistical challenge. BUT coaches deal with all sorts of these uneven situations now since BY teams are basically 2 grades as others have noted with transfers, international students, etc. Heck, coaches still go to HS games to watch potential recruits, fields full of players from different grades. And coaches are less likely to be concerned if there watching these players at a top level club.

At the end of the day, the player needs to what's in their best interest. Playing up to play on grade might mean bench time OR playing on a B team that draws little interest from scouts vs. playing on an A team where you would get seen and perhaps stand out as an older, more experienced player (especially during this transition). Still, these players shouldn't take anything for granted and talk to their coaches and colleges they are interested in to find out what's the best path.

Nobody believes the nonsense you're selling.

Unfortunately anyone that listens to you about playing down will regret it when their kid gets to recruitment age.

You protest so much that your credibility is nil.

Your constant harping to make playing by grade as an unwritten rule is more than you wanting to be right, it has been in the phase of you needing to be right for months. Needing to sandbag August by playing up a year by whatever means necessary to make your dear girl the oldest. So she can benefit the most from RAE.

No clue what you're talking about + I think rae is garbage.

Then why do you need August kids to be the youngest? Is it for your Sept girl to be oldest?

Again, no clue.

You dont want Aug birthdays playing down for college recruiting and clubs dont want 9th grade players on 8th grade teams. For boys you dont want players playing down in SY leagues if they intend to play in MLSN1 which will stay BY.

Everyone sees where this is going to go but you.

You don't want August kids being older than your daughter. No way you are a good Samaritan offering useful advice. Just a garden variety lunatic telling others how to life their lives when it is no of your business. Your advice hasn't had backing. College coaches said they don't care your age, they take transfers and foreign players. The oldest are in the cat birds seat.

College coaches recruit by graduating year (grade in school) nothing else matters.

Yeah, where you play or played kid ball on whatever age group doesn't matter.

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Anonymous wrote:I think reality is finally starting to sink into age guys head. He's starting to realize that playing down isnt a golden ticket to an A team.

There is no age person because people can't pick and choose their kids age categories like ordering a pizza. People aren't giving people advice. They are saying what is happening. Leagues said 8/1 - 7/31 except MLSN1. Clubs said only best play up. College coaches said they don't care about your age group, just be good and have good grades. No advice, just facts.

Heres a fact. If August birthdays choose to play on a grade down club team they will be ignored by college coaches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think reality is finally starting to sink into age guys head. He's starting to realize that playing down isnt a golden ticket to an A team.

There is no age person because people can't pick and choose their kids age categories like ordering a pizza. People aren't giving people advice. They are saying what is happening. Leagues said 8/1 - 7/31 except MLSN1. Clubs said only best play up. College coaches said they don't care about your age group, just be good and have good grades. No advice, just facts.

Heres a fact. If August birthdays choose to play on a grade down club team they will be ignored by college coaches.

“Here’s an opinion” is what I believe you meant to say.

If it as strong as a fact as you say it is and I was educated improperly on facts vs opinions, I work for the State of Virginia. We can wager your future pension vs an initial powerball winnings.

This should be a no brainer for you Mr. or Ms. Fact. Start a random email address to begin the engagement to set it up. I’m really serious.

We can publicize it on the news. The sales proceeds on the commercials during the segment will go to Virginia Youth Soccer.

Ready to test your fact?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think reality is finally starting to sink into age guys head. He's starting to realize that playing down isnt a golden ticket to an A team.

There is no age person because people can't pick and choose their kids age categories like ordering a pizza. People aren't giving people advice. They are saying what is happening. Leagues said 8/1 - 7/31 except MLSN1. Clubs said only best play up. College coaches said they don't care about your age group, just be good and have good grades. No advice, just facts.

Heres a fact. If August birthdays choose to play on a grade down club team they will be ignored by college coaches.

You're such a drama queen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think reality is finally starting to sink into age guys head. He's starting to realize that playing down isnt a golden ticket to an A team.

There is no age person because people can't pick and choose their kids age categories like ordering a pizza. People aren't giving people advice. They are saying what is happening. Leagues said 8/1 - 7/31 except MLSN1. Clubs said only best play up. College coaches said they don't care about your age group, just be good and have good grades. No advice, just facts.

Heres a fact. If August birthdays choose to play on a grade down club team they will be ignored by college coaches.

“Here’s an opinion” is what I believe you meant to say.

If it as strong as a fact as you say it is and I was educated improperly on facts vs opinions, I work for the State of Virginia. We can wager your future pension vs an initial powerball winnings.

This should be a no brainer for you Mr. or Ms. Fact. Start a random email address to begin the engagement to set it up. I’m really serious.

We can publicize it on the news. The sales proceeds on the commercials during the segment will go to Virginia Youth Soccer.

Ready to test your fact?

Bla bla bla. You're just going to find an example where an Aug birthday playing down got a 6k soccer scholorship to a 90k per year private school. Yea you really "won" on that one.

Freerides arent going to players playing down.