Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?

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Anonymous wrote:Currently FCV has the best 05 and older elite girls teams in the area.

This is an rather delusional perception of the NoVa soccer landscape. At U16, BRYC would take FCV. At U17, BRYC and McLean would crush FCV; that FCV team being ranked 20th in the DA is a sign of weakness of that league. At U19, McLean was at least even with FCV this year and next year BRYC will be. Of course, FCV won’t show up to a tourney to play ECNL teams so you can keep living the dream.

Thank you for the laugh.

06: vda beats fcv
05: vda and McLean beat fcv
04: FCV is the best
03: BRYC/McLean beat fcv
03: McLean Beats fcv
02: McLean beats fcv

Lol.

The funniest is the 05.

Not a single 05 from vda or McLean would make fcv.

So you are saying that McLean's whole starting 11 is good but no one is individually great. Did McLean 05 add any new players to roster for next year?

I don't about individual to individual and whether McLean or VDA have 05 that could make the top 18 at FCV 05 but I do know that if FCV played McLean or VDA 05 the score would be ugly in FCV's favor. That is a very very good team. Success in the MA division of ECNL is not indicative of very much. That is very weak conference.

DA atlantic conference 05 is a weak conference.

You might be right about that. But what does it say about the 05 ECNL MA if those ECNL teams would comprise the entirety of the bottom of the 05 DA Atlantic conference? Literally the entire bottom.

They wouldn’t. Would be nice if fcv took a break from beating Long Island and spirit and played a local ecnl team. Keep running Bobby and friends...

Hahahahaha

VDA lost to MUSpirit! Literally the next to last team in the division. VDA is too 3 in MA. VDA would be another doormat in DA, just like they were before they left.

Still this?1-0 on spirit’s only shot of the game from a free kick after vda had 90% possession and missed 2 pk’s. Vda 05/06 never played in the DA. By that logic pda beAting fcv 7-0 means fcv would be an ecnl doormat at 05 (which it absolutely would not be because they are a very good team). You always bring up that one result but neglect the other 99% of the data and 04 and 06 results on the same weekend. Ignorance is bliss.

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Anonymous wrote:Currently FCV has the best 05 and older elite girls teams in the area.

This is an rather delusional perception of the NoVa soccer landscape. At U16, BRYC would take FCV. At U17, BRYC and McLean would crush FCV; that FCV team being ranked 20th in the DA is a sign of weakness of that league. At U19, McLean was at least even with FCV this year and next year BRYC will be. Of course, FCV won’t show up to a tourney to play ECNL teams so you can keep living the dream.

Thank you for the laugh.

06: vda beats fcv
05: vda and McLean beat fcv
04: FCV is the best
03: BRYC/McLean beat fcv
03: McLean Beats fcv
02: McLean beats fcv

Lol.

The funniest is the 05.

Not a single 05 from vda or McLean would make fcv.

So you are saying that McLean's whole starting 11 is good but no one is individually great. Did McLean 05 add any new players to roster for next year?

I don't about individual to individual and whether McLean or VDA have 05 that could make the top 18 at FCV 05 but I do know that if FCV played McLean or VDA 05 the score would be ugly in FCV's favor. That is a very very good team. Success in the MA division of ECNL is not indicative of very much. That is very weak conference.

+1 Very true.

We will never know. Area da, edp, ecnl teams scrimmage each other all the time but FCV won’t. Too busy having sideline brawls to bother playing someone other than ARL or Metro U. FCV 05 picked up a kid cut by one of the area ecnl teams FYI.

Easy there. If you know the player and family, you know she wasn't "cut". She one of, if not there best player. There is one other player that is very good that turned down FCV last year. But those two are 1a and 1b.

Don't fool yourself with "cut".

She was absolutely cut......I understand that doesn't fit your vision of things as her parent, but it is true nonetheless.......

Well lucky for FCV. Hope those NVSC players fill the void

Don’t you mean lucky for bryc? That was quite the trick you pulled.

Different player grasshopper

Sort of kimosabi. Only sort of.

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Anonymous wrote:Currently FCV has the best 05 and older elite girls teams in the area.

This is an rather delusional perception of the NoVa soccer landscape. At U16, BRYC would take FCV. At U17, BRYC and McLean would crush FCV; that FCV team being ranked 20th in the DA is a sign of weakness of that league. At U19, McLean was at least even with FCV this year and next year BRYC will be. Of course, FCV won’t show up to a tourney to play ECNL teams so you can keep living the dream.

Thank you for the laugh.

06: vda beats fcv
05: vda and McLean beat fcv
04: FCV is the best
03: BRYC/McLean beat fcv
03: McLean Beats fcv
02: McLean beats fcv

Lol.

The funniest is the 05.

Not a single 05 from vda or McLean would make fcv.

So you are saying that McLean's whole starting 11 is good but no one is individually great. Did McLean 05 add any new players to roster for next year?

I don't about individual to individual and whether McLean or VDA have 05 that could make the top 18 at FCV 05 but I do know that if FCV played McLean or VDA 05 the score would be ugly in FCV's favor. That is a very very good team. Success in the MA division of ECNL is not indicative of very much. That is very weak conference.

+1 Very true.

We will never know. Area da, edp, ecnl teams scrimmage each other all the time but FCV won’t. Too busy having sideline brawls to bother playing someone other than ARL or Metro U. FCV 05 picked up a kid cut by one of the area ecnl teams FYI.

Easy there. If you know the player and family, you know she wasn't "cut". She one of, if not there best player. There is one other player that is very good that turned down FCV last year. But those two are 1a and 1b.

Don't fool yourself with "cut".

She was absolutely cut......I understand that doesn't fit your vision of things as her parent, but it is true nonetheless.......

Well lucky for FCV. Hope those NVSC players fill the void

Don’t you mean lucky for bryc? That was quite the trick you pulled.

Different player grasshopper

Sort of kimosabi. Only sort of.

Different players with the same DCUM posting father.

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Still this?1-0 on spirit’s only shot of the game from a free kick after vda had 90% possession and missed 2 pk’s. Vda 05/06 never played in the DA. By that logic pda beAting fcv 7-0 means fcv would be an ecnl doormat at 05 (which it absolutely would not be because they are a very good team). You always bring up that one result but neglect the other 99% of the data and 04 and 06 results on the same weekend. Ignorance is bliss.

Ignorance is in fact bliss. the data shows that VDA 05 is not a strong team without that one player.

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Anonymous wrote:Currently FCV has the best 05 and older elite girls teams in the area.

This is an rather delusional perception of the NoVa soccer landscape. At U16, BRYC would take FCV. At U17, BRYC and McLean would crush FCV; that FCV team being ranked 20th in the DA is a sign of weakness of that league. At U19, McLean was at least even with FCV this year and next year BRYC will be. Of course, FCV won’t show up to a tourney to play ECNL teams so you can keep living the dream.

Thank you for the laugh.

06: vda beats fcv
05: vda and McLean beat fcv
04: FCV is the best
03: BRYC/McLean beat fcv
03: McLean Beats fcv
02: McLean beats fcv

Lol.

The funniest is the 05.

Not a single 05 from vda or McLean would make fcv.

So you are saying that McLean's whole starting 11 is good but no one is individually great. Did McLean 05 add any new players to roster for next year?

I don't about individual to individual and whether McLean or VDA have 05 that could make the top 18 at FCV 05 but I do know that if FCV played McLean or VDA 05 the score would be ugly in FCV's favor. That is a very very good team. Success in the MA division of ECNL is not indicative of very much. That is very weak conference.

+1 Very true.

We will never know. Area da, edp, ecnl teams scrimmage each other all the time but FCV won’t. Too busy having sideline brawls to bother playing someone other than ARL or Metro U. FCV 05 picked up a kid cut by one of the area ecnl teams FYI.

Easy there. If you know the player and family, you know she wasn't "cut". She one of, if not there best player. There is one other player that is very good that turned down FCV last year. But those two are 1a and 1b.

Don't fool yourself with "cut".

She was absolutely cut......I understand that doesn't fit your vision of things as her parent, but it is true nonetheless.......

Well lucky for FCV. Hope those NVSC players fill the void

Don’t you mean lucky for bryc? That was quite the trick you pulled.

Different player grasshopper

Sort of kimosabi. Only sort of.

Different players with the same DCUM posting father.

Clearly +1

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Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.

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Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.

Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.

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Still this?1-0 on spirit’s only shot of the game from a free kick after vda had 90% possession and missed 2 pk’s. Vda 05/06 never played in the DA. By that logic pda beAting fcv 7-0 means fcv would be an ecnl doormat at 05 (which it absolutely would not be because they are a very good team). You always bring up that one result but neglect the other 99% of the data and 04 and 06 results on the same weekend. Ignorance is bliss.

Ignorance is in fact bliss. the data shows that VDA 05 is not a strong team without that one player.

+1

The MA ECNL is WEAK! VDA teams couldn't compete at ANY age group when in the DA. Yes, the 05 team was not DA last year, but they would still be a doormat. See MUSpirit loss. PDA isn't in the MA and they are the #1 team in the country. Tough loss but I would bet if the teams played again the results would NOT be the same.

VDA, not so much. They will take a step back next year. Just wait for it!

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Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.

Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.

That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.

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Anonymous wrote:Say what you want about McLean 05 but to go from the bottom of MA to 2nd place after losing 1/3 or more of the team is impressive. Also, you need to acknowledge that the team finished as a finalist at the Jefferson Cup Champions Division losing a close match to MRM Rush in the finals. The is heading to ECNL nationals. I am not an MYS ECNL parent but have watched the team play. They play great soccer which is a result of great training.

I’ve watched Clyde’s team for years. MYS 05 is a good team and gets wins but they are parking the bus. I wonder if they play a more positive style with addition of new players.

Will be interesting to watch. Wonder who was dropped as they had 18 before.

I think the new players give them strength on the attacking side for sure. Former ODFC players.

They didn’t drop any. Older ages at McLean have huge rosters.

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Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.

Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.

That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.

Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.

Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.

That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.

Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.

Bobby, kids are still more likely to stay at their starting club more than ever because the social aspect still matters to girls. If they have a role and minutes they are going to be fine. Top 5 kids are going to be fine. The end game for most kids is not the National Team. You will find local kids near the St James to fill the vacancies the Loudoun kids who leave open up.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.

Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.

That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.

Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.

True. But one added item. If you are training at one or two age groups up then your environment is different.

Personally I do not believe this area is properly equipped to develop the kids to their highest potential. That is part on the clubs and part on the parents. The parents tend to either be too cowardly in their handlings with clubs and coaches or they are delusional in their opinions of their child, and clubs bend to demanding parents simply to store talent, or joystick in order to win thereby hampering critical decision making, development. And by the time anybody realizes it, well it’s too late. It’s u16 and now your playing west coast clubs, Texas clubs etc and seeing what could have been.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.

Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.

That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.

Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.

Bobby, kids are still more likely to stay at their starting club more than ever because the social aspect still matters to girls. If they have a role and minutes they are going to be fine. Top 5 kids are going to be fine. The end game for most kids is not the National Team. You will find local kids near the St James to fill the vacancies the Loudoun kids who leave open up.

+1. Exactly right

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Still this?1-0 on spirit’s only shot of the game from a free kick after vda had 90% possession and missed 2 pk’s. Vda 05/06 never played in the DA. By that logic pda beAting fcv 7-0 means fcv would be an ecnl doormat at 05 (which it absolutely would not be because they are a very good team). You always bring up that one result but neglect the other 99% of the data and 04 and 06 results on the same weekend. Ignorance is bliss.

Ignorance is in fact bliss. the data shows that VDA 05 is not a strong team without that one player.

Good one, MB.