Girls DA/ECNL in VA: who will survive?

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Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.


Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.


That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.


Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.



Bobby, kids are still more likely to stay at their starting club more than ever because the social aspect still matters to girls. If they have a role and minutes they are going to be fine. Top 5 kids are going to be fine. The end game for most kids is not the National Team. You will find local kids near the St James to fill the vacancies the Loudoun kids who leave open up.


Nothing is more fun than seeing folks peg posts as Bobby’s. His posts or not the notion that he’s even lurking/posting here tells you all you need to know.
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Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.


Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.


That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.


Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.



True. But one added item. If you are training at one or two age groups up then your environment is different.

Personally I do not believe this area is properly equipped to develop the kids to their highest potential. That is part on the clubs and part on the parents. The parents tend to either be too cowardly in their handlings with clubs and coaches or they are delusional in their opinions of their child, and clubs bend to demanding parents simply to store talent, or joystick in order to win thereby hampering critical decision making, development. And by the time anybody realizes it, well it’s too late. It’s u16 and now your playing west coast clubs, Texas clubs etc and seeing what could have been.


Agree with everything you've added.
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Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.


Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.


That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.


Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.



Bobby, kids are still more likely to stay at their starting club more than ever because the social aspect still matters to girls. If they have a role and minutes they are going to be fine. Top 5 kids are going to be fine. The end game for most kids is not the National Team. You will find local kids near the St James to fill the vacancies the Loudoun kids who leave open up.


Nothing is more fun than seeing folks peg posts as Bobby’s. His posts or not the notion that he’s even lurking/posting here tells you all you need to know.


The posters that attribute posts to Bobby are the one's that know the least about what needs to be discussed to improve youth soccer. Because they see things through only their ignorant lens and can't comprehend that there are parents that actually know enough to post intelligent thoughts here.

Signed,
Not BP
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.


Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.


That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.


Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.



100% Truth - And I'm not BP.
This concept goes for any sport. You want to be the best, you have to train and play against the best. All the time.
And while the top 1-5 may have a slower development curve, DA clubs routinely play against the older teams.
I've seen this in multiple sports...give back to the younger by playing them and play up to the older for development.
Being on the field for 80 or 90 minutes, while "fun" is not your best developer of talent. A kid may get 100 touches if lucky during a game.
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Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.


Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.


That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.


Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.



Bobby, kids are still more likely to stay at their starting club more than ever because the social aspect still matters to girls. If they have a role and minutes they are going to be fine. Top 5 kids are going to be fine. The end game for most kids is not the National Team. You will find local kids near the St James to fill the vacancies the Loudoun kids who leave open up.


Nothing is more fun than seeing folks peg posts as Bobby’s. His posts or not the notion that he’s even lurking/posting here tells you all you need to know.


The posters that attribute posts to Bobby are the one's that know the least about what needs to be discussed to improve youth soccer. Because they see things through only their ignorant lens and can't comprehend that there are parents that actually know enough to post intelligent thoughts here.

Signed,
Not BP


+1
It is the parents that ARE the problem thinking they know better. I feel sorry for their kids.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.


Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.


That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.


Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.



Bobby, kids are still more likely to stay at their starting club more than ever because the social aspect still matters to girls. If they have a role and minutes they are going to be fine. Top 5 kids are going to be fine. The end game for most kids is not the National Team. You will find local kids near the St James to fill the vacancies the Loudoun kids who leave open up.


Nothing is more fun than seeing folks peg posts as Bobby’s. His posts or not the notion that he’s even lurking/posting here tells you all you need to know.


These are Bobby talking points and whether Bobby or a Bobby disciple it is still just as self serving and just as blind to the realities of the emerging soccer market.
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Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.


Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.


That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.


Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.



Bobby, kids are still more likely to stay at their starting club more than ever because the social aspect still matters to girls. If they have a role and minutes they are going to be fine. Top 5 kids are going to be fine. The end game for most kids is not the National Team. You will find local kids near the St James to fill the vacancies the Loudoun kids who leave open up.


Nothing is more fun than seeing folks peg posts as Bobby’s. His posts or not the notion that he’s even lurking/posting here tells you all you need to know.


These are Bobby talking points and whether Bobby or a Bobby disciple it is still just as self serving and just as blind to the realities of the emerging soccer market.


Ok. I will play.

Please educate us with the realities of the emerging soccer market. Can you please be thorough and stay on point so that we can clearly understand?
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Most of the folks on here are hacks. I am not from FCV but the club's success speaks for itself. We can discuss which club is best for an individual kid but if a kid can make the top squad and get major playing time at McLean or FCV, the parents would be crazy not to give that offer serious consideration. If your kid is a B or C player with aspirations of playing in college, I would consider other options before going to any big club, including FCV or McLean. You are better off playing for a smaller club with a solid coach and making the move to the top team of a big club later.

ECNL and DA will remain relevant unless the HS option changes. If DA allows HS, ECNL might fold. There is zero need for two elite leagues. In the area, places like McLean, FCV and Bethesda will remain the leading clubs because they have a track record of delivering players to top clubs.
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Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.


Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.


That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.


Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.



Bobby, kids are still more likely to stay at their starting club more than ever because the social aspect still matters to girls. If they have a role and minutes they are going to be fine. Top 5 kids are going to be fine. The end game for most kids is not the National Team. You will find local kids near the St James to fill the vacancies the Loudoun kids who leave open up.


Nothing is more fun than seeing folks peg posts as Bobby’s. His posts or not the notion that he’s even lurking/posting here tells you all you need to know.


These are Bobby talking points and whether Bobby or a Bobby disciple it is still just as self serving and just as blind to the realities of the emerging soccer market.


Ok. I will play.

Please educate us with the realities of the emerging soccer market. Can you please be thorough and stay on point so that we can clearly understand?


I'll wait for this one as well.

Continue OP!
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Anonymous wrote:Most of the folks on here are hacks. I am not from FCV but the club's success speaks for itself. We can discuss which club is best for an individual kid but if a kid can make the top squad and get major playing time at McLean or FCV, the parents would be crazy not to give that offer serious consideration. If your kid is a B or C player with aspirations of playing in college, I would consider other options before going to any big club, including FCV or McLean. You are better off playing for a smaller club with a solid coach and making the move to the top team of a big club later.

ECNL and DA will remain relevant unless the HS option changes. If DA allows HS, ECNL might fold. There is zero need for two elite leagues. In the area, places like McLean, FCV and Bethesda will remain the leading clubs because they have a track record of delivering players to top clubs.


The FACT that clubs like FCV received very little outside interest demonstrates that your analysis is 5 years old. Younger age groups are seeing kids staying put due to other options.

If FCV is to continue to stay on top it needs to sell more than arrogance because kids have choices they didn’t have 3 years ago and it is showing itself starting with the 07 age group.
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Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.


Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.


That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.


Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.



Bobby, kids are still more likely to stay at their starting club more than ever because the social aspect still matters to girls. If they have a role and minutes they are going to be fine. Top 5 kids are going to be fine. The end game for most kids is not the National Team. You will find local kids near the St James to fill the vacancies the Loudoun kids who leave open up.


Nothing is more fun than seeing folks peg posts as Bobby’s. His posts or not the notion that he’s even lurking/posting here tells you all you need to know.


These are Bobby talking points and whether Bobby or a Bobby disciple it is still just as self serving and just as blind to the realities of the emerging soccer market.


Ok. I will play.

Please educate us with the realities of the emerging soccer market. Can you please be thorough and stay on point so that we can clearly understand?


Still waiting...
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Anonymous wrote:Most of the folks on here are hacks. I am not from FCV but the club's success speaks for itself. We can discuss which club is best for an individual kid but if a kid can make the top squad and get major playing time at McLean or FCV, the parents would be crazy not to give that offer serious consideration. If your kid is a B or C player with aspirations of playing in college, I would consider other options before going to any big club, including FCV or McLean. You are better off playing for a smaller club with a solid coach and making the move to the top team of a big club later.

ECNL and DA will remain relevant unless the HS option changes. If DA allows HS, ECNL might fold. There is zero need for two elite leagues. In the area, places like McLean, FCV and Bethesda will remain the leading clubs because they have a track record of delivering players to top clubs.


The FACT that clubs like FCV received very little outside interest demonstrates that your analysis is 5 years old. Younger age groups are seeing kids staying put due to other options.

If FCV is to continue to stay on top it needs to sell more than arrogance because kids have choices they didn’t have 3 years ago and it is showing itself starting with the 07 age group.


You do know that quality players try out there throughout the year, even as recently as last night.

FCV will pick up 1-2 players of quality at a time, all while expanding the base with STJ U8-U12 teams.

The club doesn't bring in wholesale groups of D1 talent at a time, it develops players internally while carefully selecting externals to come in.

Nothing is going to change that.
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Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.


Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.


That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.


Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.



Bobby, kids are still more likely to stay at their starting club more than ever because the social aspect still matters to girls. If they have a role and minutes they are going to be fine. Top 5 kids are going to be fine. The end game for most kids is not the National Team. You will find local kids near the St James to fill the vacancies the Loudoun kids who leave open up.


Nothing is more fun than seeing folks peg posts as Bobby’s. His posts or not the notion that he’s even lurking/posting here tells you all you need to know.


These are Bobby talking points and whether Bobby or a Bobby disciple it is still just as self serving and just as blind to the realities of the emerging soccer market.


Ok. I will play.

Please educate us with the realities of the emerging soccer market. Can you please be thorough and stay on point so that we can clearly understand?


Still waiting...


and waiting...
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Still this?1-0 on spirit’s only shot of the game from a free kick after vda had 90% possession and missed 2 pk’s. Vda 05/06 never played in the DA. By that logic pda beAting fcv 7-0 means fcv would be an ecnl doormat at 05 (which it absolutely would not be because they are a very good team). You always bring up that one result but neglect the other 99% of the data and 04 and 06 results on the same weekend. Ignorance is bliss.


Ignorance is in fact bliss. the data shows that VDA 05 is not a strong team without that one player.


Good one, MB.


MB?

If this is someone's initials, bad on you for calling people out.

My initials are NOT MB, but whatever. People talk.
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Anonymous wrote:Arguing about kids soccer. Really? Imagine the kids knew you guys were on here arguing like this. Let them grow and love the game.


Uh huh. Why are you here then? Go away.


That's some grade A philosophy there buddy.

I've been wondering, people seem to love talking team vs team, which really means nothing other then we win & you don't. Okay I get some of that but why never individual players? Or does everyone here really think their kid is top five in the area or even on their own team? Cant possibly. We've all seen these teams, seen how parents react with embarrassment when their kid makes a mistake (instead of understanding the reason for said mistake and seeking training). Which is actually how you learn how to play but that's a different discussion. Parents seem to think they know the game but really all they know is whatever BS they see in a highlight on YouTube or Instagram etc. Most don't seem to recognize that a majority of the DA & ECNL kids below u16 struggle take a ball out of the air to space, among many other things. Ever wonder why our NTC in this area is a joke, you should, cause were all paying for it. But by all means return to the regularly scheduled conversation, you know, wins.........during developmental years...........yay.


Agree, kinda.

The benefit of playing on a top-level team comes from training and playing in a high level environment with all the players involved at a high level. However, too many people equate wins and losses with top-level teams - especially at the younger ages (See Loudoun).

Additionally, for the most competitive of players, if you are a top player playing with players levels below you during training it doesn't matter if you are top 1 or 5 on your team because your development curve is slower as you are not being pushed as much as players 11-18 on the stronger teams. This is clearly only one factor. Quality and quantity of quality training matters a ton and as you said that is a different discussion.



Bobby, kids are still more likely to stay at their starting club more than ever because the social aspect still matters to girls. If they have a role and minutes they are going to be fine. Top 5 kids are going to be fine. The end game for most kids is not the National Team. You will find local kids near the St James to fill the vacancies the Loudoun kids who leave open up.


Nothing is more fun than seeing folks peg posts as Bobby’s. His posts or not the notion that he’s even lurking/posting here tells you all you need to know.


These are Bobby talking points and whether Bobby or a Bobby disciple it is still just as self serving and just as blind to the realities of the emerging soccer market.


Ok. I will play.

Please educate us with the realities of the emerging soccer market. Can you please be thorough and stay on point so that we can clearly understand?


Still waiting...


and waiting...


Need that damn pink bunny gif right now!
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