Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

[Anonymous]

Democrats are absolutely for open borders whether or not most would state that publicaly. It would be political suicide to do so. Instead they give false platitudes about smart border security while also pushing for amnesty and decrying any deportations.

You will never see any democrat state openly that they want open borders in the same way you will never see the president declare himself a white nationalist. You look at the behavior and efforts of both to determine what to believe. So stop with the "show me which democrat has a policy for open borders" you will never find one who will actually say that except AOC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/white-house-proposed-releasing-immigrant-detainees-in-sanctuary-cities-targeting-political-foes/2019/04/11/72839bc8-5c68-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html

White House officials have tried to pressure U.S. immigration authorities to release detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities” to retaliate against President Trump’s political adversaries, according to Department of Homeland Security officials and email messages reviewed by The Washington Post.

Trump administration officials have proposed transporting detained immigrants to sanctuary cities at least twice in the past six months — once in November, as a migrant caravan approached the U.S. southern border, and again in February, amid a standoff with Democrats over funding for Trump’s border wall.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s district in San Francisco was among those the White House wanted to target, according to DHS officials. The administration also considered releasing detainees in other Democratic strongholds.

White House officials first broached the plan in a Nov. 16 email, asking officials at several agencies whether members of the caravan could be arrested at the border and then bused “to small- and mid-sized sanctuary cities,” places where local authorities have refused to hand over illegal immigrants for deportation.

The White House told U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement that the plan was intended to alleviate a shortage of detention space but also served to send a message to Democrats. The attempt at political retribution raised alarm within ICE, with a top official responding that it was rife with budgetary and liability concerns, and noting that “there are PR risks as well.”

After the White House pressed again in February, ICE’s legal department rejected the idea as inappropriate and rebuffed the administration.

I just do not have words to describe my disgust for Trump's capacity for vindictiveness and dangerous fear mongering. When will the country get rid of the monsters in WH. This news is about so many levels of wrongs. Trump wants to use the apprehended immigrants as if they are wild animals to release them in "sanctuary cities" to punish Democrats and blue states!!! WTF!

You have a chance to be Noah ! Build a huge house and take care all the illegals. Democrats have no problem importing illegals so shouldn’t be any problem keeping them in their homes and in their cities.

[Anonymous]

Lets see, Castro is the only candidate with actual immigration positions (rather than empty platitudes):

"Castro is the only Democrat running for president with a detailed immigration plan, and he offered pragmatic ideas for revamping our immigration system. He wants to decriminalize unauthorized border crossings, instead treating them as civil offenses; offer a path to citizenship to "Dreamers" and other undocumented immigrants; and institute a Marshall Plan for Central America to help deter potential asylum-seekers."

Decriminalize illegal immigration = open border
offering a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants -open border
and then on top of that, give central america MORE money.

Its hard to understate how out of touch this is, but at least he's honest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Exactly. Liberals are hypocrites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most.

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Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them! I actually think it's a very intriguing idea. Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible. But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment". Too funny.

TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment. Are you really that dense?

This guy has posted this a million times.

Think of the democratic response like a small child or that annoying person at work who simply wants to argue just to argue. Eventually with the small child, the parent gives in and lets them do the stupid thing they want to do. The child then figures out what they wanted was really stupid. The dumb person at work argues and is granted permission but quickly backtracks when it falls on him to complete the work by actually doing the work. They didn't want the work, they just wanted to complain.

The Trump response is the throwing of the arms in the air and saying, "fine - you don't want to work with me at all so I will thrust the problem onto your shoulders." The dem leadership has backed themselves into a corner on this one.

No - it was specifically a punishment for the budget negotiations for ICE detention beds.

I'm OK bringing these immigrants in to blue areas if the GOP truly supports it. Give them a path to citizenship.

I am all for border security, but if the GOP wants to bring these people into our country, then let's do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump just wants to fill train cars with what he obviously considers to be human trash.

Anyone remember how that went last time someone did it?

Train cars that go to sanctuary cities? Are the liberals there setting up concentration camp?

Why would these sanctuary cities represent themselves as sanctuary but really be planning on extermination?

Explain.

Not PP, but carting bodies around the country for political "punishment" (as it was clearly intended) is disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Exactly. Liberals are hypocrites.

That wasn't WHY they were designated sanctuary cities, but go ahead and send them. That will surely encourage another huge wave of refugees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In 2015 alone Fairfax County had over 3,000 "undocumented' youth "Dumped" on them.

Good. Send more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump just wants to fill train cars with what he obviously considers to be human trash.

Anyone remember how that went last time someone did it?

Train cars that go to sanctuary cities? Are the liberals there setting up concentration camp?

Why would these sanctuary cities represent themselves as sanctuary but really be planning on extermination?

Explain.

Not PP, but carting bodies around the country for political "punishment" (as it was clearly intended) is disgusting.

and AGAIN . . .

1. They are already IN sanctuary cities, as this has been happening now for ages.
2. This is only viewed as a punishment BY liberals, which is confusing to me as a moderate.

How is sending folks to areas that have been welcoming them for ages a punishment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most.

+1,000
Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them! I actually think it's a very intriguing idea. Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible. But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment". Too funny.

TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment. Are you really that dense?

Who cares? YOU don't think it's a punishment, right? Or do you? Which is it?

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It becomes an attack on Trump when he stated the obvious. While ICE isn't going to OFFICIALLY ship newcomers to sanctuary cities, that's where they're headed. Mo Co, for example, is growing in diversity.

Here are some stats:

The population of Montgomery County, MD is 44.5% White, 19.1% Hispanic, and 17.8% Black. 41% of the people in Montgomery County, MD speak a non-English language, and 84.8% are U.S. citizens.

Astute folks notice it in the schools first. Here is a demographic chart of the MCPS schools - https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/annualreport/2017/
Hispanics make up the largest group. Now, you'd need to examine the numbers more closely to see who's in ESOL classes, for example, in order to analyze funding and growth. And those numbers will change from level to level, as there may be more allocated for ES than for HS, for example, depending upon shifts in the population. But we do know that the group is growing, which makes it attractive for those seeking refuge in similar communities.



So while "Trump thinks it's a punishment," as you so eloquently stated, do YOU think it's a punishment, too? That's the question that's been asked again and again on these threads.

The growth is there, folks. Liberal (and mainly coastal) cities will attract newcomers for many reasons. So how is Trump's "punishment" any different from what's ALREADY BEEN in place for YEARS?

I have an issue with his intentions. He intends to punish US citizens. He intends to “stick it to the libs”. It doesn’t matter if it’s actually a punishment or not. The POTUS is looking for ways to punish Dems because they disagreed with ICE funding. This is just one example of his vindictiveness.

His approval in NC is dropping. What if he withholds FEMA funding if they get another massive hurricane over that?

You probably wouldn’t have an issue with that but I would because I don’t think the POTUS should act like a vindictive, hateful a&$hole to any US citizens. But again that’s where we differ. You enjoy any chance to “stick it to the libs”. That is precisely why you put a vindictive, hateful a$$hole in the White House.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump just wants to fill train cars with what he obviously considers to be human trash.

Anyone remember how that went last time someone did it?

Train cars that go to sanctuary cities? Are the liberals there setting up concentration camp?

Why would these sanctuary cities represent themselves as sanctuary but really be planning on extermination?

Explain.

Not PP, but carting bodies around the country for political "punishment" (as it was clearly intended) is disgusting.

and AGAIN . . .

1. They are already IN sanctuary cities, as this has been happening now for ages.
2. This is only viewed as a punishment BY liberals, which is confusing to me as a moderate.

How is sending folks to areas that have been welcoming them for ages a punishment?

Good question -- why does Trump think that it's a punishment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrats are absolutely for open borders whether or not most would state that publicaly. It would be political suicide to do so. Instead they give false platitudes about smart border security while also pushing for amnesty and decrying any deportations.

You will never see any democrat state openly that they want open borders in the same way you will never see the president declare himself a white nationalist. You look at the behavior and efforts of both to determine what to believe. So stop with the "show me which democrat has a policy for open borders" you will never find one who will actually say that except AOC.

This is utterly not true about democrats. Democrats are not for open borders. But, you are right about the white supremacist. The sad part about that is that people voted for their racist grandpa that is losing his mind and all the inhibitions he had earlier in life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Exactly. Liberals are hypocrites.

That wasn't WHY they were designated sanctuary cities, but go ahead and send them. That will surely encourage another huge wave of refugees.

Ok - now we're trying to wordsmith.

Sanctuary cities are INDEED much more hospitable to newcomers. That's a FACT! The availability of resources necessary to provide a comfortable solution for these people is the reason why people come. an added benefit? the ability to track newcomers in case there's another Rockville HS rape incident . . .

EVENTUALLY, MOST will report to friendly areas, which translates into sanctuary cities.

So you can dance around the definition all you want, but liberals created the rules and now you have to learn to live with them.

And I do question what I added in bold. I may be stupid to make an ASSumption, but I'll do it anyway. Is that "threat" one that comes from fear? It appears as though you DON'T want to invite more of "them" in. Am I correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lets see, Castro is the only candidate with actual immigration positions (rather than empty platitudes):

"Castro is the only Democrat running for president with a detailed immigration plan, and he offered pragmatic ideas for revamping our immigration system. He wants to decriminalize unauthorized border crossings, instead treating them as civil offenses; offer a path to citizenship to "Dreamers" and other undocumented immigrants; and institute a Marshall Plan for Central America to help deter potential asylum-seekers."

Decriminalize illegal immigration = open border
offering a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants -open border
and then on top of that, give central america MORE money.

Its hard to understate how out of touch this is, but at least he's honest.

Castro is a moron. He's also pushing reparations. It's all just a stunt to draw attention to his already failed campaign (just like Trump's idiotic "ideas"). There's huge amounts of morons on the right as well. But yes, I agree let's ostracize all the fools that put their narrow political interests over the good.of the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is about using human beings to “retaliate” and as “political retribution” to send a message to Democrats. Using the lives of other as cannon fire to teach a lesson to dear leader’s political enemies. Not to fix a situation, but to be purely spiteful with people.

Aren't sanctuary cities where they are SUPPOSED to be? Mont. Co. is one, according to the link upthread. How is it retaliatory to send newcomers to areas DESIGNED to attract them?

Exactly. Liberals are hypocrites.

That wasn't WHY they were designated sanctuary cities, but go ahead and send them. That will surely encourage another huge wave of refugees.

Ok - now we're trying to wordsmith.

Sanctuary cities are INDEED much more hospitable to newcomers. That's a FACT! The availability of resources necessary to provide a comfortable solution for these people is the reason why people come. an added benefit? the ability to track newcomers in case there's another Rockville HS rape incident . . .

EVENTUALLY, MOST will report to friendly areas, which translates into sanctuary cities.

So you can dance around the definition all you want, but liberals created the rules and now you have to learn to live with them.

And I do question what I added in bold. I may be stupid to make an ASSumption, but I'll do it anyway. Is that "threat" one that comes from fear? It appears as though you DON'T want to invite more of "them" in. Am I correct?

It's not a threat. Just a likely outcome.

Would you consider it a threat? Intentions don't matter, so I'm told. So it's really just how you'd interpret it, right?