Trump wanted to release immigration detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities"

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is an excellent example of what idiots Trump-supporters are. They don't understand what sanctuary cities are. They don't get that using human beings as pawns in political games is wrong. They spew fallacies about what "Democrats want" on immigration based on right-wing propaganda.

Pathetic and deplorable.

I'm not a Trump supporter, but b/c of your attitude (as you reflect the norm), I happily escaped the Ds.

At the root of this issue are two topics: NIMBYism and hypocrisy, which are intertwined.

Sanctuary cities are MUCH MORE receptive with regard to illegal immigration. There are NO guarantees regarding security; that's understood. However, the liberalism in those areas is widespread and thus, accepting.

I can personally speak to Montgomery County, having lived there for a large chunk of my life.

It's a win-win with Nancy Navarro on the County Council and CASA in Wheaton, right? a match made in heaven!

But then something suddenly changed. Trump hastily made another statement about sanctuary cities absorbing illegal immigrants. ICE cleared up the issue, shouting about budgetary constraints and dangers to the immigrants, not to mention the legalities around transporting them.

fine - not the first time Trump put his food in his mouth, right?

But what was amazing were the responses from liberals. Regardless of obstacles facing ICE over this issue, liberals were the first ones to jump on Trump for making this suggestion. Where was the COMPASSION for them? Why didn't any of you jump in and offer solutions? Instead, you attacked Trump for making this suggestion. You didn't worry about those who struggled for weeks to WALK their way to the border.

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But you offered no solutions.

They WILL end up in sanctuary cities. I hope you all know that. So maybe then you'll show some compassion b/c NIMBYism and hypocrisy are ugly, especially for die-hard liberals.

This is not about NIMBYism. This is about you don't just take human beings and randomly dump them in some city. Are there support systems in place for these people? Where will they stay?

Trump did put his foot in his mouth. So did you. You just proved my point.

Yes, we need solutions. Are the GOP prepared to put aside their fight for a stupid wall and talk about common sense solutions?

Are you kidding? That is exactly what is happening now.

We're in MCPS and we see these families coming to the school system in droves. Of course there are support systems in place. That's why they come here!

They stay in SFHs, where they live 4 families to one home. We've been seeing this in our middle class neighborhood for the past 5 years. They get healthcare from the state, a free education for the kids and help from CASA.

Why would that be any different because Trump wants to do it?

And, how is this proposal any different from what the Democrats want - Open Borders?

I haven’t read any Democrats support open borders. Can you please share a link that isn’t a tweet from supreme leader?

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/democrats-and-open-borders-the-budget-is-the-policy/

That’s an opinion article, not a position or a policy.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey Jack hat PP!

Have you read any of the other threads on this?

Democrats DO NOT SUPPORT OPEN BORDERS!

How many times do I have to type this before it registers in your pea brain?

Better tune into something aside from Tucker.

COMPREHENSIVE IMMAGRATION REFORM!

Turtle neck McConnell and "Lindsey" Graham are fing the country up for everyone along with your dear leader who seems to be missing a brain.

#BeBest

I pray we all survive this so called "presidency."

No one has any idea who you're talking to. Not that it matters, because you're clearly unhinged anyway.

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Let’s invade Mexico and the rest of Central America and make them part of the US. That will solve the illegal immigration problem immediately by default. After executing all the drug lords and corrupt policia, then let’s have all US citizens personally go help all the poor people we will have inheritied by requiring prior citizens to have a newly acquired Latino family live in their home and eat their food for free until they can find a legal job paying minimum wage. Any prior citizen’s family income over $75k will be forfeited to the US government and go into an “integration” fund for helping out under privileged people acquired as a result of our usurpation of Central America. Anyone complaining about this policy will be shot on site, partially to tamp down discord and partially to solve for overpopulation in our new welfare state. Sound good?

Here’s the real question, how many of the “horrified” posters on this forum are getting off their ass to go help an illegal immigrant detainee family in the next week? Yeah ... that’s what I thought. Hypocrites.

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t sound like Stephen Miller was looking out for their well-being.

““It was basically an idea that Miller wanted that nobody else wanted to carry out,” said one congressional investigator who has spoken to one of the whistleblowers. “What happened here is that Stephen Miller called people at ICE, said if they’re going to cut funding, you’ve got to make sure you’re releasing people in Pelosi’s district and other congressional districts.” The investigator spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect the whistleblower.”

“It was during that mid-February standoff that one whistleblower went to Congress alleging that the White House was considering a plan to punish Democrats if they did not relent on ICE funding for beds. A second official independently came forward after that.

According to both, there were at least two versions of the plan being considered. One was to move migrants who were already in ICE detention to the districts of Democratic opponents. The second option was to bus migrants apprehended at the border to sanctuary cities, such as New York, Chicago and San Francisco.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/white-house-proposed-releasing-immigrant-detainees-in-sanctuary-cities-targeting-political-foes/2019/04/11/72839bc8-5c68-11e9-9625-01d48d50ef75_story.html

These plans were not meant to help immigrants...they were meant to PUNISH US citizens.

You all keep using words like "punish." Its not a punishment if you want them to come. He knows you want them to come. The cities/state's own laws have declared that these people are a delight. Your assertion that this is a punishment is off when they've stated explicitly that these people are a joy.

Precisely. Funny that only now, when there's a real chance these immigrants could be living en masse in these cities, do liberals think it would be "punishment". So many examples of liberal hypocrisy, and this is one of the best. Nice work, liberals!

Hey morons. TRUMP THINKS IT IS A PUNISHMENT. That is the issue.

Yes, you have repeated this ad nauseum. But why would you care what Trump thinks? You hate the man. Instead, you should be rising to the occasion to prove to everyone how selfless and giving you are. Right?

Not that you really care since you just want to “stick it to the libs”, but I’ll say again...

I have an issue with his intentions. He intends to punish US citizens. He intends to “stick it to the libs”. It doesn’t matter if it’s a punishment or not. The POTUS is looking for ways to punish Dems because they disagreed with ICE funding. This is just one example of his vindictiveness.

His approval in NC is dropping. What if he withholds FEMA funding if they get another massive hurricane over that?

You probably wouldn’t have an issue with that but I would because I don’t think the POTUS should act like a vindictive, hateful a&$hole to any US citizens. But again that’s where we differ. You enjoy any chance to “stick it to the libs”. That is precisely why you put a vindictive, hateful a$$hole in the White House.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I agree with Trump sticking it to the libs. It shows thei hypocrisy of the sanctuary city and resist policies.

OK - thank you for finally answering.

Dp. He is putting their money where their mouth is. I honestly do not understand this backlash.

Same. And I think most Trump supporters would agree.

Just to recap. Trump supporters fully this this because it’s “sticking it to the libs”.

I'm curious: why don't YOU support this? After all, you love the idea of bringing immigrants into this country, right? So what's the problem?

Yes, let’s bring ALL of the immigrants to the blue areas. Good idea. More Dem voters. Build our economy with additional workers.

And by bringing in those immigrants in with the full support of the GOP I’m sure we will encourage even more refugees to take the trip. Although I bet the GOP might even send buses down to ensure safer passage for those families.

And we can save tons of money on the wall and border security. Just have a steady stream of new workers heading to the blue areas.

Win-win.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a progressive who was a staffer on the Hill and I find this kind of funny.

We need to remember these tactics so when we are back in power, we can troll the other side just as hard.

What tactic. You loved illegal immigration until you didn't?

PP you are quoting - the tactic of finding 'pain-points' in the other side and the ruthlessly exploiting them.

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In 2015 alone Fairfax County had over 3,000 "undocumented' youth "Dumped" on them.

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Here you see typical liberal hypocrisy.

Surely, the best thing for these illegals and refugees is to encourage them to live in areas where they are welcome such as in sanctuary cities. I don't understand the consternation of liberals and those in blue states who have advocated supporting these people.

Unless of course the it is a case of welcoming refugees and other illegals for humanitarian reasons but not in my backyard!

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Anonymous wrote:The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most.

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Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them! I actually think it's a very intriguing idea. Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible. But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment". Too funny.

TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment. Are you really that dense?

Who cares? YOU don't think it's a punishment, right? Or do you? Which is it?

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It becomes an attack on Trump when he stated the obvious. While ICE isn't going to OFFICIALLY ship newcomers to sanctuary cities, that's where they're headed. Mo Co, for example, is growing in diversity.

Here are some stats:

The population of Montgomery County, MD is 44.5% White, 19.1% Hispanic, and 17.8% Black. 41% of the people in Montgomery County, MD speak a non-English language, and 84.8% are U.S. citizens.

Astute folks notice it in the schools first. Here is a demographic chart of the MCPS schools - https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/annualreport/2017/
Hispanics make up the largest group. Now, you'd need to examine the numbers more closely to see who's in ESOL classes, for example, in order to analyze funding and growth. And those numbers will change from level to level, as there may be more allocated for ES than for HS, for example, depending upon shifts in the population. But we do know that the group is growing, which makes it attractive for those seeking refuge in similar communities.



So while "Trump thinks it's a punishment," as you so eloquently stated, do YOU think it's a punishment, too? That's the question that's been asked again and again on these threads.

The growth is there, folks. Liberal (and mainly coastal) cities will attract newcomers for many reasons. So how is Trump's "punishment" any different from what's ALREADY BEEN in place for YEARS?

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Trump just wants to fill train cars with what he obviously considers to be human trash.

Anyone remember how that went last time someone did it?

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Anonymous wrote:Here you see typical liberal hypocrisy.

Surely, the best thing for these illegals and refugees is to encourage them to live in areas where they are welcome such as in sanctuary cities. I don't understand the consternation of liberals and those in blue states who have advocated supporting these people.

Unless of course the it is a case of welcoming refugees and other illegals for humanitarian reasons but not in my backyard!

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Anonymous wrote:The President is giving you exactly what you said you welcomed. Remember the signs, the sermons we heard, the taxes we pay, the donations we make, the languages we learned, and hours of volunteering we give? Yeah - he's giving us exactly what we encouraged and support. This community can handle the needs far better than most.

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Don't forget the marches... these immigrants will have the red carpet rolled out for them! I actually think it's a very intriguing idea. Funny how liberals pay lip service to all their "good deed" and virtue signal whenever humanly possible. But when a real opportunity arrives to take in these immigrants, all of a sudden it's "punishment". Too funny.

TRUMP thinks it’s a punishment. Are you really that dense?

This guy has posted this a million times.

Think of the democratic response like a small child or that annoying person at work who simply wants to argue just to argue. Eventually with the small child, the parent gives in and lets them do the stupid thing they want to do. The child then figures out what they wanted was really stupid. The dumb person at work argues and is granted permission but quickly backtracks when it falls on him to complete the work by actually doing the work. They didn't want the work, they just wanted to complain.

The Trump response is the throwing of the arms in the air and saying, "fine - you don't want to work with me at all so I will thrust the problem onto your shoulders." The dem leadership has backed themselves into a corner on this one.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump just wants to fill train cars with what he obviously considers to be human trash.

Anyone remember how that went last time someone did it?

Train cars that go to sanctuary cities? Are the liberals there setting up concentration camp?

Why would these sanctuary cities represent themselves as sanctuary but really be planning on extermination?

Explain.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump just wants to fill train cars with what he obviously considers to be human trash.

Anyone remember how that went last time someone did it?

I am 9:11.

Instead of just spewing out trash yourself, why don't you respond to my post?

And if I'm reading your post correctly, you're comparing Holocaust victims to our "newcomers?" Jews were sentenced to death; the newcomers are being welcomed into cities with resources to help them.

Do you know your history?