Do you consider redshirting cheating?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pp with June birthday - this is at a public school. I have other children there as well so this is not a one-grade reference point

It is always remarkable to me how DCUM is full of anti-redshirt parents whose children are all in classrooms that are far, far off the statistics on age distributions in class. Truly quite remarkable how their snowflakes all landed in such statistically unique environments.

Not really. Like many on DCUM we are very well off and we see this constantly. It would be rare if this was a place where people had different average incomes- as reflected by percentages of wealthy vs poor and redshirting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Logic is not a core competency of the anti-redshirt contingent.

Amazing then that we seem capable of raising kids who can move forward at a normal pace. And amazing to me that people who are SO terrified to have their child called names based upon their mental abilities are so willing to insult the mental capacity of others. Glass houses, and all.

Congratulations. Good for you! So there's no need for you to worry about the pace of other kids moving forward, including whether these other kids, who are not your kids, start kindergarten at age 5 or age 6 -- right?

Sure. I'm not gay so shouldn't care about gay rights. I'm not poor so shouldn't care about equality in public education. I'm on board with how you think!

What's the argument here? I'm not delaying my child's entry to kindergarten so I shouldn't care about delayed entry to kindergarten? I'm not perceiving a problem with that argument.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pp with June birthday - this is at a public school. I have other children there as well so this is not a one-grade reference point

It is always remarkable to me how DCUM is full of anti-redshirt parents whose children are all in classrooms that are far, far off the statistics on age distributions in class. Truly quite remarkable how their snowflakes all landed in such statistically unique environments.

Not really. Like many on DCUM we are very well off and we see this constantly. It would be rare if this was a place where people had different average incomes- as reflected by percentages of wealthy vs poor and redshirting.

No, you don't. You just have an overactive imagination, like most of the anti-redshirt posters on DCUM. Even in wealthy areas, redshirting is statistically irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

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some do and it doesn’t mean they are LD

We're not talking about the rare outliner We are talking about the widespread practice
for ordinary learners. It is cheating.

SN kids benefit from going earlier to have all the services and supports, especially the ones whose parents only use school services and no private pay.

That’s if you believe the school is giving appropriate services with fedelity, which most don’t. students are pushed through and expected to achieve the same standards as all others despite and age difference.

completely agree -- we held back our SN kid and we are still working with the school to provide appropriate services. I don't think sending her on time would've been some sort of panacea.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pp with June birthday - this is at a public school. I have other children there as well so this is not a one-grade reference point

It is always remarkable to me how DCUM is full of anti-redshirt parents whose children are all in classrooms that are far, far off the statistics on age distributions in class. Truly quite remarkable how their snowflakes all landed in such statistically unique environments.

I honestly think its several of the same posters who post over and over on this topic. So perhaps there are a few schools with large numbers of red-shirted kids -- but it certainly hasn't been our experience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp with June birthday - this is at a public school. I have other children there as well so this is not a one-grade reference point

It is always remarkable to me how DCUM is full of anti-redshirt parents whose children are all in classrooms that are far, far off the statistics on age distributions in class. Truly quite remarkable how their snowflakes all landed in such statistically unique environments.

I honestly think its several of the same posters who post over and over on this topic. So perhaps there are a few schools with large numbers of red-shirted kids -- but it certainly hasn't been our experience.

It hasn't been our experience either. Public school in upper Montgomery County.

[Anonymous]

Agree. This is not the case in most NW DC schools. You will get 3-6 in a grade out of 120+ kids. Maybe it’s Virginia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree. This is not the case in most NW DC schools. You will get 3-6 in a grade out of 120+ kids. Maybe it’s Virginia?

No. Only ones I know about were on the cusp--September--and I don't know of that many.

[Anonymous]

The people so up in arms about redshirting as "cheating" reveal themselves to be absurdly competitive about childhood. Meanwhile the parents who actually face this decision invariably are considering only their particular child's needs. We considered (but ultimately did not) redshirting, and believe me, it had nothing to do with trying to get him an advantage. PS if you are also the types of parents who moan about lack of differentiation in K for your "advanced reader," you get an extra special helping of stfu.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The people so up in arms about redshirting as "cheating" reveal themselves to be absurdly competitive about childhood. Meanwhile the parents who actually face this decision invariably are considering only their particular child's needs. We considered (but ultimately did not) redshirting, and believe me, it had nothing to do with trying to get him an advantage. PS if you are also the types of parents who moan about lack of differentiation in K for your "advanced reader," you get an extra special helping of stfu.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Thank you for all of your responses. I should have made my question more clear. All I want to know is whether or not the majority of people will resent for redshirting DS. My goal is to please as many people as possible. So to the PP who said "I think it's cheating, but what do you care what I think?", my answer is that outside approval has always been, and will continue to be, very important to me. Nothing is more important to me than garnering other people's respect. So, what I want the rest of the posts to be is simply a "yes"(for those who think it's cheating) or a "no"(for those who think it's not cheating).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thank you for all of your responses. I should have made my question more clear. All I want to know is whether or not the majority of people will resent for redshirting DS. My goal is to please as many people as possible. So to the PP who said "I think it's cheating, but what do you care what I think?", my answer is that outside approval has always been, and will continue to be, very important to me. Nothing is more important to me than garnering other people's respect. So, what I want the rest of the posts to be is simply a "yes"(for those who think it's cheating) or a "no"(for those who think it's not cheating).

Troll. If pleasing others is your goals just quit and homeschool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thank you for all of your responses. I should have made my question more clear. All I want to know is whether or not the majority of people will resent for redshirting DS. My goal is to please as many people as possible. So to the PP who said "I think it's cheating, but what do you care what I think?", my answer is that outside approval has always been, and will continue to be, very important to me. Nothing is more important to me than garnering other people's respect. So, what I want the rest of the posts to be is simply a "yes"(for those who think it's cheating) or a "no"(for those who think it's not cheating).

Shouldn't your goal be to do what is the right thing for your kid? I don't believe that the OP wrote this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The people so up in arms about redshirting as "cheating" reveal themselves to be absurdly competitive about childhood. Meanwhile the parents who actually face this decision invariably are considering only their particular child's needs. We considered (but ultimately did not) redshirting, and believe me, it had nothing to do with trying to get him an advantage. PS if you are also the types of parents who moan about lack of differentiation in K for your "advanced reader," you get an extra special helping of stfu.

Very well put. When DH and I considered redshirting our DS we only considered our child’s needs. I could care less what any of the teachers, parents or other kids think. We did what was best for our child. We didn’t red shirt for any kind of an advantage. Leave a child with significant SN’s and it turned out to be the right decision for DS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thank you for all of your responses. I should have made my question more clear. All I want to know is whether or not the majority of people will resent for redshirting DS. My goal is to please as many people as possible. So to the PP who said "I think it's cheating, but what do you care what I think?", my answer is that outside approval has always been, and will continue to be, very important to me. Nothing is more important to me than garnering other people's respect. So, what I want the rest of the posts to be is simply a "yes"(for those who think it's cheating) or a "no"(for those who think it's not cheating).

If you’re not a troll, and you’re serious… You need help. You want to make sure you please as many people as possible? No offense, but that is just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard on this forum. You should be more concerned about what your child needs not what everybody else thinks.