Shooting in Reston

[Anonymous]

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You don't know that. No one knows whether the mother was protecting the daughter or grandstanding, and it will take months before law enforcement can confirm whether the daughter helped plan the murder.

What has happened to us that taking a stand against NeoNazism, against hatred, is "grandstanding"?

Well, for those of us who recognize the mother's alleged actions as a shockingly ineffective way to intervene with a hate-filled lunatic, it's hard not to wonder whether the mother became so focused on the boyfriend's repugnant ideology that she couldn't see the very real danger at hand.

Huh? His ideology is Naziism. I'm pretty sure she saw the real danger here, genius. But yeah, you think that she was maybe "grandstanding"?. What is the matter with you? Let's hope the police are not as stupid as you clearly are.

Whenever it's a left-wing shooter, we never hear anything about "his ideology", or it is quickly downplayed and all we hear about is mental illness.

It's only when the shooter is (apparently) right-wing that we hear about ideology, and the mental illness aspect gets downplayed.

[Anonymous]

How many left-wing shooters have their been? The guy at the congressional baseball practice is the only one that comes to mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s been almost a week and we are still speculating on basic information: type of gun, how many shots, school, name of shooters family. Even with national coverage. Why is no one talking?

I've been checking the news every day for updates, but I can understand why they're not coming. Police have announced specifically that he'll be tried as a juvenile, which is a big statement given that he's 17, this is Virginia, and the crime is pretty heinous. If they're not going to make a run at trying him as an adult, it's because they know he has some specific capacity issues that would preventing them from showing he had full mental capacity to appreciate what he was doing. As a minor being tried as a juvenile, media outlets will generally have a policy against disclosing his identity or other readily identifying information without his parents' consent. Police will also release less information about crimes when juveniles are involved for a variety of reasons.

I also suspect that part of the reason information isn't coming out as gossip is that the teens probably attended a very small school for children with mental/emotional difficulties, which means they simply didn't have as wide a social as kids in public or a mainstream private would, and parents who knew them through the school are less inclined to talk lest it bring scrutiny upon their own children for attending the same school.

pp, i think you're correct. I will note that the NBC story/video that a link was posted to earlier in this thread had the reporter say the name of the community that his family lived in and then showed the reporter knocking on the door to the house with the street number in plain view on the video. It's not a big community, and so it's pretty easy to confirm the names of the parents and see that the speculation as to his name on other websites is correct. I also suspect that the police don't think he is going to make it, or at the very least will no longer have the mental capacity to be tried as a result of his presumably self inflicted wounds. It's a really sad situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You don't know that. No one knows whether the mother was protecting the daughter or grandstanding, and it will take months before law enforcement can confirm whether the daughter helped plan the murder.

What has happened to us that taking a stand against NeoNazism, against hatred, is "grandstanding"?

Well, for those of us who recognize the mother's alleged actions as a shockingly ineffective way to intervene with a hate-filled lunatic, it's hard not to wonder whether the mother became so focused on the boyfriend's repugnant ideology that she couldn't see the very real danger at hand.

She was probably mainly worried that her daughter was going to run away with this kid. Her daughter was naive and impressionable and the boy was negative influence on her. I doubt that she ever considered he would come into their house and kill people.

Exactly this. Every single person playing Monday Morning quarterback is clueless. I guess on DCUM that should be expected.

[Anonymous]

YES to above. Perfectly stated.

[Anonymous]

This thread has veered off course. Lets get back to the topic at hand.

[Anonymous]

Mom is being sainted [here] because she was a liberal. If she were a similarly lovely woman who generously supported pro-life causes, for example, DCUM would take this story on a completely different turn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mom is being sainted [here] because she was a liberal.

She was a gentile who hated Nazism. As a Jew, whose great grandfather was murdered by the Nazis, I appreciate that. We really do need more people like her. And fewer who are more eager to assign blame to her, than to an actual neo nazi who killed two people with a gun.

[Anonymous]

Richard Spencer clones have invaded the thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mom is being sainted [here] because she was a liberal.

She was a gentile who hated Nazism. As a Jew, whose great grandfather was murdered by the Nazis, I appreciate that. We really do need more people like her. And fewer who are more eager to assign blame to her, than to an actual neo nazi who killed two people with a gun.

This lady wasn't being a warrior, she was trying to prevent her 16 year old daughter from running off with a troubled teenage boy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mom is being sainted [here] because she was a liberal. If she were a similarly lovely woman who generously supported pro-life causes, for example, DCUM would take this story on a completely different turn.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom is being sainted [here] because she was a liberal.

She was a gentile who hated Nazism. As a Jew, whose great grandfather was murdered by the Nazis, I appreciate that. We really do need more people like her. And fewer who are more eager to assign blame to her, than to an actual neo nazi who killed two people with a gun.

This lady wasn't being a warrior, she was trying to prevent her 16 year old daughter from running off with a troubled teenage boy.

+1

Where were the boy's parents? What were they doing? How did this minor with mental health issues get his hands on a gun!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom is being sainted [here] because she was a liberal.

She was a gentile who hated Nazism. As a Jew, whose great grandfather was murdered by the Nazis, I appreciate that. We really do need more people like her. And fewer who are more eager to assign blame to her, than to an actual neo nazi who killed two people with a gun.

This lady wasn't being a warrior, she was trying to prevent her 16 year old daughter from running off with a troubled teenage boy.

+1

Where were the boy's parents? What were they doing? How did this minor with mental health issues get his hands on a gun!?

Their son was going to school, working a PT job, dating a girl and he was 17 years old. They were probably used to him being gone a lot and when he was home, he was not very communicative. He had been through some emotional/mental health issues in the past but the parents were hopeful that things were getting better when quite suddenly they weren't better at all..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom is being sainted [here] because she was a liberal.

She was a gentile who hated Nazism. As a Jew, whose great grandfather was murdered by the Nazis, I appreciate that. We really do need more people like her. And fewer who are more eager to assign blame to her, than to an actual neo nazi who killed two people with a gun.

This lady wasn't being a warrior, she was trying to prevent her 16 year old daughter from running off with a troubled teenage boy.

+1

Where were the boy's parents? What were they doing? How did this minor with mental health issues get his hands on a gun!?

Their son was going to school, working a PT job, dating a girl and he was 17 years old. They were probably used to him being gone a lot and when he was home, he was not very communicative. He had been through some emotional/mental health issues in the past but the parents were hopeful that things were getting better when quite suddenly they weren't better at all..

Thank you for posting PP. The added perspective is helpful. What a tragedy.

[Anonymous]

I cannot believe all the apologists for this murderer just because the victims were apparently liberal. Do you Trump people think Nazi beliefs are OK?