Why racial segregation is unacceptable but socioeconomic segregation is ok in private schools

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling. So earning less than 250k a year and not being able to pay 60k in this housing market means you have problems?

If you are asking for charity, i.e. financial aid, then yes.

So you think that people who receive financial aid and scholarships in college are asking for charity? If you do, you are obtuse and insolent. These schools cost more in tuition than many colleges.

Financial aid, yes that’s a literal that means charity. Scholarships, no that’s a payment for excellence.

You are an idiot. “Scholarships” in college work just like financial aid in private school. It’s easier for people who can pay “full sticker price” to get in. But many students, at some schools most students, get some scholarship funding to lessen the cost. The average price paid at many schools is far below sticker.

You are an idiot. Scholarship and financial aid are NOT the same thing. Not all scholarships are needs based. Scholarships are based on attaining high GPAs or having an unusual talent in sporting or arts valued by an institution. If you ever got one you would know that. All financial aid is needs based. Dummy.

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Private school's care about aesthetics. They want a class that looks "right." This approach means that private schools will bring in students of color (some, not too many), only to take their picture for the brochure ("Look, we're diverse!"), and relieve the white community of concerns that they may be called racist. At the end of the day, schools don't really care about racial diversity because they know darned well the claim that a Black student will be a better calculus just because she is sitting next to a White student (and vice versa) is pure fiction. What the schools DO care about is maintaining power and status. In short, racial diversity enables socioeconomic segregation. Those factors are not in tension; rather, they complement each other.

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Would agree with 23:31 above. They want a school that looks right. The financial aid kids are really there specifically to be friends with the full pay kids. If there are rich minorities who want their kids around more kids of their minority group, for sure the school is going to recruit more kids of whatever groups those are. Particularly so if one of those minority full pay parents is a big pocket donor.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling. So earning less than 250k a year and not being able to pay 60k in this housing market means you have problems?

If you are asking for charity, i.e. financial aid, then yes.

So you think that people who receive financial aid and scholarships in college are asking for charity? If you do, you are obtuse and insolent. These schools cost more in tuition than many colleges.

Financial aid, yes that’s a literal that means charity. Scholarships, no that’s a payment for excellence.

You are an idiot. “Scholarships” in college work just like financial aid in private school. It’s easier for people who can pay “full sticker price” to get in. But many students, at some schools most students, get some scholarship funding to lessen the cost. The average price paid at many schools is far below sticker.

You are an idiot. Scholarship and financial aid are NOT the same thing. Not all scholarships are needs based. Scholarships are based on attaining high GPAs or having an unusual talent in sporting or arts valued by an institution. If you ever got one you would know that. All financial aid is needs based. Dummy.

All financial aid is not need based fool. Plenty of people get more or less than “need” based on how much the school wants you. Just like college.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling. So earning less than 250k a year and not being able to pay 60k in this housing market means you have problems?

If you are asking for charity, i.e. financial aid, then yes.

So you think that people who receive financial aid and scholarships in college are asking for charity? If you do, you are obtuse and insolent. These schools cost more in tuition than many colleges.

Financial aid, yes that’s a literal that means charity. Scholarships, no that’s a payment for excellence.

You are an idiot. “Scholarships” in college work just like financial aid in private school. It’s easier for people who can pay “full sticker price” to get in. But many students, at some schools most students, get some scholarship funding to lessen the cost. The average price paid at many schools is far below sticker.

You are an idiot. Scholarship and financial aid are NOT the same thing. Not all scholarships are needs based. Scholarships are based on attaining high GPAs or having an unusual talent in sporting or arts valued by an institution. If you ever got one you would know that. All financial aid is needs based. Dummy.

This is pretty funny, as I actually got a full scholarship to several schools in my lifetime. Literally went to Harvard on a full tuition scholarship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Private school's care about aesthetics. They want a class that looks "right." This approach means that private schools will bring in students of color (some, not too many), only to take their picture for the brochure ("Look, we're diverse!"), and relieve the white community of concerns that they may be called racist. At the end of the day, schools don't really care about racial diversity because they know darned well the claim that a Black student will be a better calculus just because she is sitting next to a White student (and vice versa) is pure fiction. What the schools DO care about is maintaining power and status. In short, racial diversity enables socioeconomic segregation. Those factors are not in tension; rather, they complement each other.

This answer makes sense. Thanks!

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The fact that you utilized the word schizophrenic to bash private schools tells me everything I need to know about you.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that you utilized the word schizophrenic to bash private schools tells me everything I need to know about you.

And the fact that you don’t seem to complain about socio economic segregation tells a lot about you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling. So earning less than 250k a year and not being able to pay 60k in this housing market means you have problems?

If you are asking for charity, i.e. financial aid, then yes.

So you think that people who receive financial aid and scholarships in college are asking for charity? If you do, you are obtuse and insolent. These schools cost more in tuition than many colleges.

Financial aid, yes that’s a literal that means charity. Scholarships, no that’s a payment for excellence.

You are an idiot. “Scholarships” in college work just like financial aid in private school. It’s easier for people who can pay “full sticker price” to get in. But many students, at some schools most students, get some scholarship funding to lessen the cost. The average price paid at many schools is far below sticker.

You are an idiot. Scholarship and financial aid are NOT the same thing. Not all scholarships are needs based. Scholarships are based on attaining high GPAs or having an unusual talent in sporting or arts valued by an institution. If you ever got one you would know that. All financial aid is needs based. Dummy.

This is pretty funny, as I actually got a full scholarship to several schools in my lifetime. Literally went to Harvard on a full tuition scholarship.

I went to school on a full scholarship as well. I was offered full scholarships to several schools including schools I did not even apply to. This was based on MERIT.

I have friends who also went to schools on scholarships, again based on merit. Some of them from rather wealthy families.

I also have friends who qualified for financial aid packages after filling out their FAFSAs which is based on need. I can dumb it down for those who don’t know the simple word “aid” which means help. Wealthy people don’t need and in most instances don’t qualify for help after filling out FAFSAs. Thats at the collegiate level, of course private k-12 schools are making their own rules concerning needs based cutoffs but either way, they are checking pockets before determining that “aid”. And still offering exceptionally talented people and athletes scholarships based on merit.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that you utilized the word schizophrenic to bash private schools tells me everything I need to know about you.

And the fact that you don’t seem to complain about socio economic segregation tells a lot about you.

How would you know that?

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that you utilized the word schizophrenic to bash private schools tells me everything I need to know about you.

And the fact that you don’t seem to complain about socio economic segregation tells a lot about you.

How would you know that?

Read carefully (doesn't hurt) "you don’t seem to complain about socio economic segregation".

Do you complain or not about segregation?

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This is such a bs string. Thinly veiled racist nonsense. Why anyone is giving this any oxygen is beyond me. False equivalency of race and economics alone is an open canard. Do not engage with these people.

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Anonymous wrote:OP were you born yesterday? Public schools are way more segregated than private on this axis. Private schools are paying millions per year for socioeconomic diversity through financial aid. Meanwhile home prices and NIMBY behavior are keeping good public schools behind locked gates for most.

You hit the nail on the head.

Sure. Private schools are more inclusive than public schools.

it's not the schools it's the people. Wherever you go, there the people are. People exclude others not like them.

Sure. That makes it acceptable.

It's human nature. For all the inclusion talk there are so many kids left on the sidelines. Not cool enough, too weird, annoying, etc. Why focus on just SES or race? Exclusion happens in every single classroom.

Because those things are resulted from something the kid nor the kid’s family can control and has been happening to the same race of people for hundreds of years on US soil.

Yes, and there is something called the civil rights act since 1964. In case you have not noticed it.


Discrimination has been going on since humanity lumbered from the primordial ooze. All races, every corner of earth, all since day one.

Yes, and there is something called the civil rights act since 1964. In case you have not noticed it.

Which puts us ahead of a lot of countrys that are still virulently racist. But the civil rights act bans all discrimination based on race. All of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling. So earning less than 250k a year and not being able to pay 60k in this housing market means you have problems?

If you are asking for charity, i.e. financial aid, then yes.

So you think that people who receive financial aid and scholarships in college are asking for charity? If you do, you are obtuse and insolent. These schools cost more in tuition than many colleges.

Financial aid, yes that’s a literal that means charity. Scholarships, no that’s a payment for excellence.

You are an idiot. “Scholarships” in college work just like financial aid in private school. It’s easier for people who can pay “full sticker price” to get in. But many students, at some schools most students, get some scholarship funding to lessen the cost. The average price paid at many schools is far below sticker.

You are an idiot. Scholarship and financial aid are NOT the same thing. Not all scholarships are needs based. Scholarships are based on attaining high GPAs or having an unusual talent in sporting or arts valued by an institution. If you ever got one you would know that. All financial aid is needs based. Dummy.

This is pretty funny, as I actually got a full scholarship to several schools in my lifetime. Literally went to Harvard on a full tuition scholarship.

I went to school on a full scholarship as well. I was offered full scholarships to several schools including schools I did not even apply to. This was based on MERIT.

I have friends who also went to schools on scholarships, again based on merit. Some of them from rather wealthy families.

I also have friends who qualified for financial aid packages after filling out their FAFSAs which is based on need. I can dumb it down for those who don’t know the simple word “aid” which means help. Wealthy people don’t need and in most instances don’t qualify for help after filling out FAFSAs. Thats at the collegiate level, of course private k-12 schools are making their own rules concerning needs based cutoffs but either way, they are checking pockets before determining that “aid”. And still offering exceptionally talented people and athletes scholarships based on merit.

DC privates don’t give out financial aid to students who lack merit. That’s why they have to test and interview to qualify. Just like the Ivy League does not award scholarships for athletics but the recruited athletes get full financial aid awards, DC private schools offer financial aid/scholarships to high performing students and athletes that also have some financial need.

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Anonymous wrote:OP were you born yesterday? Public schools are way more segregated than private on this axis. Private schools are paying millions per year for socioeconomic diversity through financial aid. Meanwhile home prices and NIMBY behavior are keeping good public schools behind locked gates for most.

You hit the nail on the head.

Sure. Private schools are more inclusive than public schools.

it's not the schools it's the people. Wherever you go, there the people are. People exclude others not like them.

Sure. That makes it acceptable.

It's human nature. For all the inclusion talk there are so many kids left on the sidelines. Not cool enough, too weird, annoying, etc. Why focus on just SES or race? Exclusion happens in every single classroom.

Because those things are resulted from something the kid nor the kid’s family can control and has been happening to the same race of people for hundreds of years on US soil.

Discrimination has been going on since humanity lumbered from the primordial ooze. All races, every corner of earth, all since day one.

Well yes, you are 100% correct and that is true.

But what hasn’t been going on since day 1 are people simultaneously pursuing discrimination for themselves and their own family while at the exact same time preaching anti-discrimination and condemning those who engage in it in order to elevate their own status by presenting themselves as virtuous and others as bigoted while the both engage in the same behaviors.

You can date that activity to the post War Democrat party.