Why racial segregation is unacceptable but socioeconomic segregation is ok in private schools

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Anonymous wrote:I am new to dc and I noticed the stark difference between the two types of segregation. Private schools are happy if they are racially diverse, but not so happy to be diverse in terms of socioeconomic groups. If find this attitude a bit schizophrenic. Do you think this is ok?

I don’t try to dictate how other people spend their money. So yeah, I think it is fine. They are private schools.

Now let’s talk about public schools, where as a taxpayer, I should have a say. Why aren’t you complaining about the rich vs the poor public schools? Look at any of the DC or close in suburbs. Let’s take Arlington. There is a stark difference between the wealthiest and poorest schools.

Socioeconomic segregation is fine for private schools but it is only bad for public schools. It totally makes sense.

So you aren’t actually concerned about this as a problem for society? You are just here to stir the pot? Got it.

You don’t care about wealth inequality and how to create a more just and equitable society. You care about debating private school parents who obviously (as evidenced by their actions) are not in the least bit concerned by this. Bad faith.

Not really. Socioeconomic segregation is bad everywhere (in the same way as racial segregation) . Just find it surprising that people think private schools are off limits for socioeconomic segregation.

People can buy what they want. Are you confusing us with a communist societyc

Sure. Is it legal to have a school just for white people and reject people from other races? I don’t think so. So no, sometimes people cannot buy what they want (luckily).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP were you born yesterday? Public schools are way more segregated than private on this axis. Private schools are paying millions per year for socioeconomic diversity through financial aid. Meanwhile home prices and NIMBY behavior are keeping good public schools behind locked gates for most.

Bingo! Plus OP has no knowledge of laws. Best stick with homeschooling OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am new to dc and I noticed the stark difference between the two types of segregation. Private schools are happy if they are racially diverse, but not so happy to be diverse in terms of socioeconomic groups. If find this attitude a bit schizophrenic. Do you think this is ok?

They offer scholarships for socioeconomic integration

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Private schools are dependent upon tuition and philanthropy, not taxpayer dollars. How would OP propose funding a private school in a manner substantially differently than the current method? Around 25% of students receive financial aid, largely through the philanthropy of other parents and legacy endowments. The only way to be economically more inclusive would be to grow the financial aid pool, reduce tuition (though tuition only covers 80-90% of the cost at most schools) or sprinkle fairy dust.

I think what OP is pointing out is the hypocrisy.

How is it hypocritical? Why are people willing to pay for private schools in the first place? Or gaited communities? Who exactly are they paying to get away from? Isn’t that the whole point?

Better schools and better neighborhoods aren’t discriminating based on race and thats the law and that’s enough

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Private schools are dependent upon tuition and philanthropy, not taxpayer dollars. How would OP propose funding a private school in a manner substantially differently than the current method? Around 25% of students receive financial aid, largely through the philanthropy of other parents and legacy endowments. The only way to be economically more inclusive would be to grow the financial aid pool, reduce tuition (though tuition only covers 80-90% of the cost at most schools) or sprinkle fairy dust.

I think what OP is pointing out is the hypocrisy.

How is it hypocritical? Why are people willing to pay for private schools in the first place? Or gaited communities? Who exactly are they paying to get away from? Isn’t that the whole point?

Better schools and better neighborhoods aren’t discriminating based on race and thats the law and that’s enough

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am new to dc and I noticed the stark difference between the two types of segregation. Private schools are happy if they are racially diverse, but not so happy to be diverse in terms of socioeconomic groups. If find this attitude a bit schizophrenic. Do you think this is ok?

Having a few tokens isn’t "racially diverse”. The city is far more diverse than the private schools within.

Most of the DC privates we talk about of DCUM try to address the socioeconomic diversity as well, which is why financial aid is dispersed to some, but private schools cost money and the bills need to be paid. There is only so much that can be done.

Voice any concerns you may have to the schools you are in communication with. They will listen.

[Anonymous]

This thread is beyond stupid. Give it a rest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is beyond stupid. Give it a rest.

Maybe you’re the one who needs to take a rest.

[Anonymous]

You could suggest that private schools provide more financial aid for lower SES families, to include full tuition, and not provide financial aid for families making $250,000 in the area. The financial aid money could be used to support fewer students but students that would increase the SES diversity at the schools.

How many topics in this forum are focused on the question of who gets financial aid and why is that money going to families that are making a good amount of money. They should be able to afford the price tag, even if they have to sacrifice a new car or going on expensive vacations.

[Anonymous]

I actually think the private schools have too much socioeconomic diversity. Their annual financial aid budgets are enormous and there is very little return on these funds.

It would be smart for them to decrease the financial aid budgets and spend that money elsewhere such as academic programming or new facilities that benefits the students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You could suggest that private schools provide more financial aid for lower SES families, to include full tuition, and not provide financial aid for families making $250,000 in the area. The financial aid money could be used to support fewer students but students that would increase the SES diversity at the schools.

How many topics in this forum are focused on the question of who gets financial aid and why is that money going to families that are making a good amount of money. They should be able to afford the price tag, even if they have to sacrifice a new car or going on expensive vacations.

Low SES families are too expensive. Beyond tuition they need lots of resources back at home to be successful. You could easily have to spend much more than the annual tuition on each kid to bring them up to speed.

These private schools exist as businesses that have to compete in a competitive market with large operating expenses.

Public school exists to meet whatever larger social goals you want. Free access to education already exists. Public schools should be your focus on any changes that you want.

[Anonymous]

Of course it's not okay, and the people defending it are disgusting. However and unfortunately, it's still socially acceptable to discriminate based on income and education.

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Anonymous wrote:Of course it's not okay, and the people defending it are disgusting. However and unfortunately, it's still socially acceptable to discriminate based on income and education.

Of course it is okay for people buying premium products to have to afford them. I don’t complain about the lack of diversity at my vacation resort that costs over $1k per night.

Whatever issues you have with public education, focus on that.

[Anonymous]

This is not my experience at all in private schools. However, the kids do self segregate, but that’s not the school’s fault.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think the private schools have too much socioeconomic diversity. Their annual financial aid budgets are enormous and there is very little return on these funds.

It would be smart for them to decrease the financial aid budgets and spend that money elsewhere such as academic programming or new facilities that benefits the students.

I 100% disagree.