How many of you cut off your MAGA relatives?

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe anyone allows politics to keep them apart from family. Truly. And I feel reasonably strongly about my politics. But love for my family and my desire for my children to grow up near grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins is far stronger than anything else. Teach your kids that people have different values and different opinions, and that we don't slice out of our lives people who have different perspectives.

I know you mean well but this is a very good example of privilege. My children are biracial so no I will not have them around family members who lie and say Jan 6 was BLM and antifa or that the proud boys and unite the right rally are good things. You dont love me or my partner or children if you support politicians/polices/lies that threaten their safety and deny them basic humanity. This is not an intellectual exercise for many people. These are our lives.

DP. My children are also biracial and the URM side of the family is MAGA (or at least Trump voters), largely due to religious beliefs.

Never had anything said or done that threatens their safety or denied their basic humanity.

YMMV

Are you the white parent? As a biracial woman myself, trust me when I tell you, your children have a different racial experience than you. They feel and notice things that you do not, that you cannot. And a time will likely come where they inform you that they have absolutely experienced racism from your MAGA family. And they will spend lots of money on therapy coming to terms with the fact that their own parent cared more about keeping the peace with these people than protecting them.

PP said it was the URM side of the family who is MAGA. PP says it’s based on religious beliefs so you can guess which URM they are talking about. So no the MAGA side isn’t being racist, they are the URMs!

+1000

Just stop with the myth of MAGA is racist. Tons of BIPOC people voted for trump. Latinx people voted for trump. Even LGTBQIA++ people support trump.

Trump had more black voters this time than any republican in the last 30 years. This concept that he does not welcome or appeal to minorities is not supported by the data.

More of few is still not much. Most people of color vote against Republicans, just as they did for Trump. And the reason for that is the known racism that underlies their policies and is prevalent in their rhetoric. Anyone voting for this and pretending it has nothing to do with racism is a disingenuous liar.

But but but we were told by a previous poster that Republicans aren't racist at all! https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/14/private-chat-among-young-gop-club-members-00592146

And we’ve been told repeatedly that the campus protesters are just advocating for peace in the ME, but Students for Justice in Palestine just tweeted “Death to all collaborators”.

Does that mean that all the keffiyeh kids are terrorists?

Let’s be consistent, shall we?

It starts from the top so start there . . . acknowledge the hateful, violent, racist, nasty sh-- that comes from trump (and others in MAGA and in his administration). No one on the right has done that yet and you have no credibility until you do.

“You”? I’m not a Trumper. Despise him.

But don’t despise those who voted for him.

That distinction is the crux of this thread.

I think the best path forward is to understand and win over enough Trump voters to win future elections. And I don’t believe that shunning will accomplish that.

Others here apparently disagree and feel that their unambiguous and uncompromising moral certitude, righteousness and condescension will magically make things better.

I disagree.

+1 so very true

Well, Wise Ones, please explain how to deprogram the MAGA cult and all the people who believe the propaganda of the GOP. We are waiting.

Understand, persuade, compromise, divide/conquer, etc., etc.

In other words, politic effectively.

Shunning/ranting/despising and otherwise vomiting negative emotions while wearing the mantle of self-righteousness? Don’t think that’s likely to accomplish much—Trump has already cornered that market.

How many MAGA relatives do you have. Have you actually had a conversation with one? Tried reason and facts to no avail.

It's a cult. They need next-level deprogramming and it's not going to happen while they continue to feed off of the Faux News teat.

Family + friends? Probably 20 or so. Mostly in-laws.

And I’ve had multiple interesting and productive conversations with them.

Did I change their positions? Probably not.

Did we each get a better understanding of the other’s views and concerns? Absolutely.

Did we find some common ground? Also yes.

Was this overall a moderating influence on them and a positive outcome in “reaching across the aisle”? 100%.

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Anonymous wrote:You're all wierdos if you're cutting off family due to politics.

It’s way beyond politics. Anyone who is contributing to the demise of our democracy does not get my love or friendship,

Still wierd, they're your family. After COVID with relatives lost, I'd never want to push anyone away.

DP and I’m lucky that my traditional conservative family members are intelligent and empathetic enough to have recognized the danger of the MAGA cult as of J6, so I haven’t had to cut anyone out. They are now independents who don’t necessarily support all democrat political views, but they recognize the need to vote against falling into further authoritarianism.

But if your “political” views involve supporting a party who refuses to denounce slurs and Nazi/rape jokes because it’s just kids being kids, you are okay with masked ICE agents grabbing people off the street without a warrant or ID, and you think Charlie Kirk’s racist and misogynistic rants are some sort of intellectual commentary, then this goes deeper into your underlying morals.

And I find the morals of MAGA to be so abhorrent that I will protect my peace by not keeping them in my life (I have some friends/colleagues I’ve distanced myself from without any fanfare). Maybe they feel the same about me. I am confident in my values though that I am going whine about how stupid and mean it is if they cut me off. Good riddance.

Similar. The few cousins that were conservative mostly recognized the harm of January 6.

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Anonymous wrote:https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/jd-vance-some-americans-are-more-american-than-others

What Vance expressed to the friendly Claremont audience was a dramatically reduced vision of American citizenship. It’s one in which having ancestors who have lived here for generations entitles you to more; a vision of citizenship that’s long existed around the world, with a notable and aspirational exception in the United States.
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Vance: "I think the people whose ancestors fought in the Civil War have a hell of a lot more claim over America than the people who say they don’t belong,” he concluded.

What if their ancestors fought for slavery? We want to reward that right?

What if their ancestors invaded and massacred the native citizens of ancient heritage?

The Republican view on immigration is that immigration is OK if you murder everyone who arrived before you. So.....

I think the republican view is that colonists and conquerors aren't immigrants.

I think the dictionary agrees on that point.

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Anonymous wrote:You're all wierdos if you're cutting off family due to politics.

It’s way beyond politics. Anyone who is contributing to the demise of our democracy does not get my love or friendship,

Still wierd, they're your family. After COVID with relatives lost, I'd never want to push anyone away.

DP and I’m lucky that my traditional conservative family members are intelligent and empathetic enough to have recognized the danger of the MAGA cult as of J6, so I haven’t had to cut anyone out. They are now independents who don’t necessarily support all democrat political views, but they recognize the need to vote against falling into further authoritarianism.

But if your “political” views involve supporting a party who refuses to denounce slurs and Nazi/rape jokes because it’s just kids being kids, you are okay with masked ICE agents grabbing people off the street without a warrant or ID, and you think Charlie Kirk’s racist and misogynistic rants are some sort of intellectual commentary, then this goes deeper into your underlying morals.

And I find the morals of MAGA to be so abhorrent that I will protect my peace by not keeping them in my life (I have some friends/colleagues I’ve distanced myself from without any fanfare). Maybe they feel the same about me. I am confident in my values though that I am going whine about how stupid and mean it is if they cut me off. Good riddance.

Similar. The few cousins that were conservative mostly recognized the harm of January 6.

Same. I’m liberal married to a conservative. He’s been an independent since 2016. When the GOP nominated Trump, he left. There’s nothing conservative, patriotic, or responsible about Trump.

The NRA members in our families canceled their memberships after Sandy Hook.

Normal conservatives exist and they are not a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:You're all wierdos if you're cutting off family due to politics.

It’s way beyond politics. Anyone who is contributing to the demise of our democracy does not get my love or friendship,

Still wierd, they're your family. After COVID with relatives lost, I'd never want to push anyone away.

DP and I’m lucky that my traditional conservative family members are intelligent and empathetic enough to have recognized the danger of the MAGA cult as of J6, so I haven’t had to cut anyone out. They are now independents who don’t necessarily support all democrat political views, but they recognize the need to vote against falling into further authoritarianism.

But if your “political” views involve supporting a party who refuses to denounce slurs and Nazi/rape jokes because it’s just kids being kids, you are okay with masked ICE agents grabbing people off the street without a warrant or ID, and you think Charlie Kirk’s racist and misogynistic rants are some sort of intellectual commentary, then this goes deeper into your underlying morals.

And I find the morals of MAGA to be so abhorrent that I will protect my peace by not keeping them in my life (I have some friends/colleagues I’ve distanced myself from without any fanfare). Maybe they feel the same about me. I am confident in my values though that I am going whine about how stupid and mean it is if they cut me off. Good riddance.

Similar. The few cousins that were conservative mostly recognized the harm of January 6.

Same. I’m liberal married to a conservative. He’s been an independent since 2016. When the GOP nominated Trump, he left. There’s nothing conservative, patriotic, or responsible about Trump.

The NRA members in our families canceled their memberships after Sandy Hook.

Normal conservatives exist and they are not a problem.

Normal conservatives dont push for change which is why they're not a problem.

Actual nafionalists would be a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:You're all wierdos if you're cutting off family due to politics.

It’s way beyond politics. Anyone who is contributing to the demise of our democracy does not get my love or friendship,

That's your opinion, and it is absolutely a political one.

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Nope...this is about basic human decency....honestly it sounds like you know deep down a vote for this administration was a vote for hatred and cruelty.

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Anonymous wrote:You're all wierdos if you're cutting off family due to politics.

It’s way beyond politics. Anyone who is contributing to the demise of our democracy does not get my love or friendship,

Still wierd, they're your family. After COVID with relatives lost, I'd never want to push anyone away.

DP and I’m lucky that my traditional conservative family members are intelligent and empathetic enough to have recognized the danger of the MAGA cult as of J6, so I haven’t had to cut anyone out. They are now independents who don’t necessarily support all democrat political views, but they recognize the need to vote against falling into further authoritarianism.

But if your “political” views involve supporting a party who refuses to denounce slurs and Nazi/rape jokes because it’s just kids being kids, you are okay with masked ICE agents grabbing people off the street without a warrant or ID, and you think Charlie Kirk’s racist and misogynistic rants are some sort of intellectual commentary, then this goes deeper into your underlying morals.

And I find the morals of MAGA to be so abhorrent that I will protect my peace by not keeping them in my life (I have some friends/colleagues I’ve distanced myself from without any fanfare). Maybe they feel the same about me. I am confident in my values though that I am going whine about how stupid and mean it is if they cut me off. Good riddance.

Similar. The few cousins that were conservative mostly recognized the harm of January 6.

Same. I’m liberal married to a conservative. He’s been an independent since 2016. When the GOP nominated Trump, he left. There’s nothing conservative, patriotic, or responsible about Trump.

The NRA members in our families canceled their memberships after Sandy Hook.

Normal conservatives exist and they are not a problem.

Normal conservatives dont push for change which is why they're not a problem.

Actual nafionalists would be a problem.

I know some intelligent conservatives who refused to vote for this administration because they are decent human beings. I don't consider them MAGA and I didn't cut them out. Conservative is not the problem...but the ignorance, hate, and cruelty that is straight up MAGA

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Never really had to because of MAGA, specifically. The most MAGA now have been trash for 40+ years so once the gravy train of DUI bail was cut off entirely sometime in the GWB era we just don't think about them at all.

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I haven't completely cut out my MAGA relatives, I just minimize contact.

A couple of the older relatives who lived through polio have started seeing that the current MAGA politicians are full of it.

No longer loaning or giving them money, they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

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Anonymous wrote:You're all wierdos if you're cutting off family due to politics.

It’s way beyond politics. Anyone who is contributing to the demise of our democracy does not get my love or friendship,

Still wierd, they're your family. After COVID with relatives lost, I'd never want to push anyone away.

DP and I’m lucky that my traditional conservative family members are intelligent and empathetic enough to have recognized the danger of the MAGA cult as of J6, so I haven’t had to cut anyone out. They are now independents who don’t necessarily support all democrat political views, but they recognize the need to vote against falling into further authoritarianism.

But if your “political” views involve supporting a party who refuses to denounce slurs and Nazi/rape jokes because it’s just kids being kids, you are okay with masked ICE agents grabbing people off the street without a warrant or ID, and you think Charlie Kirk’s racist and misogynistic rants are some sort of intellectual commentary, then this goes deeper into your underlying morals.

And I find the morals of MAGA to be so abhorrent that I will protect my peace by not keeping them in my life (I have some friends/colleagues I’ve distanced myself from without any fanfare). Maybe they feel the same about me. I am confident in my values though that I am going whine about how stupid and mean it is if they cut me off. Good riddance.

Similar. The few cousins that were conservative mostly recognized the harm of January 6.

Same. I’m liberal married to a conservative. He’s been an independent since 2016. When the GOP nominated Trump, he left. There’s nothing conservative, patriotic, or responsible about Trump.

The NRA members in our families canceled their memberships after Sandy Hook.

Normal conservatives exist and they are not a problem.

Normal conservatives dont push for change which is why they're not a problem.

Actual nafionalists would be a problem.

Would be? That IS the problem. MAGA aren’t conservatives, they’re Christian Nationalists and White Supremacists.

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Anonymous wrote:You're all wierdos if you're cutting off family due to politics.

It’s way beyond politics. Anyone who is contributing to the demise of our democracy does not get my love or friendship,

That's your opinion, and it is absolutely a political one.

I know that is easier for you to justify but it's really not political. At least not solely political. There are definite moral and integrity issues with Trump and his supporters. (NP).

I believe it is totally OK and normal that people have different moral standards. Some people believe it is morally OK to marry minor, to have several wives, to mutiliate female genitals, etc. But for some people is morally wrong to sleep with the same sex partner, etc. US, as a melting pot, have to embrace all the people. Why are you against other's cultures, morals and believes?

Are you saying this as someone supporting MAGA because you believe women should not be allowed to have a first trimester abortion and or take Plan B, or that businesses should be allowed to refuse to make cakes for same sex weddings? As someone who thinks people should lose jobs if they aren’t sufficiently upset about Charlie Kirk?

Republicans aren’t the party of “respect all beliefs”. They are the party of having the government make my beliefs illegal shove your (morally repugnant) beliefs down my throat.

Plus, if you are okay with a felon rapist pedophile POTUS, and can excuse rape and pedophilia and Hitler/rape/gas chamber You NG Republican “jokes” because Cult MAGA, I don’t want to be anywhere near you. You are morally reprehensible and I chose not to force myself to be understanding of (or talk to) people who loudly and proudly excuse behavior that destroys the lives of the most vulnerable people in society.

I certainly don’t want you near my kids. Your movement homeschooling so your kids aren’t exposed to my beliefs. But you don’t think I have the right to protect my kids from exposure to people who excuse young Republican boys rape fantasies as “boys will be boys”? Rape and pedophila hurt a lot more people than Girls Who Code clubs.

My kids are in top private school and one is in Ivy League college. I am happy not seeing your kids there, you can send them to public schools. Especially if you are so obsessed with raping children.

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Anonymous wrote:You're all wierdos if you're cutting off family due to politics.

It’s way beyond politics. Anyone who is contributing to the demise of our democracy does not get my love or friendship,

Still wierd, they're your family. After COVID with relatives lost, I'd never want to push anyone away.

DP and I’m lucky that my traditional conservative family members are intelligent and empathetic enough to have recognized the danger of the MAGA cult as of J6, so I haven’t had to cut anyone out. They are now independents who don’t necessarily support all democrat political views, but they recognize the need to vote against falling into further authoritarianism.

But if your “political” views involve supporting a party who refuses to denounce slurs and Nazi/rape jokes because it’s just kids being kids, you are okay with masked ICE agents grabbing people off the street without a warrant or ID, and you think Charlie Kirk’s racist and misogynistic rants are some sort of intellectual commentary, then this goes deeper into your underlying morals.

And I find the morals of MAGA to be so abhorrent that I will protect my peace by not keeping them in my life (I have some friends/colleagues I’ve distanced myself from without any fanfare). Maybe they feel the same about me. I am confident in my values though that I am going whine about how stupid and mean it is if they cut me off. Good riddance.

Similar. The few cousins that were conservative mostly recognized the harm of January 6.

Same. I’m liberal married to a conservative. He’s been an independent since 2016. When the GOP nominated Trump, he left. There’s nothing conservative, patriotic, or responsible about Trump.

The NRA members in our families canceled their memberships after Sandy Hook.

Normal conservatives exist and they are not a problem.

Normal conservatives dont push for change which is why they're not a problem.

Actual nafionalists would be a problem.

I know some intelligent conservatives who refused to vote for this administration because they are decent human beings. I don't consider them MAGA and I didn't cut them out. Conservative is not the problem...but the ignorance, hate, and cruelty that is straight up MAGA

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MAGA is mostly made up of people who never cared about politics before, but suddenly became interested once the party was led by a reality tv star who has made racism and misogyny socially acceptable. I highly doubt the majority of them have any deep understanding about the branches of government nor the constitution or traditional Republican values. True conservatives left a long time ago when they realized the party was becoming a white Christian nationalist cult.

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Anonymous wrote:You're all wierdos if you're cutting off family due to politics.

It’s way beyond politics. Anyone who is contributing to the demise of our democracy does not get my love or friendship,

That's your opinion, and it is absolutely a political one.

I know that is easier for you to justify but it's really not political. At least not solely political. There are definite moral and integrity issues with Trump and his supporters. (NP).

I believe it is totally OK and normal that people have different moral standards. Some people believe it is morally OK to marry minor, to have several wives, to mutiliate female genitals, etc. But for some people is morally wrong to sleep with the same sex partner, etc. US, as a melting pot, have to embrace all the people. Why are you against other's cultures, morals and believes?

Are you saying this as someone supporting MAGA because you believe women should not be allowed to have a first trimester abortion and or take Plan B, or that businesses should be allowed to refuse to make cakes for same sex weddings? As someone who thinks people should lose jobs if they aren’t sufficiently upset about Charlie Kirk?

Republicans aren’t the party of “respect all beliefs”. They are the party of having the government make my beliefs illegal shove your (morally repugnant) beliefs down my throat.

Plus, if you are okay with a felon rapist pedophile POTUS, and can excuse rape and pedophilia and Hitler/rape/gas chamber You NG Republican “jokes” because Cult MAGA, I don’t want to be anywhere near you. You are morally reprehensible and I chose not to force myself to be understanding of (or talk to) people who loudly and proudly excuse behavior that destroys the lives of the most vulnerable people in society.

I certainly don’t want you near my kids. Your movement homeschooling so your kids aren’t exposed to my beliefs. But you don’t think I have the right to protect my kids from exposure to people who excuse young Republican boys rape fantasies as “boys will be boys”? Rape and pedophila hurt a lot more people than Girls Who Code clubs.

My kids are in top private school and one is in Ivy League college. I am happy not seeing your kids there, you can send them to public schools. Especially if you are so obsessed with raping children.

You defended child marriage. You’re deplorable. I’m not surprised you have a kid at an Ivy, they tend to attract liars, cheaters, and sociopaths who just want status and power.

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Anonymous wrote:You're all wierdos if you're cutting off family due to politics.

It’s way beyond politics. Anyone who is contributing to the demise of our democracy does not get my love or friendship,

Still wierd, they're your family. After COVID with relatives lost, I'd never want to push anyone away.

DP and I’m lucky that my traditional conservative family members are intelligent and empathetic enough to have recognized the danger of the MAGA cult as of J6, so I haven’t had to cut anyone out. They are now independents who don’t necessarily support all democrat political views, but they recognize the need to vote against falling into further authoritarianism.

But if your “political” views involve supporting a party who refuses to denounce slurs and Nazi/rape jokes because it’s just kids being kids, you are okay with masked ICE agents grabbing people off the street without a warrant or ID, and you think Charlie Kirk’s racist and misogynistic rants are some sort of intellectual commentary, then this goes deeper into your underlying morals.

And I find the morals of MAGA to be so abhorrent that I will protect my peace by not keeping them in my life (I have some friends/colleagues I’ve distanced myself from without any fanfare). Maybe they feel the same about me. I am confident in my values though that I am going whine about how stupid and mean it is if they cut me off. Good riddance.

Similar. The few cousins that were conservative mostly recognized the harm of January 6.

Same. I’m liberal married to a conservative. He’s been an independent since 2016. When the GOP nominated Trump, he left. There’s nothing conservative, patriotic, or responsible about Trump.

The NRA members in our families canceled their memberships after Sandy Hook.

Normal conservatives exist and they are not a problem.

Normal conservatives dont push for change which is why they're not a problem.

Actual nafionalists would be a problem.

Would be? That IS the problem. MAGA aren’t conservatives, they’re Christian Nationalists and White Supremacists.

Trump is a Christian nationalist? He's a white supremicist with Jewish kids/grand kids?

Sure there may be some of those people in MAGA, but I don't think the entire movement is as such. It's not like MAGA has a party platform.

Actual nationalists would be far more extreme than MAGA.

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MAGA is full of racist white nationalists. 47 is racist white nationalist. The end.