Antizionism is not antisemitism/the current conflict

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

You sound jealous lol

No but there’s no doubt that they consider themselves white. They’re whiter than white.

And there it is. “Whiter than white.” From the brilliant book “Jews Don’t Count”:

“… racists say Jews aren’t white. Problem is, progressives, in general, tend to think they are white and, therefore, not really deserving of the protections progressive movements offer to non-white people facing racism. In some cases, Jews and Jewishness are used to signify even greater whiteness than normal.”

I mean many are wealthy people with white skin, with european ancestry.

There what is? Jewish people with white skin can and do pass as white because they are white and reap the benefits of being white, genuis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

This is definitely very relevant to the question of whether most Israeli Jews are white.

I mean, am I wrong for thinking white Americans jews consider themselves white? The white American jews I know are proud zionists and look white, act white, only really associate with wealthy people, preferably other wealthy white jewish people.They travel to Israel often have family in Israel, love Israel and display this fact by flying Israeli flags and supporting Israel signs everywhere. Which is fine. These are white people, are they not?

This whole tangent of yours is irrelevant because we’re talking about Israel, not America, but for what it’s worth, it doesn’t really matter what Jews consider themselves to be. It matters what others consider them to be. And American Jews’ whiteness is very much conditional. They haven’t always been considered white in America. Right here in Montgomery County, in 1947, five families in the Bannockburn Heights filed a lawsuit to force Lucille Tushin, a Christian woman, to evict her husband, Aaron, because he was Jewish. The suit claimed irreparable damage caused by his occupancy in violation of the neighborhood’s restrictive covenant.

Jews are Schrödinger’s Whites: white or non-white depending on the politics of the observer. If you ask a neonazi, they will say Jews are not white. If you ask an antizionist, they will say Jews are definitely white.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

You sound jealous lol

No but there’s no doubt that they consider themselves white. They’re whiter than white.

And there it is. “Whiter than white.” From the brilliant book “Jews Don’t Count”:

“… racists say Jews aren’t white. Problem is, progressives, in general, tend to think they are white and, therefore, not really deserving of the protections progressive movements offer to non-white people facing racism. In some cases, Jews and Jewishness are used to signify even greater whiteness than normal.”

I mean many are wealthy people with white skin, with european ancestry.

There what is? Jewish people with white skin can and do pass as white because they are white and reap the benefits of being white, genuis.

Ok just call them white then. Why call them “whiter than white”? Explain yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

This is definitely very relevant to the question of whether most Israeli Jews are white.

I mean, am I wrong for thinking white Americans jews consider themselves white? The white American jews I know are proud zionists and look white, act white, only really associate with wealthy people, preferably other wealthy white jewish people.They travel to Israel often have family in Israel, love Israel and display this fact by flying Israeli flags and supporting Israel signs everywhere. Which is fine. These are white people, are they not?

Nobody is talking about American Jews genius. They’re discussing whether Israel is a white supremacist country. It is not, for the reasons mentioned (50% of Israelis are brown).

Well all Israelis should just immigrate here. It’s a wonderful life here compared to the ME.

They tried. Look up the SS St. Louis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

You sound jealous lol

No but there’s no doubt that they consider themselves white. They’re whiter than white.

And there it is. “Whiter than white.” From the brilliant book “Jews Don’t Count”:

“… racists say Jews aren’t white. Problem is, progressives, in general, tend to think they are white and, therefore, not really deserving of the protections progressive movements offer to non-white people facing racism. In some cases, Jews and Jewishness are used to signify even greater whiteness than normal.”

I mean many are wealthy people with white skin, with european ancestry.

There what is? Jewish people with white skin can and do pass as white because they are white and reap the benefits of being white, genuis.

Ok just call them white then. Why call them “whiter than white”? Explain yourself.

I mean my jewish friends/acquaintances remind me of the wasps of the mid 1900s US. Very exclusive country club-ish, posh, privileged, exquisite, lovely, luxurious life. They attend exclusive schools and universities and have connections and networking most can only dream of.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

You sound jealous lol

No but there’s no doubt that they consider themselves white. They’re whiter than white.

And there it is. “Whiter than white.” From the brilliant book “Jews Don’t Count”:

“… racists say Jews aren’t white. Problem is, progressives, in general, tend to think they are white and, therefore, not really deserving of the protections progressive movements offer to non-white people facing racism. In some cases, Jews and Jewishness are used to signify even greater whiteness than normal.”

I mean many are wealthy people with white skin, with european ancestry.

There what is? Jewish people with white skin can and do pass as white because they are white and reap the benefits of being white, genuis.

Ok just call them white then. Why call them “whiter than white”? Explain yourself.

I mean my jewish friends/acquaintances remind me of the wasps of the mid 1900s US. Very exclusive country club-ish, posh, privileged, exquisite, lovely, luxurious life. They attend exclusive schools and universities and have connections and networking most can only dream of.

Ok got it. So to you white = rich, and Jews are ultra rich.

Do you think that protects them from antisemitism?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

You sound jealous lol

No but there’s no doubt that they consider themselves white. They’re whiter than white.

And there it is. “Whiter than white.” From the brilliant book “Jews Don’t Count”:

“… racists say Jews aren’t white. Problem is, progressives, in general, tend to think they are white and, therefore, not really deserving of the protections progressive movements offer to non-white people facing racism. In some cases, Jews and Jewishness are used to signify even greater whiteness than normal.”

I mean many are wealthy people with white skin, with european ancestry.

There what is? Jewish people with white skin can and do pass as white because they are white and reap the benefits of being white, genuis.

Ok just call them white then. Why call them “whiter than white”? Explain yourself.

I mean my jewish friends/acquaintances remind me of the wasps of the mid 1900s US. Very exclusive country club-ish, posh, privileged, exquisite, lovely, luxurious life. They attend exclusive schools and universities and have connections and networking most can only dream of.

Ok got it. So to you white = rich, and Jews are ultra rich.

Do you think that protects them from antisemitism?

I don’t know? How are the wealthy extremely connected white jews I know affected by antisemitism? They have more support and a stronger network than anyone else I know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

You sound jealous lol

No but there’s no doubt that they consider themselves white. They’re whiter than white.

And there it is. “Whiter than white.” From the brilliant book “Jews Don’t Count”:

“… racists say Jews aren’t white. Problem is, progressives, in general, tend to think they are white and, therefore, not really deserving of the protections progressive movements offer to non-white people facing racism. In some cases, Jews and Jewishness are used to signify even greater whiteness than normal.”

I mean many are wealthy people with white skin, with european ancestry.

There what is? Jewish people with white skin can and do pass as white because they are white and reap the benefits of being white, genuis.

Ok just call them white then. Why call them “whiter than white”? Explain yourself.

I mean my jewish friends/acquaintances remind me of the wasps of the mid 1900s US. Very exclusive country club-ish, posh, privileged, exquisite, lovely, luxurious life. They attend exclusive schools and universities and have connections and networking most can only dream of.

Ok got it. So to you white = rich, and Jews are ultra rich.

Do you think that protects them from antisemitism?

Antisemitism exists but how are very wealthy connected white American jews affected by it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

You sound jealous lol

No but there’s no doubt that they consider themselves white. They’re whiter than white.

And there it is. “Whiter than white.” From the brilliant book “Jews Don’t Count”:

“… racists say Jews aren’t white. Problem is, progressives, in general, tend to think they are white and, therefore, not really deserving of the protections progressive movements offer to non-white people facing racism. In some cases, Jews and Jewishness are used to signify even greater whiteness than normal.”

I mean many are wealthy people with white skin, with european ancestry.

There what is? Jewish people with white skin can and do pass as white because they are white and reap the benefits of being white, genuis.

Ok just call them white then. Why call them “whiter than white”? Explain yourself.

I mean my jewish friends/acquaintances remind me of the wasps of the mid 1900s US. Very exclusive country club-ish, posh, privileged, exquisite, lovely, luxurious life. They attend exclusive schools and universities and have connections and networking most can only dream of.

Ok got it. So to you white = rich, and Jews are ultra rich.

Do you think that protects them from antisemitism?

I don’t know? How are the wealthy extremely connected white jews I know affected by antisemitism? They have more support and a stronger network than anyone else I know.

Maybe ask them if you don’t know instead of assuming.

You say they remind you of the WASPs of the mid 1900s. Funny thing about those WASPs is that they discriminated against Jews, including rich Jews. Jews were prohibited from joining country clubs, and established their own for that reason. Woodmont Country Club right here in Rockville, Maryland was founded in 1913 when Jews were prohibited from joining other clubs in the Washington, D.C., area.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

You sound jealous lol

No but there’s no doubt that they consider themselves white. They’re whiter than white.

And there it is. “Whiter than white.” From the brilliant book “Jews Don’t Count”:

“… racists say Jews aren’t white. Problem is, progressives, in general, tend to think they are white and, therefore, not really deserving of the protections progressive movements offer to non-white people facing racism. In some cases, Jews and Jewishness are used to signify even greater whiteness than normal.”

I mean many are wealthy people with white skin, with european ancestry.

There what is? Jewish people with white skin can and do pass as white because they are white and reap the benefits of being white, genuis.

Ok just call them white then. Why call them “whiter than white”? Explain yourself.

I mean my jewish friends/acquaintances remind me of the wasps of the mid 1900s US. Very exclusive country club-ish, posh, privileged, exquisite, lovely, luxurious life. They attend exclusive schools and universities and have connections and networking most can only dream of.

Ok got it. So to you white = rich, and Jews are ultra rich.

Do you think that protects them from antisemitism?

I don’t know? How are the wealthy extremely connected white jews I know affected by antisemitism? They have more support and a stronger network than anyone else I know.

Maybe ask them if you don’t know instead of assuming.

You say they remind you of the WASPs of the mid 1900s. Funny thing about those WASPs is that they discriminated against Jews, including rich Jews. Jews were prohibited from joining country clubs, and established their own for that reason. Woodmont Country Club right here in Rockville, Maryland was founded in 1913 when Jews were prohibited from joining other clubs in the Washington, D.C., area.

Well the tide has turned. The pendulum has swung.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

You sound jealous lol

No but there’s no doubt that they consider themselves white. They’re whiter than white.

And there it is. “Whiter than white.” From the brilliant book “Jews Don’t Count”:

“… racists say Jews aren’t white. Problem is, progressives, in general, tend to think they are white and, therefore, not really deserving of the protections progressive movements offer to non-white people facing racism. In some cases, Jews and Jewishness are used to signify even greater whiteness than normal.”

I mean many are wealthy people with white skin, with european ancestry.

There what is? Jewish people with white skin can and do pass as white because they are white and reap the benefits of being white, genuis.

Ok just call them white then. Why call them “whiter than white”? Explain yourself.

I mean my jewish friends/acquaintances remind me of the wasps of the mid 1900s US. Very exclusive country club-ish, posh, privileged, exquisite, lovely, luxurious life. They attend exclusive schools and universities and have connections and networking most can only dream of.

Ok got it. So to you white = rich, and Jews are ultra rich.

Do you think that protects them from antisemitism?

I don’t know? How are the wealthy extremely connected white jews I know affected by antisemitism? They have more support and a stronger network than anyone else I know.

Maybe ask them if you don’t know instead of assuming.

You say they remind you of the WASPs of the mid 1900s. Funny thing about those WASPs is that they discriminated against Jews, including rich Jews. Jews were prohibited from joining country clubs, and established their own for that reason. Woodmont Country Club right here in Rockville, Maryland was founded in 1913 when Jews were prohibited from joining other clubs in the Washington, D.C., area.

Also, the Nazis didn’t care if you were rich or poor, they’d kill you either way if you were a Jew. Same with the Islamic Republic of Iran where my parents escaped from. Google Habib Elghanayan - a wealthy Jewish Iranian industrialist executed by the Iranian regime without a trial on specious charges of being a “Zionist.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

You sound jealous lol

No but there’s no doubt that they consider themselves white. They’re whiter than white.

And there it is. “Whiter than white.” From the brilliant book “Jews Don’t Count”:

“… racists say Jews aren’t white. Problem is, progressives, in general, tend to think they are white and, therefore, not really deserving of the protections progressive movements offer to non-white people facing racism. In some cases, Jews and Jewishness are used to signify even greater whiteness than normal.”

I mean many are wealthy people with white skin, with european ancestry.

There what is? Jewish people with white skin can and do pass as white because they are white and reap the benefits of being white, genuis.

Ok just call them white then. Why call them “whiter than white”? Explain yourself.

I mean my jewish friends/acquaintances remind me of the wasps of the mid 1900s US. Very exclusive country club-ish, posh, privileged, exquisite, lovely, luxurious life. They attend exclusive schools and universities and have connections and networking most can only dream of.

Ok got it. So to you white = rich, and Jews are ultra rich.

Do you think that protects them from antisemitism?

I don’t know? How are the wealthy extremely connected white jews I know affected by antisemitism? They have more support and a stronger network than anyone else I know.

Maybe ask them if you don’t know instead of assuming.

You say they remind you of the WASPs of the mid 1900s. Funny thing about those WASPs is that they discriminated against Jews, including rich Jews. Jews were prohibited from joining country clubs, and established their own for that reason. Woodmont Country Club right here in Rockville, Maryland was founded in 1913 when Jews were prohibited from joining other clubs in the Washington, D.C., area.

Well the tide has turned. The pendulum has swung.

It can swing back at any time. That’s the point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider white skinned jews white people and the white jews I know personally consider themselves white afaik and are quite happy successful individuals. Very connected and have a great sense community, unlike many others. They drive fancy cars and have fancy beach homes, the ladies get brazilian blowouts and plastic surgery and designer clothes. The kids go to pricey camps and clubs and jave the best of everything.

You sound jealous lol

No but there’s no doubt that they consider themselves white. They’re whiter than white.

And there it is. “Whiter than white.” From the brilliant book “Jews Don’t Count”:

“… racists say Jews aren’t white. Problem is, progressives, in general, tend to think they are white and, therefore, not really deserving of the protections progressive movements offer to non-white people facing racism. In some cases, Jews and Jewishness are used to signify even greater whiteness than normal.”

I mean many are wealthy people with white skin, with european ancestry.

There what is? Jewish people with white skin can and do pass as white because they are white and reap the benefits of being white, genuis.

Ok just call them white then. Why call them “whiter than white”? Explain yourself.

I mean my jewish friends/acquaintances remind me of the wasps of the mid 1900s US. Very exclusive country club-ish, posh, privileged, exquisite, lovely, luxurious life. They attend exclusive schools and universities and have connections and networking most can only dream of.

Ok got it. So to you white = rich, and Jews are ultra rich.

Do you think that protects them from antisemitism?

I don’t know? How are the wealthy extremely connected white jews I know affected by antisemitism? They have more support and a stronger network than anyone else I know.

Maybe ask them if you don’t know instead of assuming.

You say they remind you of the WASPs of the mid 1900s. Funny thing about those WASPs is that they discriminated against Jews, including rich Jews. Jews were prohibited from joining country clubs, and established their own for that reason. Woodmont Country Club right here in Rockville, Maryland was founded in 1913 when Jews were prohibited from joining other clubs in the Washington, D.C., area.

Well the tide has turned. The pendulum has swung.

It can swing back at any time. That’s the point.

But it hasn’t yet so unless you have a crystal ball this is impossible to predict. There should be a happy medium where everyone is treated equally.

[Anonymous]

It's a grim irony: some scream "antisemitism" at every critique, while their silence on a genocide we’re bankrolling in their name is deafening. Distraction’s a hell of a drug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's a grim irony: some scream "antisemitism" at every critique, while their silence on a genocide we’re bankrolling in their name is deafening. Distraction’s a hell of a drug.

Then there are some of us who are appalled at the crimes happening in Gaza but also don’t particularly want to be told we personally have to answer for it or that it proves Israel should never have existed.

The biggest distraction in this thread right now is the person trying to debate with themselves about whether white Jews are white. Yes, white Jews are white. Mazel tov, we’ve solved that one.