Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?

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Anonymous wrote:I would highly recommend those that don't understand the context for what's happening in Gaza right now to read some of Jewish author Ilan Pappe's books.

There's a lot of propaganda, misinformation and deliberate lies that comes from the side of the colonizer/occupier/genocider in order to justify their own Holocaust. It's all over this thread just as it is in the media and elsewhere.

Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ten Myths About Israel, and The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of Gaza and the Occupied Territories are all excellently researched books that are both shocking and illuminating.

Some other books I would add to the list
The Hundred Years' War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi
Anything by Norman Finkelstein
Genocide Bad by Sim Kern
On Palestine by Noam Chomsky

Some of the best books on the topic are written by Jewish/Israeli authors.

Thank you for this list. We as Americans need to educate ourselves on what’s going on over there. And glad to see these books were written by Jews. Everything is labeled as “antisemitic” if it criticizes Israel.

Oh please. Check out the post earlier about “Yiddish breath.” That’s pure unadulterated Jew hatred and yes, anti semitism, not nuanced and thoughtful criticism of a government.

Open your eyes to the hate. It’s right in front of you.

First, it was schlemiel breath.

Second, it was a response to you running your mouth and trying to discredit assertions by criticizing someone else’s writing style or clarity of thought or whatever. Didn’t bother to provide a response that addressed the merits of those assertions, but instead tried the lazy approach of trying to discredit.

When you gaslight or straw man or pull the usual obfuscation tactics to silence valid criticism of Israel’s policies and actions - and you do it in a writing style that pretty clearly suggests that English isn’t a primary language - you’re going to have to expect a response.

But at that point, it’s up to the sender of that response to choose whether or not to be gentle. And despite what you think or feel, it’s not anti-semitic to assume that someone is Jewish. And it’s also not anti-semitic to mock those who defend genocide and nations that repeatedly violate international law.

Lastly, there’s no hatred. Full stop.

[Anonymous]

Netanyahu and the IDF didn’t act for 8 hours. Why?

Why hasn’t Israel done more to get their hostages? Why?

Why are conservatives in Israel shaming extraordinarily brave, honorable and obviously elderly Holocaust survivors protesting the starvation in Gaza? How in the hell could anyone condone counterprotesting these principled people?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/25/we-have-lost-our-humanity-holocaust-survivors-call-for-end-to-war-in-gaza

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would highly recommend those that don't understand the context for what's happening in Gaza right now to read some of Jewish author Ilan Pappe's books.

There's a lot of propaganda, misinformation and deliberate lies that comes from the side of the colonizer/occupier/genocider in order to justify their own Holocaust. It's all over this thread just as it is in the media and elsewhere.

Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ten Myths About Israel, and The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of Gaza and the Occupied Territories are all excellently researched books that are both shocking and illuminating.

Some other books I would add to the list
The Hundred Years' War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi
Anything by Norman Finkelstein
Genocide Bad by Sim Kern
On Palestine by Noam Chomsky

Some of the best books on the topic are written by Jewish/Israeli authors.

Thank you for this list. We as Americans need to educate ourselves on what’s going on over there. And glad to see these books were written by Jews. Everything is labeled as “antisemitic” if it criticizes Israel.

Oh please. Check out the post earlier about “Yiddish breath.” That’s pure unadulterated Jew hatred and yes, anti semitism, not nuanced and thoughtful criticism of a government.

Open your eyes to the hate. It’s right in front of you.

First, it was schlemiel breath.

Second, it was a response to you running your mouth and trying to discredit assertions by criticizing someone else’s writing style or clarity of thought or whatever. Didn’t bother to provide a response that addressed the merits of those assertions, but instead tried the lazy approach of trying to discredit.

When you gaslight or straw man or pull the usual obfuscation tactics to silence valid criticism of Israel’s policies and actions - and you do it in a writing style that pretty clearly suggests that English isn’t a primary language - you’re going to have to expect a response.

But at that point, it’s up to the sender of that response to choose whether or not to be gentle. And despite what you think or feel, it’s not anti-semitic to assume that someone is Jewish. And it’s also not anti-semitic to mock those who defend genocide and nations that repeatedly violate international law.

Lastly, there’s no hatred. Full stop.

DP.

You were WAY out of line. Give yourself a timeout.

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Anonymous wrote:How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?

Fertility rate in Gaza is 3.6 - 7.0 children per childbearing aged woman, each of the last 30 years.

Makes no sense to have non-stop kids in poverty, no job, region run by religious terrorists.
What’s going on?

The poorest countries of the world also have the highest fertility rates. It’s always been the case.

Contraception and abortion are usually restricted by "authorities", in Gaza case - Hamas.

Women have zero rights in Palestine. Their role is to pop out babies.

That sounds more like the Jewish settlers who don’t think women should learn to read or leave the house, just make babies.

The percentage of educated women is one of the highest in the world with Palestinians.

Female literacy and education rates are nearly identical for Israelis and Palestinians. However women’s percentage in the workforce is much higher in Israel.

Percentage in the workforce is higher in Israel more generally relative to Palestine. Hard to create jobs when there's a constant fear of attack and bombs dropping.

I have no love of Israel and what they do in the West Bank is terrible and their behavior towards Palestinians are terrible, but they've also educated Palestinians and given them jobs and in return Palestine has unleashed terror on them. They just can't get over their hatred and desire to annihilate Israel. They'd rather live in a backwards religious country than develop their waterfront and make peace. They would actually have more clout worldwide if they would actually create something useful for the world instead of just fighting and garnering sympathy while people sit and wonder why no other Arab nation is helping them. Eventually they will completely lose out. No American is able to control Israel. We feel bad for both sides, but Palestine is a group of lost people that sold themselves to a terrorist organization and now is losing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would highly recommend those that don't understand the context for what's happening in Gaza right now to read some of Jewish author Ilan Pappe's books.

There's a lot of propaganda, misinformation and deliberate lies that comes from the side of the colonizer/occupier/genocider in order to justify their own Holocaust. It's all over this thread just as it is in the media and elsewhere.

Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ten Myths About Israel, and The Biggest Prison on Earth: A History of Gaza and the Occupied Territories are all excellently researched books that are both shocking and illuminating.

Some other books I would add to the list
The Hundred Years' War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi
Anything by Norman Finkelstein
Genocide Bad by Sim Kern
On Palestine by Noam Chomsky

Some of the best books on the topic are written by Jewish/Israeli authors.

Thank you for this list. We as Americans need to educate ourselves on what’s going on over there. And glad to see these books were written by Jews. Everything is labeled as “antisemitic” if it criticizes Israel.

Oh please. Check out the post earlier about “Yiddish breath.” That’s pure unadulterated Jew hatred and yes, anti semitism, not nuanced and thoughtful criticism of a government.

Open your eyes to the hate. It’s right in front of you.

First, it was schlemiel breath.

Second, it was a response to you running your mouth and trying to discredit assertions by criticizing someone else’s writing style or clarity of thought or whatever. Didn’t bother to provide a response that addressed the merits of those assertions, but instead tried the lazy approach of trying to discredit.

When you gaslight or straw man or pull the usual obfuscation tactics to silence valid criticism of Israel’s policies and actions - and you do it in a writing style that pretty clearly suggests that English isn’t a primary language - you’re going to have to expect a response.

But at that point, it’s up to the sender of that response to choose whether or not to be gentle. And despite what you think or feel, it’s not anti-semitic to assume that someone is Jewish. And it’s also not anti-semitic to mock those who defend genocide and nations that repeatedly violate international law.

Lastly, there’s no hatred. Full stop.

DP.

You were WAY out of line. Give yourself a timeout.

OK.

In my absence, try to spend some time thinking about the million + innocent, non-combatant individuals in Gaza right now who cannot take a timeout from the 24/7 nightmare that is the only “life” available to them.

[Anonymous]

As Palestinians continue to starve, IDF plans to force the population into concentration camps

https://x.com/Kahlissee/status/1919741633450414150

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu and the IDF didn’t act for 8 hours. Why?

Why hasn’t Israel done more to get their hostages? Why?

Why are conservatives in Israel shaming extraordinarily brave, honorable and obviously elderly Holocaust survivors protesting the starvation in Gaza? How in the hell could anyone condone counterprotesting these principled people?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/25/we-have-lost-our-humanity-holocaust-survivors-call-for-end-to-war-in-gaza

Do you know how the Israeli military works?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?

Fertility rate in Gaza is 3.6 - 7.0 children per childbearing aged woman, each of the last 30 years.

Makes no sense to have non-stop kids in poverty, no job, region run by religious terrorists.
What’s going on?

The poorest countries of the world also have the highest fertility rates. It’s always been the case.

Contraception and abortion are usually restricted by "authorities", in Gaza case - Hamas.

Women have zero rights in Palestine. Their role is to pop out babies.

That sounds more like the Jewish settlers who don’t think women should learn to read or leave the house, just make babies.

The percentage of educated women is one of the highest in the world with Palestinians.

Female literacy and education rates are nearly identical for Israelis and Palestinians. However women’s percentage in the workforce is much higher in Israel.

Percentage in the workforce is higher in Israel more generally relative to Palestine. Hard to create jobs when there's a constant fear of attack and bombs dropping.

I have no love of Israel and what they do in the West Bank is terrible and their behavior towards Palestinians are terrible, but they've also educated Palestinians and given them jobs and in return Palestine has unleashed terror on them. They just can't get over their hatred and desire to annihilate Israel. They'd rather live in a backwards religious country than develop their waterfront and make peace. They would actually have more clout worldwide if they would actually create something useful for the world instead of just fighting and garnering sympathy while people sit and wonder why no other Arab nation is helping them. Eventually they will completely lose out. No American is able to control Israel. We feel bad for both sides, but Palestine is a group of lost people that sold themselves to a terrorist organization and now is losing.

This is news to me. So Israel paid for all or most of the education for Palestinians including in Gaza?

[Anonymous]

The PPs who have spread their toxicity over to this thread from the endless Israel/Gaza thread should be ashamed of themselves. Instead of talking about the plight of starving children, they're only interested in scoring points and outdoing each other with Zionist/anti-Zionist rhetoric. The whole world is tired of this whole debate and your endless arguments and counter arguments. Regardless of what events led to where the Gazans find themselves today, CHILDREN ARE DYING BEFORE OUR EYES.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?

Fertility rate in Gaza is 3.6 - 7.0 children per childbearing aged woman, each of the last 30 years.

Makes no sense to have non-stop kids in poverty, no job, region run by religious terrorists.
What’s going on?

The poorest countries of the world also have the highest fertility rates. It’s always been the case.

Contraception and abortion are usually restricted by "authorities", in Gaza case - Hamas.

Women have zero rights in Palestine. Their role is to pop out babies.

That sounds more like the Jewish settlers who don’t think women should learn to read or leave the house, just make babies.

The percentage of educated women is one of the highest in the world with Palestinians.

Female literacy and education rates are nearly identical for Israelis and Palestinians. However women’s percentage in the workforce is much higher in Israel.

Percentage in the workforce is higher in Israel more generally relative to Palestine. Hard to create jobs when there's a constant fear of attack and bombs dropping.

Fear of attack like what happened at a musical festival to innocent civilians?

Hmm …

What is the greater tragedy?

A. 1,125 dead Israelis, over 300 of whom were active duty security services and another several hundred of whom had served dishonorably in the IDF.

or

B. 35,000 dead women and children in Gaza, none of whom voted for Hamas.

No one buys Hamas’ reports of the number of dead in this conflict.

The Economist just published an article saying the actual number of dead is actually much much higher. Why? Because Gaza does not have equipment to lift/search the rubble. So there thousands of bodies still buried under all the rubble.

Just one example of Hamas lies

https://www.euronews.com/2025/04/03/hamas-run-health-ministry-quietly-removes-thousands-from-gaza-death-toll-researchers-find

The Economist is now Hamas?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?

Fertility rate in Gaza is 3.6 - 7.0 children per childbearing aged woman, each of the last 30 years.

Makes no sense to have non-stop kids in poverty, no job, region run by religious terrorists.
What’s going on?

The poorest countries of the world also have the highest fertility rates. It’s always been the case.

Contraception and abortion are usually restricted by "authorities", in Gaza case - Hamas.

Women have zero rights in Palestine. Their role is to pop out babies.

That sounds more like the Jewish settlers who don’t think women should learn to read or leave the house, just make babies.

The percentage of educated women is one of the highest in the world with Palestinians.

Female literacy and education rates are nearly identical for Israelis and Palestinians. However women’s percentage in the workforce is much higher in Israel.

Percentage in the workforce is higher in Israel more generally relative to Palestine. Hard to create jobs when there's a constant fear of attack and bombs dropping.

Fear of attack like what happened at a musical festival to innocent civilians?

Hmm …

What is the greater tragedy?

A. 1,125 dead Israelis, over 300 of whom were active duty security services and another several hundred of whom had served dishonorably in the IDF.

or

B. 35,000 dead women and children in Gaza, none of whom voted for Hamas.

No one buys Hamas’ reports of the number of dead in this conflict.

The Economist just published an article saying the actual number of dead is actually much much higher. Why? Because Gaza does not have equipment to lift/search the rubble. So there thousands of bodies still buried under all the rubble.

Just one example of Hamas lies

https://www.euronews.com/2025/04/03/hamas-run-health-ministry-quietly-removes-thousands-from-gaza-death-toll-researchers-find

The Economist is now Hamas?

Yes anyone who says something not nice about Israel or humanizes Palestinians is Hamas. Even someone else kind as Miss Rachel is a victim of the propaganda

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/09/stop-antisemitism-ms-rachel-doj-investigation

[Anonymous]

The Economist is hardly a pro-Palestinian publication. Quite the opposite. If it is saying the death toll is closer to 100,000, then that is saying something.


https://www.economist.com/interactive/middle-east-and-africa/2025/05/08/how-many-people-have-died-in-gaza

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Netanyahu and the IDF didn’t act for 8 hours. Why?

Why hasn’t Israel done more to get their hostages? Why?

Why are conservatives in Israel shaming extraordinarily brave, honorable and obviously elderly Holocaust survivors protesting the starvation in Gaza? How in the hell could anyone condone counterprotesting these principled people?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/25/we-have-lost-our-humanity-holocaust-survivors-call-for-end-to-war-in-gaza

Do you know how the Israeli military works?

Is this your version of combat? lol, totally makes sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How many children does each enslaved woman there have again? What’s the fertility rate?

Fertility rate in Gaza is 3.6 - 7.0 children per childbearing aged woman, each of the last 30 years.

Makes no sense to have non-stop kids in poverty, no job, region run by religious terrorists.
What’s going on?

The poorest countries of the world also have the highest fertility rates. It’s always been the case.

Contraception and abortion are usually restricted by "authorities", in Gaza case - Hamas.

Women have zero rights in Palestine. Their role is to pop out babies.

That sounds more like the Jewish settlers who don’t think women should learn to read or leave the house, just make babies.

The percentage of educated women is one of the highest in the world with Palestinians.

Female literacy and education rates are nearly identical for Israelis and Palestinians. However women’s percentage in the workforce is much higher in Israel.

Percentage in the workforce is higher in Israel more generally relative to Palestine. Hard to create jobs when there's a constant fear of attack and bombs dropping.

Fear of attack like what happened at a musical festival to innocent civilians?

Hmm …

What is the greater tragedy?

A. 1,125 dead Israelis, over 300 of whom were active duty security services and another several hundred of whom had served dishonorably in the IDF.

or

B. 35,000 dead women and children in Gaza, none of whom voted for Hamas.

No one buys Hamas’ reports of the number of dead in this conflict.

Hamas has treated PLO people horribly for years. And force them to stay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And if the Palestinians are all doctors and reasonable, why haven't they been able to create Trump's vision for Gaza? Why did they attack Israel? Why haven't they been able to create a capitalistic country alongside a beautiful beach? It isn't just the government.

Silly post. Palestine is one of the poorest areas on earth. That’s what happens when you live under occupation, apartheid and a blockade.

Hamas had multiple multi billionaire politicians with many more millionaires. Palestine only has a GDP of 17 billion. Yet, it's somehow all Israel's fault.

Harboring Russian and terrorist money is lucrative.