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Anonymous wrote:Jewish America needs to get control of these places and end the Jew quotas. Revenge is a dish….

There are no Jew quotas. Penn’s Jewish population has declined in recent years — but so has its white population. When I was an undergrad there, the school was about 30 or 40 percent Jewish, but it was also much whiter than it is now. It’s not an antisemitic conspiracy that has led to a decline in Jewish enrollment, it’s just math (if most Jewish students are white, and white students make up a declining share of the student body, the share of Jewish students will also decline).

White Schmite Jews are being excluded and you know it. Basically, merit based schools will be Asians and Jews. Period.

This is a wild accusation. There are no quotas for Jews and haven’t been for a long time. If there were any shred of evidence of this, law suits would have filed immediately. As another poster stated, the decline in the Jewish population is just a corollary to the decline in the white population. Some of that was due to affirmative action — WHICH IS NOW OVER — but a lot also is just because in recent decades US demographics esp for young people include more non-white people generally.

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Anonymous wrote:Magill was fired because a subset of wealthy pro-Israel donors demanded that she abandon the tenets of academic freedom and she didn’t comply. The same thing may happen to Gay and Kornbluth. This is an especially dark time in our country.

+1. There has absolutely been consistency in universities enforcing academic freedom and allowing freedom of speech. The pro Israeli crowd is just frustrated that people are putting Israel in the hot seat and want to curb free speech because of that. The students did nothing wrong that comes even close to threats, misconduct or harassment.

A USC professor in video hoped that all the Palestinians would die. I hope you all advocate that he gets fired too.

I consider myself pro Israel and am all about free speech, including critique of Israel and outright antisemitism. Racist and antisemitic, bigoted speech is protected.

But when you start threatening people, calling for their deaths, and celebrating their their killers as heroes, when you start following Jewish students (in this case) around campus and blocking their way to class (in the case of Harvard), that crossed a line in to threats and bullying. And that has no place on a college campus - or anywhere. That these presidents couldn’t say something definitive on this front is shameful.

And yes, anyone calling for the death of students, faculty, etc should be expelled / fired immediately.

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Anonymous wrote:Pathetic on the part of the university presidents. It is hard to believe that the words uttered by some of these protesters do not violate the universities' policies WRT intimidation and bullying.
Their responses sounded like they spent too much time consulting with university legal counsel instead of using common sense and truth.

Even those on the left agree:

QThis is so misleading, nobody supports the words “genocide of Jews”, Stefanik ‘s actual question was that Intifada and River to the Sea translates to genocide of Jews and that’s an incorrect interpretation. Stefanik as always is vile and despicable.

Uh, yes they do. It’s called Hamas and it calls for the killing of Jews as part of its
Charter. And this is the group that Israel is trying to protect itself from and that all of the anti-Israel crew are cheering for. Stop the gaslighting.

That poster obviously meant that no one *on their campuses* had been chanting with those words. And don’t start with intifada or river-to-the-sea. The hypo used the words “genocide of Jews” on purpose to make it as outrageous as possible.

Yeah, I’ll start with the facts that from the river to the sea is about annihilating Isreal and is absolutely about eradicating Jews from the region. Something that groups in the region have tried for decades - predating Israel by centuries. Jews are indigenous to that region.

so stop gaslighting. We all know what these anti-Israel chants are about. The dog whistles. We get it. Never thought in million years I’d agree with Elise Stefanik on anything ever. But on this, I do.

The fact you started with is wrong. From the river to the sea does not mean annihilating Israel. It just means the Palestinians want to return to their ancestral homes that were stolen from them.

Do you even know what gaslighting means? Seems like you are really struggling with its definition.

We all know this we all know that. What DO you know other than claiming that anyone speaking up for the humanity of Palestinians is an anti Semite. You know nothing Jon Snow.

Yes. You are gaslighting. River to the sea is about eradicating Israel. Stop deflecting, stop pretending, just stop.

The same people who were silent or even openly joyous at the devastation of 10/7, who couldn’t even bring themselves to express concern or condemn Hamas, who held up swastikas and and called Jews colonizers, who openly delighted in Hamas’ “resistance” and who defend those tearing down hostage posters, want us to think that there’s no anti semitism and river to the sea is just some ordinary tune. We know what it means.

So stop gaslighting and stop defending / denying antisemitism. Those of us who’ve experienced it, know what antisemitism is. Always ridiculous telling people who experience bigotry because of their religion or color that they don’t know what that bigotry is.

YOU are doing just that “ridiculous” thing when you dismiss Palestinians and put words in pro-Palestinian protestors’ mouths.

[Anonymous]

Was it all a ploy for Stefanik to solidify her choice as a Trump VP?

Raskin on Stefanik today
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo199877701804

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was it all a ploy for Stefanik to solidify her choice as a Trump VP?

Raskin on Stefanik today
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo199877701804

Ploy is a weird word for that. So what if she wanted to raise her profile? The right’s disdain for the Ivy League is well-known and in this instance it’s hard to think Stefanik’s beef wasn’t sincere.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Was it all a ploy for Stefanik to solidify her choice as a Trump VP?

Raskin on Stefanik today
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo199877701804

Ploy is a weird word for that. So what if she wanted to raise her profile? The right’s disdain for the Ivy League is well-known and in this instance it’s hard to think Stefanik’s beef wasn’t sincere.

Really? Because a lot of us are wondering where her concern for the Jews was when she was giving support to the Great Replacement theory.

If you mean she was really looking for ways to make the Ivy League look bad and herself look good then I guess she was “sincere”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was it all a ploy for Stefanik to solidify her choice as a Trump VP?

Raskin on Stefanik today
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo199877701804

Ploy is a weird word for that. So what if she wanted to raise her profile? The right’s disdain for the Ivy League is well-known and in this instance it’s hard to think Stefanik’s beef wasn’t sincere.

Really? Because a lot of us are wondering where her concern for the Jews was when she was giving support to the Great Replacement theory.

If you mean she was really looking for ways to make the Ivy League look bad and herself look good then I guess she was “sincere”.

It’s mostly about equal application of free speech rules on campus, not anti-semitism per se.

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Anonymous wrote:Pathetic on the part of the university presidents. It is hard to believe that the words uttered by some of these protesters do not violate the universities' policies WRT intimidation and bullying.
Their responses sounded like they spent too much time consulting with university legal counsel instead of using common sense and truth.

Even those on the left agree:

QThis is so misleading, nobody supports the words “genocide of Jews”, Stefanik ‘s actual question was that Intifada and River to the Sea translates to genocide of Jews and that’s an incorrect interpretation. Stefanik as always is vile and despicable.

Uh, yes they do. It’s called Hamas and it calls for the killing of Jews as part of its
Charter. And this is the group that Israel is trying to protect itself from and that all of the anti-Israel crew are cheering for. Stop the gaslighting.

That poster obviously meant that no one *on their campuses* had been chanting with those words. And don’t start with intifada or river-to-the-sea. The hypo used the words “genocide of Jews” on purpose to make it as outrageous as possible.

Yeah, I’ll start with the facts that from the river to the sea is about annihilating Isreal and is absolutely about eradicating Jews from the region. Something that groups in the region have tried for decades - predating Israel by centuries. Jews are indigenous to that region.

so stop gaslighting. We all know what these anti-Israel chants are about. The dog whistles. We get it. Never thought in million years I’d agree with Elise Stefanik on anything ever. But on this, I do.

The fact you started with is wrong. From the river to the sea does not mean annihilating Israel. It just means the Palestinians want to return to their ancestral homes that were stolen from them.

Do you even know what gaslighting means? Seems like you are really struggling with its definition.

We all know this we all know that. What DO you know other than claiming that anyone speaking up for the humanity of Palestinians is an anti Semite. You know nothing Jon Snow.

Yes. You are gaslighting. River to the sea is about eradicating Israel. Stop deflecting, stop pretending, just stop.

The same people who were silent or even openly joyous at the devastation of 10/7, who couldn’t even bring themselves to express concern or condemn Hamas, who held up swastikas and and called Jews colonizers, who openly delighted in Hamas’ “resistance” and who defend those tearing down hostage posters, want us to think that there’s no anti semitism and river to the sea is just some ordinary tune. We know what it means.

So stop gaslighting and stop defending / denying antisemitism. Those of us who’ve experienced it, know what antisemitism is. Always ridiculous telling people who experience bigotry because of their religion or color that they don’t know what that bigotry is.

YOU are doing just that “ridiculous” thing when you dismiss Palestinians and put words in pro-Palestinian protestors’ mouths.

Because the pro Palestinian folks speak in code and say offensive and anti Semitic things in sneaky ways, to have the effect of deniability while their meaning is clear.

[Anonymous]

Was Magill president when the Penn female swimmers complained about sexual harassment from Lia Thomas and reportedly were threatened with having their scholarships revoked in response?

I’m genuinely asking; I don’t know which Penn president oversaw that incident.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was it all a ploy for Stefanik to solidify her choice as a Trump VP?

Raskin on Stefanik today
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo199877701804

Ploy is a weird word for that. So what if she wanted to raise her profile? The right’s disdain for the Ivy League is well-known and in this instance it’s hard to think Stefanik’s beef wasn’t sincere.

Really? Because a lot of us are wondering where her concern for the Jews was when she was giving support to the Great Replacement theory.

If you mean she was really looking for ways to make the Ivy League look bad and herself look good then I guess she was “sincere”.

The Ivy League made themselves look bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Pathetic on the part of the university presidents. It is hard to believe that the words uttered by some of these protesters do not violate the universities' policies WRT intimidation and bullying.
Their responses sounded like they spent too much time consulting with university legal counsel instead of using common sense and truth.

Even those on the left agree:

QThis is so misleading, nobody supports the words “genocide of Jews”, Stefanik ‘s actual question was that Intifada and River to the Sea translates to genocide of Jews and that’s an incorrect interpretation. Stefanik as always is vile and despicable.

Uh, yes they do. It’s called Hamas and it calls for the killing of Jews as part of its
Charter. And this is the group that Israel is trying to protect itself from and that all of the anti-Israel crew are cheering for. Stop the gaslighting.

That poster obviously meant that no one *on their campuses* had been chanting with those words. And don’t start with intifada or river-to-the-sea. The hypo used the words “genocide of Jews” on purpose to make it as outrageous as possible.

Yeah, I’ll start with the facts that from the river to the sea is about annihilating Isreal and is absolutely about eradicating Jews from the region. Something that groups in the region have tried for decades - predating Israel by centuries. Jews are indigenous to that region.

so stop gaslighting. We all know what these anti-Israel chants are about. The dog whistles. We get it. Never thought in million years I’d agree with Elise Stefanik on anything ever. But on this, I do.

The fact you started with is wrong. From the river to the sea does not mean annihilating Israel. It just means the Palestinians want to return to their ancestral homes that were stolen from them.

Do you even know what gaslighting means? Seems like you are really struggling with its definition.

We all know this we all know that. What DO you know other than claiming that anyone speaking up for the humanity of Palestinians is an anti Semite. You know nothing Jon Snow.

Yes. You are gaslighting. River to the sea is about eradicating Israel. Stop deflecting, stop pretending, just stop.

The same people who were silent or even openly joyous at the devastation of 10/7, who couldn’t even bring themselves to express concern or condemn Hamas, who held up swastikas and and called Jews colonizers, who openly delighted in Hamas’ “resistance” and who defend those tearing down hostage posters, want us to think that there’s no anti semitism and river to the sea is just some ordinary tune. We know what it means.

So stop gaslighting and stop defending / denying antisemitism. Those of us who’ve experienced it, know what antisemitism is. Always ridiculous telling people who experience bigotry because of their religion or color that they don’t know what that bigotry is.

YOU are doing just that “ridiculous” thing when you dismiss Palestinians and put words in pro-Palestinian protestors’ mouths.

Because the pro Palestinian folks speak in code and say offensive and anti Semitic things in sneaky ways, to have the effect of deniability while their meaning is clear.

+1

It’s the 21st century equivalent of “those people”.

The bigotry and hatred from many of the hard-core protesters is ridiculously transparent.

What’s pathetic is that many of their well-intentioned “allies” on the left are willing to excuse it.

They’re complicit in grotesque hatred.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was it all a ploy for Stefanik to solidify her choice as a Trump VP?

Raskin on Stefanik today
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo199877701804

Ploy is a weird word for that. So what if she wanted to raise her profile? The right’s disdain for the Ivy League is well-known and in this instance it’s hard to think Stefanik’s beef wasn’t sincere.

Hypocrite Stefanik went to Harvard. You need to turn off Fox News.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pathetic on the part of the university presidents. It is hard to believe that the words uttered by some of these protesters do not violate the universities' policies WRT intimidation and bullying.
Their responses sounded like they spent too much time consulting with university legal counsel instead of using common sense and truth.

Even those on the left agree:

QThis is so misleading, nobody supports the words “genocide of Jews”, Stefanik ‘s actual question was that Intifada and River to the Sea translates to genocide of Jews and that’s an incorrect interpretation. Stefanik as always is vile and despicable.

Uh, yes they do. It’s called Hamas and it calls for the killing of Jews as part of its
Charter. And this is the group that Israel is trying to protect itself from and that all of the anti-Israel crew are cheering for. Stop the gaslighting.

That poster obviously meant that no one *on their campuses* had been chanting with those words. And don’t start with intifada or river-to-the-sea. The hypo used the words “genocide of Jews” on purpose to make it as outrageous as possible.

Yeah, I’ll start with the facts that from the river to the sea is about annihilating Isreal and is absolutely about eradicating Jews from the region. Something that groups in the region have tried for decades - predating Israel by centuries. Jews are indigenous to that region.

so stop gaslighting. We all know what these anti-Israel chants are about. The dog whistles. We get it. Never thought in million years I’d agree with Elise Stefanik on anything ever. But on this, I do.

The fact you started with is wrong. From the river to the sea does not mean annihilating Israel. It just means the Palestinians want to return to their ancestral homes that were stolen from them.

Do you even know what gaslighting means? Seems like you are really struggling with its definition.

We all know this we all know that. What DO you know other than claiming that anyone speaking up for the humanity of Palestinians is an anti Semite. You know nothing Jon Snow.

Yes. You are gaslighting. River to the sea is about eradicating Israel. Stop deflecting, stop pretending, just stop.

The same people who were silent or even openly joyous at the devastation of 10/7, who couldn’t even bring themselves to express concern or condemn Hamas, who held up swastikas and and called Jews colonizers, who openly delighted in Hamas’ “resistance” and who defend those tearing down hostage posters, want us to think that there’s no anti semitism and river to the sea is just some ordinary tune. We know what it means.

So stop gaslighting and stop defending / denying antisemitism. Those of us who’ve experienced it, know what antisemitism is. Always ridiculous telling people who experience bigotry because of their religion or color that they don’t know what that bigotry is.

YOU are doing just that “ridiculous” thing when you dismiss Palestinians and put words in pro-Palestinian protestors’ mouths.

Because the pro Palestinian folks speak in code and say offensive and anti Semitic things in sneaky ways, to have the effect of deniability while their meaning is clear.

Okay so you’re a mind reader and are de-coding those “sneaky” people! You sound just like anti-Semites talking about the conspiracies of the “clever” Jews.

Or… plenty of protesters are voicing legitimate grievances and dismissing them all as bent on the annihilation of Jews makes you look nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was it all a ploy for Stefanik to solidify her choice as a Trump VP?

Raskin on Stefanik today
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo199877701804

Ploy is a weird word for that. So what if she wanted to raise her profile? The right’s disdain for the Ivy League is well-known and in this instance it’s hard to think Stefanik’s beef wasn’t sincere.

Hypocrite Stefanik went to Harvard. You need to turn off Fox News.

What’s your point? She knows first-hand that the school lets progressive students walk all over it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pathetic on the part of the university presidents. It is hard to believe that the words uttered by some of these protesters do not violate the universities' policies WRT intimidation and bullying.
Their responses sounded like they spent too much time consulting with university legal counsel instead of using common sense and truth.

Even those on the left agree:

QThis is so misleading, nobody supports the words “genocide of Jews”, Stefanik ‘s actual question was that Intifada and River to the Sea translates to genocide of Jews and that’s an incorrect interpretation. Stefanik as always is vile and despicable.

Uh, yes they do. It’s called Hamas and it calls for the killing of Jews as part of its
Charter. And this is the group that Israel is trying to protect itself from and that all of the anti-Israel crew are cheering for. Stop the gaslighting.

That poster obviously meant that no one *on their campuses* had been chanting with those words. And don’t start with intifada or river-to-the-sea. The hypo used the words “genocide of Jews” on purpose to make it as outrageous as possible.

Yeah, I’ll start with the facts that from the river to the sea is about annihilating Isreal and is absolutely about eradicating Jews from the region. Something that groups in the region have tried for decades - predating Israel by centuries. Jews are indigenous to that region.

so stop gaslighting. We all know what these anti-Israel chants are about. The dog whistles. We get it. Never thought in million years I’d agree with Elise Stefanik on anything ever. But on this, I do.

The fact you started with is wrong. From the river to the sea does not mean annihilating Israel. It just means the Palestinians want to return to their ancestral homes that were stolen from them.

Do you even know what gaslighting means? Seems like you are really struggling with its definition.

We all know this we all know that. What DO you know other than claiming that anyone speaking up for the humanity of Palestinians is an anti Semite. You know nothing Jon Snow.

Yes. You are gaslighting. River to the sea is about eradicating Israel. Stop deflecting, stop pretending, just stop.

The same people who were silent or even openly joyous at the devastation of 10/7, who couldn’t even bring themselves to express concern or condemn Hamas, who held up swastikas and and called Jews colonizers, who openly delighted in Hamas’ “resistance” and who defend those tearing down hostage posters, want us to think that there’s no anti semitism and river to the sea is just some ordinary tune. We know what it means.

So stop gaslighting and stop defending / denying antisemitism. Those of us who’ve experienced it, know what antisemitism is. Always ridiculous telling people who experience bigotry because of their religion or color that they don’t know what that bigotry is.

YOU are doing just that “ridiculous” thing when you dismiss Palestinians and put words in pro-Palestinian protestors’ mouths.

Because the pro Palestinian folks speak in code and say offensive and anti Semitic things in sneaky ways, to have the effect of deniability while their meaning is clear.

+1

It’s the 21st century equivalent of “those people”.

The bigotry and hatred from many of the hard-core protesters is ridiculously transparent.

What’s pathetic is that many of their well-intentioned “allies” on the left are willing to excuse it.

They’re complicit in grotesque hatred.

Well I guess that means it was 20th century version of “those people” when Netanyahu was saying it - but you’re okay with that. I see.