
Our year they didn’t let two kids on the 12 team that should have been. The coaches manipulated the vote so their kids could get on and took it away from others. This was about 5-7 years ago. Shady then so not surprised still having issues. |
LL is a wonderful organization but becomes completely toxic at age 12 due to all stars. The coaches and dads go completely crazy and it ruins the entire 12u year for everyone. Saw it happen in both my sons’ years. Totally ruined a great LL experience- and my kids both made the AS teams so is not sour grapes. My older son is playing high school baseball and there is STILL animosity among 2 dads due to little league all star BS, years ago. IMO they should get rid of all stars altogether- none of the dad coaches or board members can handle the process responsibly IME. Something about it makes otherwise good dads go absolutely crazy. Never seen anything else like it, and I have 3 kids who have played a lot of sports. Probably the same for every league.
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The problem is LLI gets $80 million from ESPN for the LLWS. The players are the grist for that mill. |
Don't worry- he will move to Cap City LL as GDS is no longer in the NWLL zone |
Inside knowledge? |
Um, GDS is not known for baseball. Just for being overpriced. And I'm quite sure its coaches are not in high demand, is that guy even a meaningful coach there? I don't see him listed on their Varisty page. Taking a little break from the NWLL nonsense above (which all seem to agree needs fixing), these coddled 12Us coming out of there with a history of getting their way via cheating parents are in for a bit of a rude awakening when baseball becomes about things like how good you are and how hard you work and how little your parents are involved. |
I remember a really good player got cut off as a 12 year old bc he had spent a summer away from DC as an 11 year old. He really would have helped and I think the kid who shouldn’t have been on the team but dadded his way on ended up losing the game for them in Conn. Karma. |
According to the report parents were shouting “cheater” at him during games already. Hopefully he gets more of that and the parents who don’t know have to find out to explain to their coaches. And those umps should be addressed. |
My brother always calls the LLWS the “exploitation of youth.” I laughed at it until I saw the toxicity first hand in my son’s 11 and 12 years. All star at 11, but we saw the sketchy behavior with the 12s all stars coaches. Was one left behind at 12s to fit the switch over from the town’s other little league and recruited off the travel team boys (my son was on the same travel team so we knew the connection immediately). The coaches said “we want to go on a run (in the tournament).” Team finished exactly where they do every year... |
Obviously there are major issues here to be addressed. But as a parent of a small boy who loves baseball and loved his totally-for-fun LL team, I can’t help but wish the approach had been different here? Fifty-page documents going out to parents of six-year-olds who have nothing to do with this? Naming children in messages sent to hundreds of people? Whatever problems need to be tackled, which seem to mostly involve older kids, do we need to steal the joy from everyone else? Please stop drawing the rest of us into your infighting… I did not need to get another one of these dramatic emails the night before the first game of the season for a bunch of excited first graders. |
Well said… Thank the AAA commissioners.. Hope your child enjoys the first game! |
They are trying to fix this so that when it's your kid's turn, he doesn't end LL on a downnote. I get that it's easier to put your head in the sand and pretend that these issues only affect older kids and it's not your problem, but it's a whole league issue and needs to be addressed. Smaller, subtler efforts did not appear to work. |
+1. And maybe if the emails bother you so much, just ignore them? |
There is apparently an in-person NWLL Board Meeting tomorrow night (September 10th) at Stoddert Elementary. |
Yep. Excited 6 year olds become disappointed 11 year olds faster than you think. And it's a sort of demoralizing switcheroo for the kid. They play along for multiple seasons getting good encouragement and positivity from the parent-coaches. And then one season they are mysteriously sidelined--the coach already has picked out his pitchers and other key players before the first practice, and opportunity for growth no longer exists. |