Told by christian friend that my lifelong depression is because I don’t “know Jesus”

[Anonymous]

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On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

Let me give you some concrete examples since this is clearly a basic stumbling block for you. Do you say things like "you do you" or "that's my truth"? if so, you are living out your life assuming no God. Do you believe everyone can decide their own meaning to life? I know you do based on past posts. Guess what, you are saying no/irrelevant God. So please stop pretending you don't believe in anything. I know it's tempting to say that because if you don't believe in anything, you don't have to justify anything and can never be proven wrong. And because atheism is really quite dead and has nothing positive to add to the conversation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy.

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

[Anonymous]

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On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy.

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

NP. Looks like you’re the dishonest interlocutor. She answered quite cogently. You didn’t like her answer so you come back with insults.

[Anonymous]

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On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy.

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

NP. Looks like you’re the dishonest interlocutor. She answered quite cogently. You didn’t like her answer so you come back with insults.

Absolutely false. Question not answered.

[Anonymous]

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On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy.

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

NP. Looks like you’re the dishonest interlocutor. She answered quite cogently. You didn’t like her answer so you come back with insults.

Absolutely false. Question not answered.

Here’s an idea: instead of trolling the Religion forum, get a life.

[Anonymous]

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On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy. [/quote in]

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

NP. Looks like you’re the dishonest interlocutor. She answered quite cogently. You didn’t like her answer so you come back with insults.

Absolutely false. Question not answered.

Here’s an idea: instead of trolling the Religion forum, get a life.

So you have time for insults, but won’t answer the question?

Guess how that looks?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy. [/quote in]

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

NP. Looks like you’re the dishonest interlocutor. She answered quite cogently. You didn’t like her answer so you come back with insults.

Absolutely false. Question not answered.

Here’s an idea: instead of trolling the Religion forum, get a life.

So you have time for insults, but won’t answer the question?

Guess how that looks?

You threw the first insults. Again: get a life.

[Anonymous]

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You threw the first insults. Again: get a life.

No, I never insulted you personally. No pejoratives, no juvenile “get a life”. Just trying to have a discussion.

You won’t answer the question because it will show flaw in your argument. That’s fine ,anyone can see that.

[Anonymous]

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On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy.

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

NP. Looks like you’re the dishonest interlocutor. She answered quite cogently. You didn’t like her answer so you come back with insults.

Absolutely false. Question not answered.

Here’s an idea: instead of trolling the Religion forum, get a life.

That is the poster’s life. They think about religion 24/7/365. Sad.

[Anonymous]

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On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy.

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

NP. Looks like you’re the dishonest interlocutor. She answered quite cogently. You didn’t like her answer so you come back with insults.

Absolutely false. Question not answered.

Here’s an idea: instead of trolling the Religion forum, get a life.

That is the poster’s life. They think about religion 24/7/365. Sad.

So it’s cool when you post here and sad when someone who disagrees with you does?

Yeah that makes perfect sense. No irony there at all.

[Anonymous]

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On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy.

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

NP. Looks like you’re the dishonest interlocutor. She answered quite cogently. You didn’t like her answer so you come back with insults.

Absolutely false. Question not answered.

Here’s an idea: instead of trolling the Religion forum, get a life.

That is the poster’s life. They think about religion 24/7/365. Sad.

So it’s cool when you post here and sad when someone who disagrees with you does?

Yeah that makes perfect sense. No irony there at all.

Why do you think about God everyday? And post about God, Christians, and Christian religious beliefs every day?

[Anonymous]

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On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy.

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

NP. Looks like you’re the dishonest interlocutor. She answered quite cogently. You didn’t like her answer so you come back with insults.

Absolutely false. Question not answered.

Here’s an idea: instead of trolling the Religion forum, get a life.

That is the poster’s life. They think about religion 24/7/365. Sad.

So it’s cool when you post here and sad when someone who disagrees with you does?

Yeah that makes perfect sense. No irony there at all.

Why do you think about God everyday? And post about God, Christians, and Christian religious beliefs every day?

Why do you ask questions but not answer them in return? But I’ve already answered those many times in this thread alone.

Now, will you answer the question I posed about 10 posts back?

[Anonymous]

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On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy.

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

NP. Looks like you’re the dishonest interlocutor. She answered quite cogently. You didn’t like her answer so you come back with insults.

Absolutely false. Question not answered.

Here’s an idea: instead of trolling the Religion forum, get a life.

That is the poster’s life. They think about religion 24/7/365. Sad.

So it’s cool when you post here and sad when someone who disagrees with you does?

Yeah that makes perfect sense. No irony there at all.

Why do you think about God everyday? And post about God, Christians, and Christian religious beliefs every day?

I would like to know the answer to this.

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On the chance there is any doubt what "the question" is:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?[b]

I already told you that is not a proper analogy. "The teapot analogy fails with regard to religion because, with the teapot, the believer and non-believer are [b]simply disagreeing about one item in the universe and may hold in common all other beliefs about the universe, which is not true of an atheist and a theist."

What is so hard for you to understand? This is not about us arguing about some random gumballs that have no bearing at all on the rest of our lives. You are making up a meaningless argument over a meaningless subject that is self contained. I know that is how YOU view religion and that's why it is a "hobby" for you, detached from the rest of life. But that is not how reality is. What we are really arguing about is the basic premise of life and everything you and I do every single day assumes an answer to that question. If every action you took depended on your belief of whether the number of gumballs is an even of odd number, then WITHOUT even raising the issue, we have both assumed an answer and are acting accordingly on a daily basis. We both have equal burdens of proof, if not to each other, then to ourselves, for justifying the way we live our lives.

You didn't answer the question. Despite multiple requests. Wonder why?

Simply answer the question and I will reply to all your other points.

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?

You have my permission to make up whatever response you want, because the question is irrelevant so regardless of how you imagine i would answer, you are living in your own fantasy.

Again you prove to be a dishonest interlocutor. I am only willing to engage with honest interlocutors. I can only presume it is because you cannot support your position since you won’t exchange. If you want to change my mind on that you know how.

NP. Looks like you’re the dishonest interlocutor. She answered quite cogently. You didn’t like her answer so you come back with insults.

Absolutely false. Question not answered.

Here’s an idea: instead of trolling the Religion forum, get a life.

That is the poster’s life. They think about religion 24/7/365. Sad.

So it’s cool when you post here and sad when someone who disagrees with you does?

Yeah that makes perfect sense. No irony there at all.

Why do you think about God everyday? And post about God, Christians, and Christian religious beliefs every day?

I would like to know the answer to this.

As promised previously, I will answer every question you have if you just answer the one I have asked again and again:

Imagine we are walking and in a store window we see a giant jar full of gumballs. I tell you that there is an even number of gumballs in the jar, and say, "you agree, right?".

What do you reply?