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Anonymous wrote:I GREENSHIRTED my kid. He is late September born and missed the kindergarten date by a couple weeks. He had to sit through an entrance exam to get into KG but since he was already academically and socially advanced and so he continued to excel throughout school.

Why should bright, healthy kids with high EQ be held back? He went to college when he was 17. The only drawback of being very young was that he had to wait for his driver's license.

Being a greenshirted kid for many is an embarrassment. Especially when they become the awkward ones who hit puberty sooner than their classmates. We often read in the news when a particularly young student gets into college and that is seen as an achievement. I have yet to hear in the news when an older student gets into college.

So you think it's more of an achievement for a 16-year-old to start at a community college than for an 18-year-old to start at Harvard?

They are both equal achievements.

That's not what grad schools and employers seem to think. Many jobs require people to have degrees from top-ranked universities. I have yet to see a job-posting that requires someone to have attained their degree by a certain age.

Some jobs require it, far less these days than when many of us went to college.

Clearly, those employers have never heard the phrase, "Quality is more important than speed."

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

That's fantastic but our schools didn't offer it and I think my kid is doing pretty well talking pre-calculus freshman year. But, being 13 and doing pre-calculus is pretty good.

I agree that it's pretty good. I am completely aware that there are students on the young end who have excelled, but those students would've done even better had they been on the old end. I am also aware that there are students on the old end who have struggled, but those students would've done even worse had they been on the young end. I mean, why settle for being vice-president when you could be president?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

That's fantastic but our schools didn't offer it and I think my kid is doing pretty well talking pre-calculus freshman year. But, being 13 and doing pre-calculus is pretty good.

I agree that it's pretty good. I am completely aware that there are students on the young end who have excelled, but those students would've done even better had they been on the old end. I am also aware that there are students on the old end who have struggled, but those students would've done even worse had they been on the young end. I mean, why settle for being vice-president when you could be president?

Not everyone wants to be president or wants their kids to be president. My kid gets straight A's so I'm not sure how much better you think they could or should be doing. That isn't good enough for doing well?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

That's fantastic but our schools didn't offer it and I think my kid is doing pretty well talking pre-calculus freshman year. But, being 13 and doing pre-calculus is pretty good.

I agree that it's pretty good. I am completely aware that there are students on the young end who have excelled, but those students would've done even better had they been on the old end. I am also aware that there are students on the old end who have struggled, but those students would've done even worse had they been on the young end. I mean, why settle for being vice-president when you could be president?

Not everyone wants to be president or wants their kids to be president. My kid gets straight A's so I'm not sure how much better you think they could or should be doing. That isn't good enough for doing well?

My nephew is doing pretty bad, despite having a January birthday. He's entering 9th grade, and will be taking Geometry, while most of his friends will be taking Algebra II, despite being younger than him. However, it is possible to take Algebra I in 9th grade, so if my nephew were younger than his classmates, he could very well be taking Algebra I in 9th grade. The 2nd-lowest math-track is pretty bad, but the lowest is even worse.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

That's fantastic but our schools didn't offer it and I think my kid is doing pretty well talking pre-calculus freshman year. But, being 13 and doing pre-calculus is pretty good.

I agree that it's pretty good. I am completely aware that there are students on the young end who have excelled, but those students would've done even better had they been on the old end. I am also aware that there are students on the old end who have struggled, but those students would've done even worse had they been on the young end. I mean, why settle for being vice-president when you could be president?

Not everyone wants to be president or wants their kids to be president. My kid gets straight A's so I'm not sure how much better you think they could or should be doing. That isn't good enough for doing well?

My nephew is doing pretty bad, despite having a January birthday. He's entering 9th grade, and will be taking Geometry, while most of his friends will be taking Algebra II, despite being younger than him. However, it is possible to take Algebra I in 9th grade, so if my nephew were younger than his classmates, he could very well be taking Algebra I in 9th grade. The 2nd-lowest math-track is pretty bad, but the lowest is even worse.

Most 9th graders take Geometry - your nephew is fine. People on here are insane...

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

That's fantastic but our schools didn't offer it and I think my kid is doing pretty well talking pre-calculus freshman year. But, being 13 and doing pre-calculus is pretty good.

I agree that it's pretty good. I am completely aware that there are students on the young end who have excelled, but those students would've done even better had they been on the old end. I am also aware that there are students on the old end who have struggled, but those students would've done even worse had they been on the young end. I mean, why settle for being vice-president when you could be president?

Not everyone wants to be president or wants their kids to be president. My kid gets straight A's so I'm not sure how much better you think they could or should be doing. That isn't good enough for doing well?

My nephew is doing pretty bad, despite having a January birthday. He's entering 9th grade, and will be taking Geometry, while most of his friends will be taking Algebra II, despite being younger than him. However, it is possible to take Algebra I in 9th grade, so if my nephew were younger than his classmates, he could very well be taking Algebra I in 9th grade. The 2nd-lowest math-track is pretty bad, but the lowest is even worse.

Most 9th graders take Geometry - your nephew is fine. People on here are insane...

Not where he goes to school.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

That's fantastic but our schools didn't offer it and I think my kid is doing pretty well talking pre-calculus freshman year. But, being 13 and doing pre-calculus is pretty good.

I agree that it's pretty good. I am completely aware that there are students on the young end who have excelled, but those students would've done even better had they been on the old end. I am also aware that there are students on the old end who have struggled, but those students would've done even worse had they been on the young end. I mean, why settle for being vice-president when you could be president?

Not everyone wants to be president or wants their kids to be president. My kid gets straight A's so I'm not sure how much better you think they could or should be doing. That isn't good enough for doing well?

My nephew is doing pretty bad, despite having a January birthday. He's entering 9th grade, and will be taking Geometry, while most of his friends will be taking Algebra II, despite being younger than him. However, it is possible to take Algebra I in 9th grade, so if my nephew were younger than his classmates, he could very well be taking Algebra I in 9th grade. The 2nd-lowest math-track is pretty bad, but the lowest is even worse.

When we were growing up that was a normal track. Now everything is accelerated.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

That's fantastic but our schools didn't offer it and I think my kid is doing pretty well talking pre-calculus freshman year. But, being 13 and doing pre-calculus is pretty good.

I agree that it's pretty good. I am completely aware that there are students on the young end who have excelled, but those students would've done even better had they been on the old end. I am also aware that there are students on the old end who have struggled, but those students would've done even worse had they been on the young end. I mean, why settle for being vice-president when you could be president?

Not everyone wants to be president or wants their kids to be president. My kid gets straight A's so I'm not sure how much better you think they could or should be doing. That isn't good enough for doing well?

My nephew is doing pretty bad, despite having a January birthday. He's entering 9th grade, and will be taking Geometry, while most of his friends will be taking Algebra II, despite being younger than him. However, it is possible to take Algebra I in 9th grade, so if my nephew were younger than his classmates, he could very well be taking Algebra I in 9th grade. The 2nd-lowest math-track is pretty bad, but the lowest is even worse.

Most 9th graders take Geometry - your nephew is fine. People on here are insane...

He is fine and that's a normal track. But, some school systems start Algebra in 6th or 7th. 7th is generally normal around here.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

That's fantastic but our schools didn't offer it and I think my kid is doing pretty well talking pre-calculus freshman year. But, being 13 and doing pre-calculus is pretty good.

I agree that it's pretty good. I am completely aware that there are students on the young end who have excelled, but those students would've done even better had they been on the old end. I am also aware that there are students on the old end who have struggled, but those students would've done even worse had they been on the young end. I mean, why settle for being vice-president when you could be president?

Not everyone wants to be president or wants their kids to be president. My kid gets straight A's so I'm not sure how much better you think they could or should be doing. That isn't good enough for doing well?

My nephew is doing pretty bad, despite having a January birthday. He's entering 9th grade, and will be taking Geometry, while most of his friends will be taking Algebra II, despite being younger than him. However, it is possible to take Algebra I in 9th grade, so if my nephew were younger than his classmates, he could very well be taking Algebra I in 9th grade. The 2nd-lowest math-track is pretty bad, but the lowest is even worse.

Most 9th graders take Geometry - your nephew is fine. People on here are insane...

Not where he goes to school.

Generally, it depends on the student's race and gender. From what I've seen, this is the breakdown for math-tracks from grades 9 through 12.

White boys:

Precalculus
Calculus AB
Calculus BC
Multivariable Calculus

White girls and Asian boys:

Algebra II
Precalculus
Calculus AB
Calculus BC

Asian girls and black boys:

Geometry
Algebra II
Precalculus
Calculus AB

Black girls and Latin-American boys:

Algebra I
Geometry
Algebra II
Precalculus

Latin-American girls:

Pre-Algebra
Algebra I
Geometry
Algebra II

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

That's fantastic but our schools didn't offer it and I think my kid is doing pretty well talking pre-calculus freshman year. But, being 13 and doing pre-calculus is pretty good.

I agree that it's pretty good. I am completely aware that there are students on the young end who have excelled, but those students would've done even better had they been on the old end. I am also aware that there are students on the old end who have struggled, but those students would've done even worse had they been on the young end. I mean, why settle for being vice-president when you could be president?

Not everyone wants to be president or wants their kids to be president. My kid gets straight A's so I'm not sure how much better you think they could or should be doing. That isn't good enough for doing well?

My nephew is doing pretty bad, despite having a January birthday. He's entering 9th grade, and will be taking Geometry, while most of his friends will be taking Algebra II, despite being younger than him. However, it is possible to take Algebra I in 9th grade, so if my nephew were younger than his classmates, he could very well be taking Algebra I in 9th grade. The 2nd-lowest math-track is pretty bad, but the lowest is even worse.

Most 9th graders take Geometry - your nephew is fine. People on here are insane...

Not where he goes to school.

Generally, it depends on the student's race and gender. From what I've seen, this is the breakdown for math-tracks from grades 9 through 12.

White boys:

Precalculus
Calculus AB
Calculus BC
Multivariable Calculus

White girls and Asian boys:

Algebra II
Precalculus
Calculus AB
Calculus BC

Asian girls and black boys:

Geometry
Algebra II
Precalculus
Calculus AB

Black girls and Latin-American boys:

Algebra I
Geometry
Algebra II
Precalculus

Latin-American girls:

Pre-Algebra
Algebra I
Geometry
Algebra II

You must be at at rich school. Ours is not like that at all and very diverse in what kids take. Very few kids start pre-cal. in 9th. Very few.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

That's fantastic but our schools didn't offer it and I think my kid is doing pretty well talking pre-calculus freshman year. But, being 13 and doing pre-calculus is pretty good.

I agree that it's pretty good. I am completely aware that there are students on the young end who have excelled, but those students would've done even better had they been on the old end. I am also aware that there are students on the old end who have struggled, but those students would've done even worse had they been on the young end. I mean, why settle for being vice-president when you could be president?

Not everyone wants to be president or wants their kids to be president. My kid gets straight A's so I'm not sure how much better you think they could or should be doing. That isn't good enough for doing well?

My nephew is doing pretty bad, despite having a January birthday. He's entering 9th grade, and will be taking Geometry, while most of his friends will be taking Algebra II, despite being younger than him. However, it is possible to take Algebra I in 9th grade, so if my nephew were younger than his classmates, he could very well be taking Algebra I in 9th grade. The 2nd-lowest math-track is pretty bad, but the lowest is even worse.

Most 9th graders take Geometry - your nephew is fine. People on here are insane...

Not where he goes to school.

Generally, it depends on the student's race and gender. From what I've seen, this is the breakdown for math-tracks from grades 9 through 12.

White boys:

Precalculus
Calculus AB
Calculus BC
Multivariable Calculus

White girls and Asian boys:

Algebra II
Precalculus
Calculus AB
Calculus BC

Asian girls and black boys:

Geometry
Algebra II
Precalculus
Calculus AB

Black girls and Latin-American boys:

Algebra I
Geometry
Algebra II
Precalculus

Latin-American girls:

Pre-Algebra
Algebra I
Geometry
Algebra II

You must be at at rich school. Ours is not like that at all and very diverse in what kids take. Very few kids start pre-cal. in 9th. Very few.

And certainly not the “white boys”.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

That's fantastic but our schools didn't offer it and I think my kid is doing pretty well talking pre-calculus freshman year. But, being 13 and doing pre-calculus is pretty good.

I agree that it's pretty good. I am completely aware that there are students on the young end who have excelled, but those students would've done even better had they been on the old end. I am also aware that there are students on the old end who have struggled, but those students would've done even worse had they been on the young end. I mean, why settle for being vice-president when you could be president?

Not everyone wants to be president or wants their kids to be president. My kid gets straight A's so I'm not sure how much better you think they could or should be doing. That isn't good enough for doing well?

My nephew is doing pretty bad, despite having a January birthday. He's entering 9th grade, and will be taking Geometry, while most of his friends will be taking Algebra II, despite being younger than him. However, it is possible to take Algebra I in 9th grade, so if my nephew were younger than his classmates, he could very well be taking Algebra I in 9th grade. The 2nd-lowest math-track is pretty bad, but the lowest is even worse.

Most 9th graders take Geometry - your nephew is fine. People on here are insane...

Not where he goes to school.

Generally, it depends on the student's race and gender. From what I've seen, this is the breakdown for math-tracks from grades 9 through 12.

White boys:

Precalculus
Calculus AB
Calculus BC
Multivariable Calculus

White girls and Asian boys:

Algebra II
Precalculus
Calculus AB
Calculus BC

Asian girls and black boys:

Geometry
Algebra II
Precalculus
Calculus AB

Black girls and Latin-American boys:

Algebra I
Geometry
Algebra II
Precalculus

Latin-American girls:

Pre-Algebra
Algebra I
Geometry
Algebra II

You must be at at rich school. Ours is not like that at all and very diverse in what kids take. Very few kids start pre-cal. in 9th. Very few.

And certainly not the “white boys”.

Huh? "White boys" are the highest achieving demographic in STEM.

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My 9th grader is 13, turning 14 in the fall.

Why do people do this to their poor kids??

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So if a kid has a September birthday - should a parent put them in at 4? Or wait till they are 5?

Does DCUM consider this redshirting? At least the kid won't be 17 and going to college.

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Anonymous wrote:So if a kid has a September birthday - should a parent put them in at 4? Or wait till they are 5?

Does DCUM consider this redshirting? At least the kid won't be 17 and going to college.

We sent ours at 4/5. Some school systems and private schools are more flexible and some have a hard cut off. My child will be 17 for a few weeks. No big deal.