8th grader who is 15?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What are you talking about? My child is doing better than some of the oldest kids. My child starting algebra in. 6th also means that they are ahead of other students some several grades above. They don’t allow algebra in 5th. Smart kids should not be held back.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

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I GREENSHIRTED my kid. He is late September born and missed the kindergarten date by a couple weeks. He had to sit through an entrance exam to get into KG but since he was already academically and socially advanced and so he continued to excel throughout school.

Why should bright, healthy kids with high EQ be held back? He went to college when he was 17. The only drawback of being very young was that he had to wait for his driver's license.

Being a greenshirted kid for many is an embarrassment. Especially when they become the awkward ones who hit puberty sooner than their classmates. We often read in the news when a particularly young student gets into college and that is seen as an achievement. I have yet to hear in the news when an older student gets into college.

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Anonymous wrote:I GREENSHIRTED my kid. He is late September born and missed the kindergarten date by a couple weeks. He had to sit through an entrance exam to get into KG but since he was already academically and socially advanced and so he continued to excel throughout school.

Why should bright, healthy kids with high EQ be held back? He went to college when he was 17. The only drawback of being very young was that he had to wait for his driver's license.

Being a greenshirted kid for many is an embarrassment. Especially when they become the awkward ones who hit puberty sooner than their classmates. We often read in the news when a particularly young student gets into college and that is seen as an achievement. I have yet to hear in the news when an older student gets into college.

So you think it's more of an achievement for a 16-year-old to start at a community college than for an 18-year-old to start at Harvard?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

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Anonymous wrote:I GREENSHIRTED my kid. He is late September born and missed the kindergarten date by a couple weeks. He had to sit through an entrance exam to get into KG but since he was already academically and socially advanced and so he continued to excel throughout school.

Why should bright, healthy kids with high EQ be held back? He went to college when he was 17. The only drawback of being very young was that he had to wait for his driver's license.

Being a greenshirted kid for many is an embarrassment. Especially when they become the awkward ones who hit puberty sooner than their classmates. We often read in the news when a particularly young student gets into college and that is seen as an achievement. I have yet to hear in the news when an older student gets into college.

So you think it's more of an achievement for a 16-year-old to start at a community college than for an 18-year-old to start at Harvard?

They are both equal achievements. I'm not planning on my kid going to Harvard as we cannot afford it so its a non-issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sure it would be hard to have a 20 year old senior, fortunately that doesn’t really happen.

There are plenty of 19 year old seniors. Way to old. Especially when some start high school at 13.

If they are 19 during their senior year then they have a fall/spring birthday and were redshirted one year. It's uncommon for fall/spring birthday kids to be redshirted.

So not "plenty".

It is common for spring birthdays, don’t be naive.

Not in the DC area - except for maybe a handful of privates.

+1 I've been a public school teacher in the DC area for 28 years; spring birthday redshirts are definitely rare.

2 neighbors have April birthdays who are both redshirted and my child has a classmate who has a February birthday who is also redshirted.

Where is this?

Did they just start K? Maybe parents were worried about covid since they didn’t have vaccine last fall.

These are all teenage kids so no, not covid related.

Where is this? DC area? Public or private?

Redshirting spring birthdays is uncommon in DC area - except for a handful of private schools. And maybe this batch of covid Kindergarteners.

Yes, dc area and both public and private. No, it is not uncommon, it has been our experience since preschool and I work in the school system. It’s absurd.

Which public school system in the DC area has common spring redshirting?

+1 I’m not really buying it. Occasional, sure. There’s always outliers. But I’ve lived here 12 years and have 2 kids in public school and almost all redshirted kids I know have July-September birthdays. I also know 2 redshirted May/June birthday boys who both had extenuating circumstances, one moved to the US from overseas as a 4 year old and couldn’t adjust to school and the other was a preemie at birth who’s actual due date wasn’t until well into the summer and had some lasting delays due to prematurity. Again, uncommon edge cases and both of the kids had birthdays right around the last day of school anyway. So I guess they’d each be 19 for like 2 weeks of senior year? Oh no, how awful.

Well, I’ve had a February redshirted kid in my class and at least a handful of spring ones every school year.

Which school system? What time of class? General ed?

Probably gifted/honors classes.

I was thinking SpEd.

That makes no sense. The SpEd kids are the kids struggling in school the most, so they are most likely the youngest kids. The honors students are the ones doing the best in school, so they are most likely the oldest kids.

Wrong, my young for the grade kid started algebra in 6th, all honors. Smart kids will do ok.

If he had been old for his grade, he probably would've been in Geometry in 6th grade. Any individual is going to do better as the oldest than as the youngest.

What??? Only intellectually, emotionally or socially slow kids are held back. Or kids with physical issues.

Smart kids will always do well. And if your kid is a math superstar, even then they will not be offered more acceleration than what the school system allows.

The PP's son is on track to take Pre-Calculus his freshman year of high school. I know a few people who took Calculus AB their freshman year.

That's fantastic but our schools didn't offer it and I think my kid is doing pretty well talking pre-calculus freshman year. But, being 13 and doing pre-calculus is pretty good.

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Anonymous wrote:I GREENSHIRTED my kid. He is late September born and missed the kindergarten date by a couple weeks. He had to sit through an entrance exam to get into KG but since he was already academically and socially advanced and so he continued to excel throughout school.

Why should bright, healthy kids with high EQ be held back? He went to college when he was 17. The only drawback of being very young was that he had to wait for his driver's license.

Being a greenshirted kid for many is an embarrassment. Especially when they become the awkward ones who hit puberty sooner than their classmates. We often read in the news when a particularly young student gets into college and that is seen as an achievement. I have yet to hear in the news when an older student gets into college.

So you think it's more of an achievement for a 16-year-old to start at a community college than for an 18-year-old to start at Harvard?

No. 16 yr old getting into Harvard is an accomplishment rather than a 19 yr old.

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Though the 19 yr old who go into Harvard was because of daddy's money like a Kushner. The 16 yr old who got in was probably because of brains.

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We often read in the news when a particularly young student gets into college and that is seen as an achievement.

But in the long-run, their lives aren't any better. When these students are 40, nobody will care that they started college so young. I have a friend who started college when he was 11, graduated at 15, and got his PHD at 20. He was indeed in the news for it, and everyone who knew thought he was pretty smart. Now, he's 38 and though he has a good job, so do a lot of people we know; people who didn't start college at 11. All the praise and glory he was getting 27 years ago has died out. But do you know what hasn't died out? The shyness and social awkwardness he acquired by being so much younger than his classmates. He says that he feels like he missed out on his childhood for nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:I GREENSHIRTED my kid. He is late September born and missed the kindergarten date by a couple weeks. He had to sit through an entrance exam to get into KG but since he was already academically and socially advanced and so he continued to excel throughout school.

Why should bright, healthy kids with high EQ be held back? He went to college when he was 17. The only drawback of being very young was that he had to wait for his driver's license.

Being a greenshirted kid for many is an embarrassment. Especially when they become the awkward ones who hit puberty sooner than their classmates. We often read in the news when a particularly young student gets into college and that is seen as an achievement. I have yet to hear in the news when an older student gets into college.

So you think it's more of an achievement for a 16-year-old to start at a community college than for an 18-year-old to start at Harvard?

No. 16 yr old getting into Harvard is an accomplishment rather than a 19 yr old.

That's not true. Like I said, my friend who graduated with his PHD at 20 has had no more opportunities than those who PHD's in their mid-to-late twenties.

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Anonymous wrote:I GREENSHIRTED my kid. He is late September born and missed the kindergarten date by a couple weeks. He had to sit through an entrance exam to get into KG but since he was already academically and socially advanced and so he continued to excel throughout school.

Why should bright, healthy kids with high EQ be held back? He went to college when he was 17. The only drawback of being very young was that he had to wait for his driver's license.

Being a greenshirted kid for many is an embarrassment. Especially when they become the awkward ones who hit puberty sooner than their classmates. We often read in the news when a particularly young student gets into college and that is seen as an achievement. I have yet to hear in the news when an older student gets into college.

So you think it's more of an achievement for a 16-year-old to start at a community college than for an 18-year-old to start at Harvard?

They are both equal achievements.

That's not what grad schools and employers seem to think. Many jobs require people to have degrees from top-ranked universities. I have yet to see a job-posting that requires someone to have attained their degree by a certain age.

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A person who achieved their degree at a younger age had more time to achieve post grad high level work experience. For example ronan farrow got his JD from Yale law school at 22 and as a student was interning law firms. So after reaching age 18 and legally an adult who can sign any contract and meet most age requirements, his education opened up more opportunities than the average undergrad of the same age.

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Anonymous wrote:I GREENSHIRTED my kid. He is late September born and missed the kindergarten date by a couple weeks. He had to sit through an entrance exam to get into KG but since he was already academically and socially advanced and so he continued to excel throughout school.

Why should bright, healthy kids with high EQ be held back? He went to college when he was 17. The only drawback of being very young was that he had to wait for his driver's license.

Being a greenshirted kid for many is an embarrassment. Especially when they become the awkward ones who hit puberty sooner than their classmates. We often read in the news when a particularly young student gets into college and that is seen as an achievement. I have yet to hear in the news when an older student gets into college.

So you think it's more of an achievement for a 16-year-old to start at a community college than for an 18-year-old to start at Harvard?

They are both equal achievements.

That's not what grad schools and employers seem to think. Many jobs require people to have degrees from top-ranked universities. I have yet to see a job-posting that requires someone to have attained their degree by a certain age.

Some jobs require it, far less these days than when many of us went to college.

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Anonymous wrote:Though the 19 yr old who go into Harvard was because of daddy's money like a Kushner. The 16 yr old who got in was probably because of brains.

A 19-year-old's brain is more developed than a 16-year-old's brain, so that makes no sense.