Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Question for the lawyers in here: Johnny was proceeding to talk about a conversation he had with his lawyers. He stated, “They advised me…”. The defense lawyers objected with hearsay. Judge sustained.

How can his own conversation be hearsay?


Heresay is any statement made out of court by anyone other than the witness that is offered as proof of something.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/hearsay#:~:text=Definition,truth%20of%20whatever%20it%20asserts.

(IANAL, just watch a ton of legal TV)
Anonymous
^Hearsay sorry
Anonymous
Hearsay: and out of court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted.

There are several exceptions (maybe 13) and four exemptions. That’s all I remember from Evidence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think he may win. There are witnesses to her abusing him and medical records to go along. There aren’t witnesses of him abusing her. She is going to struggle to defend herself. Who else could she be talking about in the WaPO article and it was clearly a revenge piece intended to hurt him.

NTM this does make him look manipulated and abused. If he were a woman, movie studios would be lining up to give him movies.


He can't win. He can't prove that she destroyed his career. He's not suing her because she abused him.


Its not like she has the money to give anyway. He's trying to clear his name. He won't get the lost revenue back.
Anonymous
My god every single answer is a 20+ minute actorly ramble.
Anonymous
I think Heard's attorney is terrible. She's giving Depp's team a lot of unnecessary leeway and not objecting enough to issues of hearsay and relevance. Depp is painting a rosy picture of himself and she's letting him when she doesn't have to let him drone on with irrelevant stories about himself.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think Heard's attorney is terrible. She's giving Depp's team a lot of unnecessary leeway and not objecting enough to issues of hearsay and relevance. Depp is painting a rosy picture of himself and she's letting him when she doesn't have to let him drone on with irrelevant stories about himself.


I suppose you could also argue though, that by letting him ramble on, clearly losing the plot at points, you demonstrate to the jury that he’s clearly somewhat of an addled mind, probably from serious abuse of drugs and alcohol. What some see as him painting a rosy picture of himself, others see as him looking out-of-it, and utterly ridiculous as he puffs up his former career.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think he may win. There are witnesses to her abusing him and medical records to go along. There aren’t witnesses of him abusing her. She is going to struggle to defend herself. Who else could she be talking about in the WaPO article and it was clearly a revenge piece intended to hurt him.

NTM this does make him look manipulated and abused. If he were a woman, movie studios would be lining up to give him movies.


He can't win. He can't prove that she destroyed his career. He's not suing her because she abused him.


Its not like she has the money to give anyway. He's trying to clear his name. He won't get the lost revenue back.


The only one who was able to resurrect his career was Robert Downey Jr. and it was only because Mel Gibson paid Downey's insurance bond in 2003. He also didn't make a scene like this clown in court.
Anonymous
Amber Heard left a crap on his side of the bed ?!!!!

Did anyone else hear the testimony?! Omg. I heard it on the news driving home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are people here still so in love with Depp from his Pirates movies or his 21 jump street days? I don't understand how people are supporting him and calling Heard trash. Like, you know he's not going to marry you for supporting him, right? He's not reading this board!


I liked him in his 21 Jump Street days, and really respected that he moved away from being pushed into being a s*x symbol. He's specifically chosen to take roles where he doesn't play one, even if he is a leading man. Kind of like what Harry Styles is struggling to do. I like it. Totally turned off by Johnny's alcoholism. I think the Vanessa years might have been good for him? Haven't followed too closely.


You can type the bolded again!

And he chose to cheat on Vanessa with Amber...

He and Amber deserve each other. Bunch of wackos.

He is not winning this.
Anonymous
Anonymous
OMG:

Johnny Depp accuses Amber Heard of revenge pooping in court testimony today

https://ew.com/celebrity/johnny-depp-testifies-feces-bed-amber-heard-defamation-trial/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Question for the lawyers in here: Johnny was proceeding to talk about a conversation he had with his lawyers. He stated, “They advised me…”. The defense lawyers objected with hearsay. Judge sustained.

How can his own conversation be hearsay?


As PP said, it’s an out of court statement offered for the truth of the matter. It’s odd to me that this would be offered for the truth of whatever the lawyer said, though. I didn’t hear the testimony so I don’t know what it was offered for, but I would think it would be to prove Johnny’s state of mind (eg I didn’t call the cops on her because my lawyer said the police wouldn’t do anything”— not offered to prove that the police wouldn’t do anything but offered t show why Johnny did what he diid.)
Anonymous
I’m not a big Johnny depo fan—liked him in some things, not in others. But this is making me feel so bad for him.
One of my brothers who is a really nice guy fell for a woman who was basically a con artist — I wasn’t crazy about her to start but didn’t realize how awful she was (just found her kind of fake and stupid). But at least she wasn’t abusive like amber and my brother didn’t have an underlying addiction problem to trigger. He got out but it was rough and there was a point at which it seemed like she was going to make up some abuse allegations if he didn’t cave on some stuff. He has paid her so much alimony and child support (even though she never has the kids) but at least he is free. I guess they wouldn’t put me on the jury!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Question for the lawyers in here: Johnny was proceeding to talk about a conversation he had with his lawyers. He stated, “They advised me…”. The defense lawyers objected with hearsay. Judge sustained.

How can his own conversation be hearsay?


Heresay is any statement made out of court by anyone other than the witness that is offered as proof of something.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/hearsay#:~:text=Definition,truth%20of%20whatever%20it%20asserts.

(IANAL, just watch a ton of legal TV)


So even if he says “in his opinion he understood his lawyers to say xyz”.

This is still hearsay?

Here is what he actually said “The advice I was given was to not fight it,” he testified.
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