Barnard is Barnard, not Columbia!!!

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Anonymous wrote:For the poster who keeps saying Barnard is part of Columbia because it's listed on the website. You're wrong. Scroll to the bottom of the page you linked: https://www.columbia.edu/content/academics/schools

You'll see that there are Schools and there are Affiliated Schools. Barnard is no more Columbia than Teacher's College or the Theological Seminary.

That page has 21 Columbia University Schools listed...you are a purveyor of fake news. Perhaps you are qualified to be President of the United States--or at least Columbia University.

No. Scroll to the bottom of the page where the directory of the school is listed by School, Affiliated School, etc. Believe it or not, the way a website lists this sort of information is intentional and reflects administrative and legal distinctions.

The portion on top of page refers to "21 Services" not schools.

The bottom portion in the blue navigation box tells you what you need to know. Barnard is an affiliated school and the students should not say Columbia. Different schools.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the poster who keeps saying Barnard is part of Columbia because it's listed on the website. You're wrong. Scroll to the bottom of the page you linked: https://www.columbia.edu/content/academics/schools

You'll see that there are Schools and there are Affiliated Schools. Barnard is no more Columbia than Teacher's College or the Theological Seminary.

That page has 21 Columbia University Schools listed...you are a purveyor of fake news. Perhaps you are qualified to be President of the United States--or at least Columbia University.

No. Scroll to the bottom of the page where the directory of the school is listed by School, Affiliated School, etc. Believe it or not, the way a website lists this sort of information is intentional and reflects administrative and legal distinctions.

The portion on top of page refers to "21 Services" not schools.

The bottom portion in the blue navigation box tells you what you need to know. Barnard is an affiliated school and the students should not say Columbia. Different schools.

So one should ignore the 21 completely? Also, the title of the page before services is List of Schools-a fact you chose to ignore. Further, you should look at all the facts. The degree says Columbia University, Barnard College--if that is not dispositive, I don't know what is. Barnard students have two graduations--one with Columbia and one with Barnard. Can I ask why you are so obsessed with this? Clearly you have an axe to grind here. My kid goes to Cornell so I am not pro-Barnard or anything--doesn't impact me other than from an intellectual honesty perspective.

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https://collegegazette.com/is-barnard-college-ivy-league-acceptance-rate-ranking-and-more/

Third party.

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The key fact that everyone is missing is that the degree says Columbia University first then Barnard College. This is from Barnard's site:

What is the Barnard/Columbia relationship?

This is possibly the hardest question to answer about Barnard. In short, Barnard is a college of Columbia University, meaning your diploma will be from Columbia University, Barnard College. However, Barnard has a completely separate admissions and financial aid process, separate housing, meal plans, and administrative offices. You can take any class at Columbia (except for the Columbia core classes) and any Columbia students can take a class at Barnard. You can go into any dining hall at Columbia, use all the libraries, use the gym, and join clubs and greek life at Columbia.

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Anonymous wrote:The key fact that everyone is missing is that the degree says Columbia University first then Barnard College. This is from Barnard's site:

What is the Barnard/Columbia relationship?

This is possibly the hardest question to answer about Barnard. In short, Barnard is a college of Columbia University, meaning your diploma will be from Columbia University, Barnard College. However, Barnard has a completely separate admissions and financial aid process, separate housing, meal plans, and administrative offices. You can take any class at Columbia (except for the Columbia core classes) and any Columbia students can take a class at Barnard. You can go into any dining hall at Columbia, use all the libraries, use the gym, and join clubs and greek life at Columbia.

Regardless of what you said, as long as a Barnard graduate puts the Barnard name on the resume, not just Columbia, then it's ok. People seeing the resume will figure out the meaning themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Barnard is an affiliated institution of Columbia. If you are a Barnard student or a Barnard grad and you say you’re from Columbia, you WILL be viewed as being dishonest. Or at least only partially honest. This is true when applying to jobs or positions in academia, at least.

+1000%. I live and work in NYC. The people on this thread claiming that Barnard students should say they are Columbia students truly have no idea what they're talking about.

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Last two PP--Agree with both of you and I was one of the ones that said the degree says Columbia University. Completely agree that the student should not say Columbia but should say Barnard College, Columbia University or Barnard College of Columbia University for resume, LinkedIn, etc. (even though the degree says Columbia first). Otherwise, I agree it would be misleading.

I believe the thread started because OP was upset that her daughter's friend said Barnard College Columbia University on Instagram or something. I think it is right to say Barnard College, Columbia University but not Columbia.

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SGS graduates should not say Columbia either. I mean Columbia doesn’t acknowledge them in their fake statistics when they state a low acceptance rate. .

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Lot of haters here of General Studies, Barnard, and Columbia in general. Wow. You would think we were talking about UVA, Notre Dame, Cornell, or USC.

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Anonymous wrote:Last two PP--Agree with both of you and I was one of the ones that said the degree says Columbia University. Completely agree that the student should not say Columbia but should say Barnard College, Columbia University or Barnard College of Columbia University for resume, LinkedIn, etc. (even though the degree says Columbia first). Otherwise, I agree it would be misleading.

I believe the thread started because OP was upset that her daughter's friend said Barnard College Columbia University on Instagram or something. I think it is right to say Barnard College, Columbia University but not Columbia.

Even "Barnard College, Columbia University" is pushing. This isn't Oxford we're talking about, with its constituent colleges. Just say Barnard, and be proud of your school. It's a great school, probably the second or third best all women's school in the country.

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Anonymous wrote:Last two PP--Agree with both of you and I was one of the ones that said the degree says Columbia University. Completely agree that the student should not say Columbia but should say Barnard College, Columbia University or Barnard College of Columbia University for resume, LinkedIn, etc. (even though the degree says Columbia first). Otherwise, I agree it would be misleading.

I believe the thread started because OP was upset that her daughter's friend said Barnard College Columbia University on Instagram or something. I think it is right to say Barnard College, Columbia University but not Columbia.

Even "Barnard College, Columbia University" is pushing. This isn't Oxford we're talking about, with its constituent colleges. Just say Barnard, and be proud of your school. It's a great school, probably the second or third best all women's school in the country.

Did you read any of the thread? The school says to say Barnard College, Columbia University or Barnard College of Columbia University. The Front Gate of Barnard says Barnard College of Columbia University. I honestly think that is honest. I went to law school at American, I don't say Washington College of Law but the resume says The American University, Washington College of Law.

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The Gate and The Logo also say Barnard College Columbia University.

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Anonymous wrote:Last two PP--Agree with both of you and I was one of the ones that said the degree says Columbia University. Completely agree that the student should not say Columbia but should say Barnard College, Columbia University or Barnard College of Columbia University for resume, LinkedIn, etc. (even though the degree says Columbia first). Otherwise, I agree it would be misleading.

I believe the thread started because OP was upset that her daughter's friend said Barnard College Columbia University on Instagram or something. I think it is right to say Barnard College, Columbia University but not Columbia.

Even "Barnard College, Columbia University" is pushing. This isn't Oxford we're talking about, with its constituent colleges. Just say Barnard, and be proud of your school. It's a great school, probably the second or third best all women's school in the country.

Did you read any of the thread? The school says to say Barnard College, Columbia University or Barnard College of Columbia University. The Front Gate of Barnard says Barnard College of Columbia University. I honestly think that is honest. I went to law school at American, I don't say Washington College of Law but the resume says The American University, Washington College of Law.

There is a difference between a constituent school or department within a school (think Columbia College or the School of Journalism or Columbia Business School) and an affiliated institution.