Trapped/Re-aging Families, How are you having the conversation?
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Anonymous
Nope still here and still think you're a loser. |
Anonymous
| At least the grade-school insults are on brand for the debate topic! |
Anonymous
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Heres a club that gets it.
Notice the GRADE in school being called out. https://labreakersfc.com/club/tryouts |
Anonymous
Only their grades are all wrong. At least, in our area, those would not be the correct grades for next season. U16 shouldn’t be freshman. |
Anonymous
It's labeled "Typical Grade" -- Makes sense, shows not everyone will be aligned no matter what is done. |
Anonymous
No proof, no believe. Coppermine Can my child play up an age group? We prefer players continue to play in the appropriate age group. |
Anonymous
| One data point: A Top ECNL boy club. One late boomer Aug kid on 8th grade, having little time playing time on the 2012 team is asked by the head coach to play on the 2013 team (Same coach) starting from July. And parents pretty happy about it |
Anonymous
This makes no sense. An Aug 2012 will be playing up a year right now in BY. When BY changes to SY depending on when the school district starts they will either be rostered on a 2013 team thats their grade in school OR they would be rostered on a 2014 team a grade down. In the second situation Aug birthdays play up a year so they're playing on the 2013 team thats their grade in school. What you're trying to make sound negative is whats supposed to happen switching from BY to SY. |
Anonymous
The way I read it is the player is Aug 2012, been playing BY 2012. Now they have a choice to play with the current 2013s, which next year will be a mix of late 2012s and early 2013s. The Aug player will get more playing time now because they will be one of the oldest. |
Anonymous
Maybe, it's probably fair to assume that a player used to playing up will do well if changed to playing on a team thats their grade in school. But you never know. When it comes to college recruiting it will be much easier to get noticed playing on a team thats your grade in school. This goes both ways (playing up and down) although playing up can be beneficial if marketed correctly. What most people dont understand is that theres a rhythm with recruiting and college coaches. 90% of looking at/for players occurs Sophmore year. If you're misaligned either way college coaches tend to overlook you. Sure you can reach out to XYZ coach or depend on promotion from your club. But you're not in alignment with college coach processes and procedures which just makes things harder. |
Anonymous
Heres an example. College coaches watch Sophmore youth players and get everything lined up for official offers to be provided Junior year. If you're an Aug birthday playing down on a Freshman team. It will be more difficult for college coaches to see you. In Showcases you wont be playing at the times and field locations as Sophmore teams. So the coach has two options trek over to a weird field or time to see you. Or they just wait untill next season when you're playing at the Sophmore level to assess. They know that players playing down arent in demand. So now your picked last if at all. |
Anonymous
You do realize that college coaches only "see" prospective recruits if you've already reached out and based on other info -- like talking to other scouts/your coach/highlights -- will come to whatever youth match you might be at for a showcase. Regardless, if the kid was facing challenges as a late bloomer playing BY, the chance to play SY at a top level ECNL team is better for that kid and whether they can get good enough to keep progressing to play in college/pro/whatever. |
Anonymous
Yep. And if they use that to grow into an amazing player, maybe they play up a year or 2 from now OR maybe they go play MLSN. Nothing is fixed. |
Anonymous
That's an example from someone who doesn't know recruiting. It's push not pull. Need good highlights and a good IDs. And showcases will be able to play up so that's solved. Playing up an age group is a bad idea because coming off the bench or playing a full in position constantly and not your best fit doesn't help playing well. And playing on the second team one age group up would get you buried. Best to play on age like leagues and teams want you too. Unless your kid just wants to play lower tier with buddies. |
Anonymous
According to FC Copa and Eastside, college coaches see the best eligible players regardless of age group. This must play up is your own construct that goes against actually statements from college coaches. |