Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

Anonymous
I believe it will be solved eventually from tips. They've received so many that it takes time to go through them. Someone will eventually connect all the dots. You know someone knows who the person is and it will eventually be resolved.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Thinking back to the Moscow Murders, how long did it take for an arrest to be made? Was there a similar level of silence while they were working the case?


The murderers car was a key break in that case, which is not available here (ring cameras are far off the road in this neighborhood).
Anonymous
Initially I was addicted to this case, but it doesn’t seem like much progress is being made now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I might be late to the game, but can anyone confirm for me if all of the ransom notes received shortly after the investigation began are now considered fake??
Like the ones that TMZ’s Harvey Levin discussed in those lengthy videos?

Thx!


I have not heard from any news source that the ransom emails have been proven to be fraudulent.
I think they likely were legit - but the abducter stopped contacting TMZ because they did not want to be traced by the authorities.

I don’t think there has been an increase in the $1M reward money if someone turned in whomever is responsible for abducting Nancy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Soooo, that sheriff gave an interview today and all I can say is what the hell is going on.

https://www.today.com/news/nancy-guthrie-update-latest-sheriff-interview-today-rcna263320

Some highlights:
"Kreutz [NBC reporter] asked Nanos [sheriff] if it's possible the suspect could strike again. "Well, absolutely, absolutely," he said. "I mean, you know, criminal minds are criminal minds.""

"We believe we know why he did this, and we believe that it was targeted, but we can’t — we’re not 100% sure of that, and so it’d be silly to tell people, 'Yeah, don’t worry about it. You’re not his target.' No, you could be," he said.

I'm sorry: You could be the target of this kidnapper? The suspect could strike again? We know why he did this?

I sure hope this is a planned strategy, because this is bananas. This does not make anyone feel safe. Do they think the motive was personal? or money driven? if the suspect strikes again is he/they looking for an elderly woman? a relative of a famous person? a fomer employer? (like if it was a household/lanscape help/worker person). a person who lives in tuscon? Or anywhere in the U.S.? Any age? Any sex?

The sheriff is saying VERY inflammatory things and providing no information at all.



Reminder that Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos has an annual department budget of over 170 million dollars! This is why so many Americans want to defund the police. They hoover up most of the tax revenue and provide nothing in return.


NY Post has busted this welfare king sheriff driving around town in a $100K convertible sports car. Seems to be at the gym more than at work. How many pensions is this old fart already collecting?

https://nypost.com/2026/03/18/us-news/nancy-guthrie-sheriff-chris-nanos-logging-short-days-in-office-as-case-languishes/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Soooo, that sheriff gave an interview today and all I can say is what the hell is going on.

https://www.today.com/news/nancy-guthrie-update-latest-sheriff-interview-today-rcna263320

Some highlights:
"Kreutz [NBC reporter] asked Nanos [sheriff] if it's possible the suspect could strike again. "Well, absolutely, absolutely," he said. "I mean, you know, criminal minds are criminal minds.""

"We believe we know why he did this, and we believe that it was targeted, but we can’t — we’re not 100% sure of that, and so it’d be silly to tell people, 'Yeah, don’t worry about it. You’re not his target.' No, you could be," he said.

I'm sorry: You could be the target of this kidnapper? The suspect could strike again? We know why he did this?

I sure hope this is a planned strategy, because this is bananas. This does not make anyone feel safe. Do they think the motive was personal? or money driven? if the suspect strikes again is he/they looking for an elderly woman? a relative of a famous person? a fomer employer? (like if it was a household/lanscape help/worker person). a person who lives in tuscon? Or anywhere in the U.S.? Any age? Any sex?

The sheriff is saying VERY inflammatory things and providing no information at all.



Reminder that Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos has an annual department budget of over 170 million dollars! This is why so many Americans want to defund the police. They hoover up most of the tax revenue and provide nothing in return.


NY Post has busted this welfare king sheriff driving around town in a $100K convertible sports car. Seems to be at the gym more than at work. How many pensions is this old fart already collecting?

https://nypost.com/2026/03/18/us-news/nancy-guthrie-sheriff-chris-nanos-logging-short-days-in-office-as-case-languishes/


That article is such trash. It says the tracked him between Thursday and Tuesday and we’re shocked that he apparently only went into the office two days. He either took Friday off or worked remotely or was perhaps on site. They characterize his home as a mansion but it’s Zillow value is 678K and I know the neighborhood very well — it’s a mildly UMC neighborhood on the unfashionable side of the foothills (all the really rich people live NW now), on a golf course that nearly went bankrupt a couple years ago. There are a lot of retirees, including retired teachers and firefighters and so forth in that neighborhood. His house is only the nicer end for the neighborhood but it’s ridiculous to call it a mansion.

What’s more interesting is why the NyPost wants to run such a hit job on him. Does it have anything to do with Nanos’s refusal to cooperate with IcE raids? The post article points out he’s a Democrat like a zillion times.
Anonymous
Heard that all Nancy’s family members were polygraph tested and all of them passed with flying colors.

Also interesting to note - as of today there are NO official suspects in the case.

They are basically at a standstill right now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The investigation is seriously lagging.
An arrest should have been made by now.


They don't have a suspect. There will never be an arrest.


The local police botched this from the beginning and it's really sad. Almost no one is abducted today without a trace; especially when there's camera footage. And they are still "discovering" photos 6 weeks later? WTH? Police also let a pizza delivery guy enter the crime scene in the 1st days of the investigation. Total ineptitude. Savannah should hire a private investigator.


You can say all of that but there is surprisingly little evidence. No dna hits, no other camera info. Random crimes like this are hard.


This brilliant abductor used leaves from a porch plant to cover the camera which shows how poorly planned and executed this was. There were more mistakes made but the police flubbed it from the beginning and likely missed a bunch of evidence. They found similar gloves on the trail in the area near the home 2 weeks later? Just obtaining additional photos 6 weeks later? Spending too much time focused on neighbors or family perhaps?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The investigation is seriously lagging.
An arrest should have been made by now.


They don't have a suspect. There will never be an arrest.


The local police botched this from the beginning and it's really sad. Almost no one is abducted today without a trace; especially when there's camera footage. And they are still "discovering" photos 6 weeks later? WTH? Police also let a pizza delivery guy enter the crime scene in the 1st days of the investigation. Total ineptitude. Savannah should hire a private investigator.


You can say all of that but there is surprisingly little evidence. No dna hits, no other camera info. Random crimes like this are hard.


This brilliant abductor used leaves from a porch plant to cover the camera which shows how poorly planned and executed this was. There were more mistakes made but the police flubbed it from the beginning and likely missed a bunch of evidence. They found similar gloves on the trail in the area near the home 2 weeks later? Just obtaining additional photos 6 weeks later? Spending too much time focused on neighbors or family perhaps?


He planned it well enough so that he was wearing double gloves, the mask and was seemingly well prepared, left no DNA evidence, but not well enough that he didn’t account for the cameras. That’s puzzling to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The investigation is seriously lagging.
An arrest should have been made by now.


They don't have a suspect. There will never be an arrest.


The local police botched this from the beginning and it's really sad. Almost no one is abducted today without a trace; especially when there's camera footage. And they are still "discovering" photos 6 weeks later? WTH? Police also let a pizza delivery guy enter the crime scene in the 1st days of the investigation. Total ineptitude. Savannah should hire a private investigator.


You can say all of that but there is surprisingly little evidence. No dna hits, no other camera info. Random crimes like this are hard.


This brilliant abductor used leaves from a porch plant to cover the camera which shows how poorly planned and executed this was. There were more mistakes made but the police flubbed it from the beginning and likely missed a bunch of evidence. They found similar gloves on the trail in the area near the home 2 weeks later? Just obtaining additional photos 6 weeks later? Spending too much time focused on neighbors or family perhaps?


He planned it well enough so that he was wearing double gloves, the mask and was seemingly well prepared, left no DNA evidence, but not well enough that he didn’t account for the cameras. That’s puzzling to me.


Yes, that is so weird. It's like he's a burglar from 10 years in the past -- he knows to account for DNA but not for all the security cameras people now have. I guess it's possible that he meant to put a wirecutter in his pocket, or something to cover a camera, and realized just as he saw the camera that he had forgotten it. Everyone makes mistakes.

I do think the most likely explanation now is burglary gone wrong, and he probably was casing houses in the neighborhood and picked hers because he figured out it was an elderly woman living alone. He startled her, she fought back or fell, and he figured if he got rid of the body in the desert, people might assume she just wandered off or had gone on vacation or something. (A friend's elderly mother died in her apartment alone and it took weeks before anyone realized she was dead, so he may have been hoping this woman didn't have any particularly close family.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The investigation is seriously lagging.
An arrest should have been made by now.


They don't have a suspect. There will never be an arrest.


The local police botched this from the beginning and it's really sad. Almost no one is abducted today without a trace; especially when there's camera footage. And they are still "discovering" photos 6 weeks later? WTH? Police also let a pizza delivery guy enter the crime scene in the 1st days of the investigation. Total ineptitude. Savannah should hire a private investigator.


You can say all of that but there is surprisingly little evidence. No dna hits, no other camera info. Random crimes like this are hard.


This brilliant abductor used leaves from a porch plant to cover the camera which shows how poorly planned and executed this was. There were more mistakes made but the police flubbed it from the beginning and likely missed a bunch of evidence. They found similar gloves on the trail in the area near the home 2 weeks later? Just obtaining additional photos 6 weeks later? Spending too much time focused on neighbors or family perhaps?


When I looked up the County stats, the sheriffs office deals with about a half dozen homicides a year. And you would assume most of them are pretty straightforward, with witnesses or where the perpetrator is pretty obvious. Compare to DC which had 127 homicides last year. I think it's unrealistic to expect most agencies to have the kind of expertise we see on CSI Miami or whatever, unfortunately.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The investigation is seriously lagging.
An arrest should have been made by now.


They don't have a suspect. There will never be an arrest.


The local police botched this from the beginning and it's really sad. Almost no one is abducted today without a trace; especially when there's camera footage. And they are still "discovering" photos 6 weeks later? WTH? Police also let a pizza delivery guy enter the crime scene in the 1st days of the investigation. Total ineptitude. Savannah should hire a private investigator.


You can say all of that but there is surprisingly little evidence. No dna hits, no other camera info. Random crimes like this are hard.


This brilliant abductor used leaves from a porch plant to cover the camera which shows how poorly planned and executed this was. There were more mistakes made but the police flubbed it from the beginning and likely missed a bunch of evidence. They found similar gloves on the trail in the area near the home 2 weeks later? Just obtaining additional photos 6 weeks later? Spending too much time focused on neighbors or family perhaps?


When I looked up the County stats, the sheriffs office deals with about a half dozen homicides a year. And you would assume most of them are pretty straightforward, with witnesses or where the perpetrator is pretty obvious. Compare to DC which had 127 homicides last year. I think it's unrealistic to expect most agencies to have the kind of expertise we see on CSI Miami or whatever, unfortunately.


In other words, the $170M annual budget for this sheriff’s office is robbing that county blind.
Anonymous
I think Nancy’s Arizona neighbors are getting tired of the press camped out in their neighborhood.
I watched a video of a woman yesterday going scorched earth on someone just minding their business.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Heard that all Nancy’s family members were polygraph tested and all of them passed with flying colors.

Also interesting to note - as of today there are NO official suspects in the case.

They are basically at a standstill right now.


And they will be for a very long time to come as too much time has passed and it is impossible an 84 YO person (even a healthy one) would survive being held in captivity this long.
Plus who in their right mind would hold on to an elderly person for so long unless there was a chance that they would pocket some ransom or reward money??
Why would anyone take that on?
What would be the incentive???
Anonymous
The ransom notes are still considered to be credible according to the FBI.
They were sophisticated in that they mentioned key evidence in the case that only an insider would know.
The deadlines for ransom however have all passed long ago.
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