Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:It’s all very sad but she has lived a long life. Hopefully the family is able to move on sooner rather than later


How can they move on without closure?



They don't really have a choice.


Plenty of people don’t really move on. Even when a loved one dies of natural causes, some people just get stuck in complicated grief. Not proud of this, but I consume a lot of true crime, and sometimes it is so clear people have not moved on. Their lives are all about that murdered or missing person. Did you watch the documentary about Amy Bradley? Her family has in no sense moved on.


It’s also probably terrifying for Savannah because who knows if this person is going to attack her or other family members. It might not be likely, but I’m sure if this happened to me that idea would be in the back of my head all of the time.


Probably also incredibly (maybe even more) terrifying for her sister because she presumably does not have as much security as Savannah and still lives in AZ.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Soooo, that sheriff gave an interview today and all I can say is what the hell is going on.

https://www.today.com/news/nancy-guthrie-update-latest-sheriff-interview-today-rcna263320

Some highlights:
"Kreutz [NBC reporter] asked Nanos [sheriff] if it's possible the suspect could strike again. "Well, absolutely, absolutely," he said. "I mean, you know, criminal minds are criminal minds.""

"We believe we know why he did this, and we believe that it was targeted, but we can’t — we’re not 100% sure of that, and so it’d be silly to tell people, 'Yeah, don’t worry about it. You’re not his target.' No, you could be," he said.

I'm sorry: You could be the target of this kidnapper? The suspect could strike again? We know why he did this?

I sure hope this is a planned strategy, because this is bananas. This does not make anyone feel safe. Do they think the motive was personal? or money driven? if the suspect strikes again is he/they looking for an elderly woman? a relative of a famous person? a fomer employer? (like if it was a household/lanscape help/worker person). a person who lives in tuscon? Or anywhere in the U.S.? Any age? Any sex?

The sheriff is saying VERY inflammatory things and providing no information at all.



I actually appreciate the honesty! Most of the time they give you some bull about how the public shouldn’t be worried, etc etc, even when they don’t know who did it or why. So it appears targeted. Is it someone who targets relatives of famous people? Or someone who targets elderly women who live alone? He’s right that it would be silly to tell people not to worry when they really know so little.
Anonymous
What if she’s found on Easter alive??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What if she’s found on Easter alive??

Oh brother
She is not alive.
Anonymous
The investigation is seriously lagging.
An arrest should have been made by now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The investigation is seriously lagging.
An arrest should have been made by now.


They don't have a suspect. There will never be an arrest.
Anonymous
I might be late to the game, but can anyone confirm for me if all of the ransom notes received shortly after the investigation began are now considered fake??
Like the ones that TMZ’s Harvey Levin discussed in those lengthy videos?

Thx!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Soooo, that sheriff gave an interview today and all I can say is what the hell is going on.

https://www.today.com/news/nancy-guthrie-update-latest-sheriff-interview-today-rcna263320

Some highlights:
"Kreutz [NBC reporter] asked Nanos [sheriff] if it's possible the suspect could strike again. "Well, absolutely, absolutely," he said. "I mean, you know, criminal minds are criminal minds.""

"We believe we know why he did this, and we believe that it was targeted, but we can’t — we’re not 100% sure of that, and so it’d be silly to tell people, 'Yeah, don’t worry about it. You’re not his target.' No, you could be," he said.

I'm sorry: You could be the target of this kidnapper? The suspect could strike again? We know why he did this?

I sure hope this is a planned strategy, because this is bananas. This does not make anyone feel safe. Do they think the motive was personal? or money driven? if the suspect strikes again is he/they looking for an elderly woman? a relative of a famous person? a fomer employer? (like if it was a household/lanscape help/worker person). a person who lives in tuscon? Or anywhere in the U.S.? Any age? Any sex?

The sheriff is saying VERY inflammatory things and providing no information at all.



Reminder that Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos has an annual department budget of over 170 million dollars! This is why so many Americans want to defund the police. They hoover up most of the tax revenue and provide nothing in return.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The investigation is seriously lagging.
An arrest should have been made by now.


They don't have a suspect. There will never be an arrest.



Well, I mean, there could be one in thirty years when they find DNA or someone confesses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Soooo, that sheriff gave an interview today and all I can say is what the hell is going on.

https://www.today.com/news/nancy-guthrie-update-latest-sheriff-interview-today-rcna263320

Some highlights:
"Kreutz [NBC reporter] asked Nanos [sheriff] if it's possible the suspect could strike again. "Well, absolutely, absolutely," he said. "I mean, you know, criminal minds are criminal minds.""

"We believe we know why he did this, and we believe that it was targeted, but we can’t — we’re not 100% sure of that, and so it’d be silly to tell people, 'Yeah, don’t worry about it. You’re not his target.' No, you could be," he said.

I'm sorry: You could be the target of this kidnapper? The suspect could strike again? We know why he did this?

I sure hope this is a planned strategy, because this is bananas. This does not make anyone feel safe. Do they think the motive was personal? or money driven? if the suspect strikes again is he/they looking for an elderly woman? a relative of a famous person? a fomer employer? (like if it was a household/lanscape help/worker person). a person who lives in tuscon? Or anywhere in the U.S.? Any age? Any sex?

The sheriff is saying VERY inflammatory things and providing no information at all.



Reminder that Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos has an annual department budget of over 170 million dollars! This is why so many Americans want to defund the police. They hoover up most of the tax revenue and provide nothing in return.


Well they did respond to more than 117,00 calls for service in 2025. And I’m pretty sure they also serve and execute arrest warrants, run the county jails, perform extraditions to other jurisdictions, operates 911, provided security at 61 schools, seized lots of drugs and illegal weapons, administered naxone dozens of times, enforced traffic laws, and probably a bunch of other stuff. It’s not like this one unusual crime defines their worth as an agency.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The investigation is seriously lagging.
An arrest should have been made by now.


They don't have a suspect. There will never be an arrest.


The local police botched this from the beginning and it's really sad. Almost no one is abducted today without a trace; especially when there's camera footage. And they are still "discovering" photos 6 weeks later? WTH? Police also let a pizza delivery guy enter the crime scene in the 1st days of the investigation. Total ineptitude. Savannah should hire a private investigator.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The investigation is seriously lagging.
An arrest should have been made by now.


They don't have a suspect. There will never be an arrest.



Well, I mean, there could be one in thirty years when they find DNA or someone confesses.


Yep, I would think it would almost have to be a situation where they arrest someone for a similar crime and they confess to this one or are tied back to it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The investigation is seriously lagging.
An arrest should have been made by now.


They don't have a suspect. There will never be an arrest.



Well, I mean, there could be one in thirty years when they find DNA or someone confesses.


Yep, I would think it would almost have to be a situation where they arrest someone for a similar crime and they confess to this one or are tied back to it.


+1 unfortunately since it wasn’t solved quickly, I think it’s going to be one of those cases that years later might get solved.

As for Savannah and her family, I feel bad for the lack of resolution and closure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Soooo, that sheriff gave an interview today and all I can say is what the hell is going on.

https://www.today.com/news/nancy-guthrie-update-latest-sheriff-interview-today-rcna263320

Some highlights:
"Kreutz [NBC reporter] asked Nanos [sheriff] if it's possible the suspect could strike again. "Well, absolutely, absolutely," he said. "I mean, you know, criminal minds are criminal minds.""

"We believe we know why he did this, and we believe that it was targeted, but we can’t — we’re not 100% sure of that, and so it’d be silly to tell people, 'Yeah, don’t worry about it. You’re not his target.' No, you could be," he said.

I'm sorry: You could be the target of this kidnapper? The suspect could strike again? We know why he did this?

I sure hope this is a planned strategy, because this is bananas. This does not make anyone feel safe. Do they think the motive was personal? or money driven? if the suspect strikes again is he/they looking for an elderly woman? a relative of a famous person? a fomer employer? (like if it was a household/lanscape help/worker person). a person who lives in tuscon? Or anywhere in the U.S.? Any age? Any sex?

The sheriff is saying VERY inflammatory things and providing no information at all.



Reminder that Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos has an annual department budget of over 170 million dollars! This is why so many Americans want to defund the police. They hoover up most of the tax revenue and provide nothing in return.


I hate these kind of posts. I'm not pro police but it is childish to assume that they can solve every case. People expect them to have magical powers to protect everyone at all times and to resolve every crime. It isn't possible. Random crimes like this are very hard to solve. The criminal wasn't a bumbling idiot as everyone assumed. If any one of you decided to murder a random person tomorrow and were able to avoid cameras, the police anywhere would have a hard time solving that. What bothers me is that people recognize the person in the cameras and haven't come forward or the tip was ignored.

Also that isn't a huge budget. You are clueless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The investigation is seriously lagging.
An arrest should have been made by now.


They don't have a suspect. There will never be an arrest.


The local police botched this from the beginning and it's really sad. Almost no one is abducted today without a trace; especially when there's camera footage. And they are still "discovering" photos 6 weeks later? WTH? Police also let a pizza delivery guy enter the crime scene in the 1st days of the investigation. Total ineptitude. Savannah should hire a private investigator.


You can say all of that but there is surprisingly little evidence. No dna hits, no other camera info. Random crimes like this are hard.
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