Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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TS account varies not only from Justin's compliant but also how Blake describes the encounter in her excerpted email - https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/taylor-swift-reportedly-perplexed-justin-001519823.html

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Anonymous wrote:TS account varies not only from Justin's compliant but also how Blake describes the encounter in her excerpted email - https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/taylor-swift-reportedly-perplexed-justin-001519823.html

Well that article sucks. The complaint didn’t say TS tried to pressure him. It says BL did, by bringing up her “dragons” (RR and TS) and by threatening not to promote the film. I don’t think anyone is alleging that TS did anything wrong.

[Anonymous]

Yeah that article is bad, I think Taylor was there and Blake took advantage of it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am also a lawyer and I support Lively in these circumstances. And for that matter I am also a female lawyer who has been sexually harassed, discriminated against, or close to it (IT manager once gleefully showed me and my boss porn in my first job out of school before I became a lawyer (no repercussions, I excused myself and left); on campus interviewer took me out to drinks and basically propositioned me; went to a different firm and got shit work there while the male attys got depositions; had to avoid being in same room as notoriously handsy partner for two years; worked in group where rainmaking partner raped associate and still stayed at firm and had to report to him on several matters etc). I’m at a different firm now. Nobody needs to tell me what sexual harassment is but thanks.

What about her complaint compared to his complaint makes you support her claim? You’ve described your own experiences, but that has nothing to do with what she has alleged.

I have already described some of these things in the preceding pages and JB supporters chime in with how their own interpretation of events is better and more reasonable lol (plus the comment about how PP is a real survivor of sexual harassment and knows what sexual harassment is. Newsflash: Reasonable people can disagree. You are not the only female atty on this board who has dealt with weird ass men.)

I honestly question whether some JB supporters here aren’t just either people hired by JB’s PR firm (which does these things) or people who have read the poisonous stuff that those people have posted somewhere and then believe it and post similar views themselves. I’m surprised by the sheer number of people on here saying that when Lively asked the (non-Baldoni) producer person to turn their back (after trying in unsuccessfully to reschedule their meeting for another time) and then found him looking at her anyway having completely failed to respect her request and turn his back was somehow Lively’s fault. I understand this isn’t the worst of what happened to her, but dude should have respected her boundaries and tbh art’s not on her. For multiple posters here to actually be blaming that on Lively feels like something weird is going on.

Funny, I’ve thought the same thing but thought it was more Blake Lively’s PR team commenting on this thread. I noticed the same thing on the Apple Martin thread - the PR folks have definitely found DCUM.

Agree with this, I called it out last week.

[Anonymous]

To all the people claiming that this is the usual story of a woman being ignored and belittled for claiming SH, this is not a typical story. SH is almost always about power. Blake had full power on that set and then eventually took full control of the film and got a huge financial stake in it through the executive producer credit, and kicked the director-producer out of the premier in a public way that was embarrassing and obvious and distracting. She had full power and he had all of it taken away from him. And she used her very powerful husband to do it.

If the roles were reversed in the apartment, and Blake was a man and Justin was a woman we would be appalled and we would absolutely call that harassment or at least intimidation.

Because it was Ryan Reynolds and Taylor I guess people are starstruck or something, but I’m sure Justin left that meeting feeling like he completely lost control of his film. It was such an obnoxious move.

I don’t think Blake expected the backlash that she got, her team wasn’t prepared for it, they panicked and then all this ensued.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people claiming that this is the usual story of a woman being ignored and belittled for claiming SH, this is not a typical story. SH is almost always about power. Blake had full power on that set and then eventually took full control of the film and got a huge financial stake in it through the executive producer credit, and kicked the director-producer out of the premier in a public way that was embarrassing and obvious and distracting. She had full power and he had all of it taken away from him. And she used her very powerful husband to do it.

If the roles were reversed in the apartment, and Blake was a man and Justin was a woman we would be appalled and we would absolutely call that harassment or at least intimidation.

Because it was Ryan Reynolds and Taylor I guess people are starstruck or something, but I’m sure Justin left that meeting feeling like he completely lost control of his film. It was such an obnoxious move.

I don’t think Blake expected the backlash that she got, her team wasn’t prepared for it, they panicked and then all this ensued.

I’m a progressive woman who worked in employment discrimination law, albeit years ago, and I agree completely. I also think the rabid support for Blake Lively here isn’t all just regular posters checking out Hottest Topics.

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Did RR have an official role with the movie production?

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people claiming that this is the usual story of a woman being ignored and belittled for claiming SH, this is not a typical story. SH is almost always about power. Blake had full power on that set and then eventually took full control of the film and got a huge financial stake in it through the executive producer credit, and kicked the director-producer out of the premier in a public way that was embarrassing and obvious and distracting. She had full power and he had all of it taken away from him. And she used her very powerful husband to do it.

If the roles were reversed in the apartment, and Blake was a man and Justin was a woman we would be appalled and we would absolutely call that harassment or at least intimidation.

Because it was Ryan Reynolds and Taylor I guess people are starstruck or something, but I’m sure Justin left that meeting feeling like he completely lost control of his film. It was such an obnoxious move.

I don’t think Blake expected the backlash that she got, her team wasn’t prepared for it, they panicked and then all this ensued.

I’m a progressive woman who worked in employment discrimination law, albeit years ago, and I agree completely. I also think the rabid support for Blake Lively here isn’t all just regular posters checking out Hottest Topics.

Do you think members of her PR team are trying to influence public discourse via this site? Her problem is not with upper class white women though (this site’s base), it’s gen z and POCs who are primarily piling on her. Another factor is the current cultural backlash against BLM and me too. So conservatives are using her sexual harassment claim (coming from a famous and powerful woman with a billionaire husband and billionaire best friend) to attack me too. I think she should settle with Baldoni and start posting about how much she loves being a mom. Americans love “im a mom and it’s so hard” rhetoric. Also make big donation to DV causes. With time, she can maybe put this behind her. Her team should also be real with her and not have her do interviews because she just doesn’t come across great. Taylor for example is extremely privileged, but she’s smart enough to know how to offset that with humility in her rhetoric, whether it’s in interviews or social media posts.

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Anonymous wrote:TS account varies not only from Justin's compliant but also how Blake describes the encounter in her excerpted email - https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/taylor-swift-reportedly-perplexed-justin-001519823.html

Is anyone buying Taylor's story that she just happened to stop by at the same time Justin Baldoni was there? I would think that, if you were just stopping by, you would check to see if it was a good time to visit and would not intentionally stop in the middle of a meeting.

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Anonymous wrote:TS account varies not only from Justin's compliant but also how Blake describes the encounter in her excerpted email - https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/taylor-swift-reportedly-perplexed-justin-001519823.html

Is anyone buying Taylor's story that she just happened to stop by at the same time Justin Baldoni was there? I would think that, if you were just stopping by, you would check to see if it was a good time to visit and would not intentionally stop in the middle of a meeting.

I do, she hates messiness. She probably did give a heads up and BL told her to come on over.

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Anonymous wrote:TS account varies not only from Justin's compliant but also how Blake describes the encounter in her excerpted email - https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/taylor-swift-reportedly-perplexed-justin-001519823.html

Is anyone buying Taylor's story that she just happened to stop by at the same time Justin Baldoni was there? I would think that, if you were just stopping by, you would check to see if it was a good time to visit and would not intentionally stop in the middle of a meeting.

My impression of the homes of wealthy, famous people is that this is not weird. It's common for people like this to have meetings at home throughout the day and there is overlap between social visits and business. Most people in this world have assistants and other employees who are around them all the time, especially at home. Having an agent, lawyer, director, producer stop by for a meeting around the same time as a friend might stop by for a social visit doesn't sound surprising to me. I also wouldn't be surprised to find out that Lively asked her to come over early to talk Lively's scene up to Baldoni, but Taylor's version (lol) doesn't strike me as an obvious lie either. I also buy the idea that she just would not care/be involved in something related to Lively's work on the movie -- that's very believable to me.

Stars -- they are not just like us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people claiming that this is the usual story of a woman being ignored and belittled for claiming SH, this is not a typical story. SH is almost always about power. Blake had full power on that set and then eventually took full control of the film and got a huge financial stake in it through the executive producer credit, and kicked the director-producer out of the premier in a public way that was embarrassing and obvious and distracting. She had full power and he had all of it taken away from him. And she used her very powerful husband to do it.

If the roles were reversed in the apartment, and Blake was a man and Justin was a woman we would be appalled and we would absolutely call that harassment or at least intimidation.

Because it was Ryan Reynolds and Taylor I guess people are starstruck or something, but I’m sure Justin left that meeting feeling like he completely lost control of his film. It was such an obnoxious move.

I don’t think Blake expected the backlash that she got, her team wasn’t prepared for it, they panicked and then all this ensued.

I’m a progressive woman who worked in employment discrimination law, albeit years ago, and I agree completely. I also think the rabid support for Blake Lively here isn’t all just regular posters checking out Hottest Topics.

Do you think members of her PR team are trying to influence public discourse via this site? Her problem is not with upper class white women though (this site’s base), it’s gen z and POCs who are primarily piling on her. Another factor is the current cultural backlash against BLM and me too. So conservatives are using her sexual harassment claim (coming from a famous and powerful woman with a billionaire husband and billionaire best friend) to attack me too. I think she should settle with Baldoni and start posting about how much she loves being a mom. Americans love “im a mom and it’s so hard” rhetoric. Also make big donation to DV causes. With time, she can maybe put this behind her. Her team should also be real with her and not have her do interviews because she just doesn’t come across great. Taylor for example is extremely privileged, but she’s smart enough to know how to offset that with humility in her rhetoric, whether it’s in interviews or social media posts.

Difference between Blake and Taylor is that Taylor grew up somewhat normally and really earned her celebrity through hard work and talent. She is also pretty intelligent. Blake was handed a lot of things early and she doesn’t strike me as nearly as smart or emotionally intelligent as taylor.

In the long run Blake will be fine. Her fans will move on. But she shouldn’t be able to destroy another person’s career on a whim.

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Anonymous wrote:To all the people claiming that this is the usual story of a woman being ignored and belittled for claiming SH, this is not a typical story. SH is almost always about power. Blake had full power on that set and then eventually took full control of the film and got a huge financial stake in it through the executive producer credit, and kicked the director-producer out of the premier in a public way that was embarrassing and obvious and distracting. She had full power and he had all of it taken away from him. And she used her very powerful husband to do it.

If the roles were reversed in the apartment, and Blake was a man and Justin was a woman we would be appalled and we would absolutely call that harassment or at least intimidation.

Because it was Ryan Reynolds and Taylor I guess people are starstruck or something, but I’m sure Justin left that meeting feeling like he completely lost control of his film. It was such an obnoxious move.

I don’t think Blake expected the backlash that she got, her team wasn’t prepared for it, they panicked and then all this ensued.

I don't know what happened, but this looks to be a likely possibility. The narrative that Baldoni sexually harassed Lively and then Lively benefitted from it (by seizing control of the writing and directing) is not the way that SH generally happens.

I'll reserve judgment for when the full set of facts is uncovered though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did RR have an official role with the movie production?

Not at all.

[Anonymous]

I hope she goes away and never comes back. She not beautiful or talented enough to get away with acting like such an a-hole