Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

[Anonymous]

100% she did not think he’d fight back.

[Anonymous]

She was an entitled diva to begin with…even before filming began.

Add the fact that she was likely overly hormonal, emotional, and stressed out juggling all her kids and it’s quite plausible that she overreacted.

I’m baffled as to why she would drag this before the court of public opinion…which historically doesn’t side with privileged white women.

She should quietly make this go away, remove herself from the spotlight for a while, and only return when the haters have forgotten about this ridiculous drama.

Or perhaps she could latch onto Meghan and Harry and double down on her victimhood by becoming a Trad Wife influencer (largely leaning on her hired help).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She was an entitled diva to begin with…even before filming began.

Add the fact that she was likely overly hormonal, emotional, and stressed out juggling all her kids and it’s quite plausible that she overreacted.

I’m baffled as to why she would drag this before the court of public opinion…which historically doesn’t side with privileged white women.

She should quietly make this go away, remove herself from the spotlight for a while, and only return when the haters have forgotten about this ridiculous drama.

Or perhaps she could latch onto Meghan and Harry and double down on her victimhood by becoming a Trad Wife influencer (largely leaning on her hired help).

Funny you say this, I think she actually tried something like this a long time ago before tradwives were a "thing." Some kind of website or lifestyle blog.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am also a lawyer and I support Lively in these circumstances. And for that matter I am also a female lawyer who has been sexually harassed, discriminated against, or close to it (IT manager once gleefully showed me and my boss porn in my first job out of school before I became a lawyer (no repercussions, I excused myself and left); on campus interviewer took me out to drinks and basically propositioned me; went to a different firm and got shit work there while the male attys got depositions; had to avoid being in same room as notoriously handsy partner for two years; worked in group where rainmaking partner raped associate and still stayed at firm and had to report to him on several matters etc). I’m at a different firm now. Nobody needs to tell me what sexual harassment is but thanks.

What about her complaint compared to his complaint makes you support her claim? You’ve described your own experiences, but that has nothing to do with what she has alleged.

I have already described some of these things in the preceding pages and JB supporters chime in with how their own interpretation of events is better and more reasonable lol (plus the comment about how PP is a real survivor of sexual harassment and knows what sexual harassment is. Newsflash: Reasonable people can disagree. You are not the only female atty on this board who has dealt with weird ass men.)

I honestly question whether some JB supporters here aren’t just either people hired by JB’s PR firm (which does these things) or people who have read the poisonous stuff that those people have posted somewhere and then believe it and post similar views themselves. I’m surprised by the sheer number of people on here saying that when Lively asked the (non-Baldoni) producer person to turn their back (after trying in unsuccessfully to reschedule their meeting for another time) and then found him looking at her anyway having completely failed to respect her request and turn his back was somehow Lively’s fault. I understand this isn’t the worst of what happened to her, but dude should have respected her boundaries and tbh art’s not on her. For multiple posters here to actually be blaming that on Lively feels like something weird is going on.

Funny, I’ve thought the same thing but thought it was more Blake Lively’s PR team commenting on this thread. I noticed the same thing on the Apple Martin thread - the PR folks have definitely found DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She was an entitled diva to begin with…even before filming began.

Add the fact that she was likely overly hormonal, emotional, and stressed out juggling all her kids and it’s quite plausible that she overreacted.

I’m baffled as to why she would drag this before the court of public opinion…which historically doesn’t side with privileged white women.

She should quietly make this go away, remove herself from the spotlight for a while, and only return when the haters have forgotten about this ridiculous drama.

Or perhaps she could latch onto Meghan and Harry and double down on her victimhood by becoming a Trad Wife influencer (largely leaning on her hired help).

Funny you say this, I think she actually tried something like this a long time ago before tradwives were a "thing." Some kind of website or lifestyle blog.

It was called Preserve. Like a lifestyle brand. 2013-2014 I believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the end, the movie did really well and given the assertions in the complaint that apparently Blake controlled everything, made all the decisions, took over the set and all roles and directed, produced, and edited the movie herself...she did a pretty damn good job considering how well it did at the box office and how much money it made all the key players involved. Maybe if she hadn't stepped in and hadn't done it all herself, it would have flopped. Who knows.

Agree, and I feel like Justin was very grateful. During the premier, his separate one by the way, since he was kicked out of the actual one, he did nothing but gush about Blake there, and throughout the marketing of the movie. He gave her all the credit. He said he had she had her hands in everything and made it a much better movie. He said she should direct the next film!

So great that she, or she and Ryan, or whatever, improved the film because of Baldoni‘s inexperience.

But it was a $25 million movie so it seemed appropriate that Justin direct, and produce. Especially since Colleen Hoover hand picked him to do that. People questioning that are definitely rewriting history. He was picked to do it, it was a $25 million movie, definitely appropriate that a director of his caliber would do this. Sorry, but Martin Scorsese is not going to direct it ends with us.

Blake seemed the one that should not have been in the role. It seems like she is used to much better accommodations, calling the shots in her companies, and wielding the power. It doesn’t seem like she was a good fit for this role. Great that she did such great things with it, but at what cost? Why shut him out? If he was sexually harassing her, it makes sense, but I seriously doubt that at this point. It sounds like things were really murky and I’m just not ready to say he’s a sexual harasser. Too many things don’t add up, all of which have been listed on this thread.

I’m going with the theory that Ryan and Blake wanted full control and they did not see him hiring a bulldog lawyer since he himself couldn’t have afforded it but his backer could. Like I just posted upthread, the talent agency dropped him, his podcast dropped him, and they probably thought his backer would drop him but instead he’s going to toe to toe.

Your first part is really Justin's problem. He is very two faced. He gushes effusive praise when he is actually thinking the opposite. There are so many contradictions and examples of this in the complaint. He is saying completely opposite things at the same time. He is trying to people please everyone and seem like everyone's ally and best friend but isn't really true or direct about his own feelings or opinions. He is wishy washy and like a chameleon changing his spots to fit in with whomever he is around. This may be due to his inexperience but given other accounts of this in his career by at least 2 other people, it seems it is more his personality. Not what a director needs to run a film set.

I didn’t get that all. He was only people pleasing when it came to Blake. There was a lot on the line, so I don’t blame him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am also a lawyer and I support Lively in these circumstances. And for that matter I am also a female lawyer who has been sexually harassed, discriminated against, or close to it (IT manager once gleefully showed me and my boss porn in my first job out of school before I became a lawyer (no repercussions, I excused myself and left); on campus interviewer took me out to drinks and basically propositioned me; went to a different firm and got shit work there while the male attys got depositions; had to avoid being in same room as notoriously handsy partner for two years; worked in group where rainmaking partner raped associate and still stayed at firm and had to report to him on several matters etc). I’m at a different firm now. Nobody needs to tell me what sexual harassment is but thanks.

What about her complaint compared to his complaint makes you support her claim? You’ve described your own experiences, but that has nothing to do with what she has alleged.

I have already described some of these things in the preceding pages and JB supporters chime in with how their own interpretation of events is better and more reasonable lol (plus the comment about how PP is a real survivor of sexual harassment and knows what sexual harassment is. Newsflash: Reasonable people can disagree. You are not the only female atty on this board who has dealt with weird ass men.)

I honestly question whether some JB supporters here aren’t just either people hired by JB’s PR firm (which does these things) or people who have read the poisonous stuff that those people have posted somewhere and then believe it and post similar views themselves. I’m surprised by the sheer number of people on here saying that when Lively asked the (non-Baldoni) producer person to turn their back (after trying in unsuccessfully to reschedule their meeting for another time) and then found him looking at her anyway having completely failed to respect her request and turn his back was somehow Lively’s fault. I understand this isn’t the worst of what happened to her, but dude should have respected her boundaries and tbh art’s not on her. For multiple posters here to actually be blaming that on Lively feels like something weird is going on.

Funny, I’ve thought the same thing but thought it was more Blake Lively’s PR team commenting on this thread. I noticed the same thing on the Apple Martin thread - the PR folks have definitely found DCUM.

The sealioning stopped abrubtly though, after it was called out. Funny, that. I think a bunch of you people are not for real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the end, the movie did really well and given the assertions in the complaint that apparently Blake controlled everything, made all the decisions, took over the set and all roles and directed, produced, and edited the movie herself...she did a pretty damn good job considering how well it did at the box office and how much money it made all the key players involved. Maybe if she hadn't stepped in and hadn't done it all herself, it would have flopped. Who knows.

Agree, and I feel like Justin was very grateful. During the premier, his separate one by the way, since he was kicked out of the actual one, he did nothing but gush about Blake there, and throughout the marketing of the movie. He gave her all the credit. He said he had she had her hands in everything and made it a much better movie. He said she should direct the next film!

So great that she, or she and Ryan, or whatever, improved the film because of Baldoni‘s inexperience.

But it was a $25 million movie so it seemed appropriate that Justin direct, and produce. Especially since Colleen Hoover hand picked him to do that. People questioning that are definitely rewriting history. He was picked to do it, it was a $25 million movie, definitely appropriate that a director of his caliber would do this. Sorry, but Martin Scorsese is not going to direct it ends with us.

Blake seemed the one that should not have been in the role. It seems like she is used to much better accommodations, calling the shots in her companies, and wielding the power. It doesn’t seem like she was a good fit for this role. Great that she did such great things with it, but at what cost? Why shut him out? If he was sexually harassing her, it makes sense, but I seriously doubt that at this point. It sounds like things were really murky and I’m just not ready to say he’s a sexual harasser. Too many things don’t add up, all of which have been listed on this thread.

I’m going with the theory that Ryan and Blake wanted full control and they did not see him hiring a bulldog lawyer since he himself couldn’t have afforded it but his backer could. Like I just posted upthread, the talent agency dropped him, his podcast dropped him, and they probably thought his backer would drop him but instead he’s going to toe to toe.

Your first part is really Justin's problem. He is very two faced. He gushes effusive praise when he is actually thinking the opposite. There are so many contradictions and examples of this in the complaint. He is saying completely opposite things at the same time. He is trying to people please everyone and seem like everyone's ally and best friend but isn't really true or direct about his own feelings or opinions. He is wishy washy and like a chameleon changing his spots to fit in with whomever he is around. This may be due to his inexperience but given other accounts of this in his career by at least 2 other people, it seems it is more his personality. Not what a director needs to run a film set.

I didn’t get that all. He was only people pleasing when it came to Blake. There was a lot on the line, so I don’t blame him.

Agree. I also think it’s unfair to disregard the Ryan Reynolds machine and his utter intrusion into the writing, editing, and marketing of this film and blame Justin for losing control of his set.

Give me a break.

Blake was bringing Ryan into it from preproduction. The texts about her sharing her philosophy on prepping for a role was from before filming started. She went that long tirade an about “My husband and I think this” and “my husband and I do that.”

From the start, she was making it clear that it was a package deal. Justin never really never stood a chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I was somewhat supportive of BL at first until I saw his complaint.

I think there may have been misunderstandings on set, but I don’t think what he did was SH or retaliation at all. I think she started icing him, so he ran to protect himself with some pointed PR, but it took on a life of its own because of BLs own issues- mean girl rep, promoting the film as a rom com, co promoting her hair and alcohol brands, etc.

She thought she’d file a lawsuit riding on #metoo coattails to repair her brand and reposition herself as the victim, but didn’t count on him fighting back.

Poorly played.

Bingo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I was somewhat supportive of BL at first until I saw his complaint.

I think there may have been misunderstandings on set, but I don’t think what he did was SH or retaliation at all. I think she started icing him, so he ran to protect himself with some pointed PR, but it took on a life of its own because of BLs own issues- mean girl rep, promoting the film as a rom com, co promoting her hair and alcohol brands, etc.

She thought she’d file a lawsuit riding on #metoo coattails to repair her brand and reposition herself as the victim, but didn’t count on him fighting back.

Poorly played.

Bingo.

+1 smartest post in this entire thread. What do you do for a living?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She was an entitled diva to begin with…even before filming began.

Add the fact that she was likely overly hormonal, emotional, and stressed out juggling all her kids and it’s quite plausible that she overreacted.

I’m baffled as to why she would drag this before the court of public opinion…which historically doesn’t side with privileged white women.

She should quietly make this go away, remove herself from the spotlight for a while, and only return when the haters have forgotten about this ridiculous drama.

Or perhaps she could latch onto Meghan and Harry and double down on her victimhood by becoming a Trad Wife influencer (largely leaning on her hired help).

Funny you say this, I think she actually tried something like this a long time ago before tradwives were a "thing." Some kind of website or lifestyle blog.

It was called Preserve. Like a lifestyle brand. 2013-2014 I believe.

She got roasted for having a basic bech photoshoot for Preserve which was titled The Allure of Antebellum. Because she’s an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am also a lawyer and I support Lively in these circumstances. And for that matter I am also a female lawyer who has been sexually harassed, discriminated against, or close to it (IT manager once gleefully showed me and my boss porn in my first job out of school before I became a lawyer (no repercussions, I excused myself and left); on campus interviewer took me out to drinks and basically propositioned me; went to a different firm and got shit work there while the male attys got depositions; had to avoid being in same room as notoriously handsy partner for two years; worked in group where rainmaking partner raped associate and still stayed at firm and had to report to him on several matters etc). I’m at a different firm now. Nobody needs to tell me what sexual harassment is but thanks.

What about her complaint compared to his complaint makes you support her claim? You’ve described your own experiences, but that has nothing to do with what she has alleged.

I have already described some of these things in the preceding pages and JB supporters chime in with how their own interpretation of events is better and more reasonable lol (plus the comment about how PP is a real survivor of sexual harassment and knows what sexual harassment is. Newsflash: Reasonable people can disagree. You are not the only female atty on this board who has dealt with weird ass men.)

I honestly question whether some JB supporters here aren’t just either people hired by JB’s PR firm (which does these things) or people who have read the poisonous stuff that those people have posted somewhere and then believe it and post similar views themselves. I’m surprised by the sheer number of people on here saying that when Lively asked the (non-Baldoni) producer person to turn their back (after trying in unsuccessfully to reschedule their meeting for another time) and then found him looking at her anyway having completely failed to respect her request and turn his back was somehow Lively’s fault. I understand this isn’t the worst of what happened to her, but dude should have respected her boundaries and tbh art’s not on her. For multiple posters here to actually be blaming that on Lively feels like something weird is going on.

Funny, I’ve thought the same thing but thought it was more Blake Lively’s PR team commenting on this thread. I noticed the same thing on the Apple Martin thread - the PR folks have definitely found DCUM.

The sealioning stopped abrubtly though, after it was called out. Funny, that. I think a bunch of you people are not for real.

I’m the one you accused of maritime activities. Uh, no.

[Anonymous]

Like ohmigod everyone hates women!

https://www.vox.com/2014/10/13/6969341/blake-lively-preserve-slavery-antebellum

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I was somewhat supportive of BL at first until I saw his complaint.

I think there may have been misunderstandings on set, but I don’t think what he did was SH or retaliation at all. I think she started icing him, so he ran to protect himself with some pointed PR, but it took on a life of its own because of BLs own issues- mean girl rep, promoting the film as a rom com, co promoting her hair and alcohol brands, etc.

She thought she’d file a lawsuit riding on #metoo coattails to repair her brand and reposition herself as the victim, but didn’t count on him fighting back.

Poorly played.

Bingo.

+1,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like ohmigod everyone hates women!

https://www.vox.com/2014/10/13/6969341/blake-lively-preserve-slavery-antebellum

Shes always been dumb and out of touch.