FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

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Anonymous wrote:We are not at risk of moving to Skyview. But we are at risk of being moved out of Chantilly HS because it’s in 2/3 of the scenarios. This worries me as my oldest will be a senior and grandfathered in. If I pupil place my youngest at Chantilly, they would not be eligible for any VHSL activities for an entire year. This puts them at a great disadvantage. It would also be a huge burden to our family to have siblings at two different schools. What do we do??

How is it a burden to have kids at different schools for one year? They take the bus or walk to school. Regardless of the school. It is one year where you might have to go to some events at two schools. A pain in the butt, sure. A huge burden? Not really.

And your youngest can’t play sports or any other activity that VHSL runs, like theatre. Are you going to punish your youngest so you don’t have to split time between schools for a year? What joint activities are there? You can send one parent to one open house and another parents to the other. Hopefully there isn’t a lot of overlap between events.

Some people happen to be single parents. Wake up.

Read the information for yourself. There is only one theater activity that the child could not participate in. Most school clubs and activities are not VHSL sponsored. Sports and some other activities that involve competition fall under VHSL.

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out if you pupil place your child at the high school when the boundary changes take place (like you may if an older sibling already goes there and is grandfathered), they wouldn't be allowed to participate in any VHSL activities for one year. This is horrible for rising freshman who want to stay at the same school as an older sibling for the year 2027-2028 which is when the boundary changes take place.

There is a workaround process. There is a form, they just want to ensure transfers aren’t happening just to get kids on better teams or whatever. This will not impact typical athletes transferring from IB to AP schools for example.

New rules passed this year that prevent that. If you are attending a public school that is not your base school, you sit a year. Private school kids moving into public school for HS have to attend the base school associated with their address and not pupil place to a different school or they sit. Kids transfering for IB or AP will sit out a year. The exceptions are places like TJ.

So yes, a kid who is affected by the boundary change needs to attend the new school or sit a year. People are calling it the Hayfield rule.

Again, interested posters should read the FCPS materials linked to above. You are posting misinformation.

DP. I need a TLDR or layman explanation of the materials. This all sounds nuts.
I have a rising 10th grader who for now wants to stay at our base school. We are likely to be zoned to Skyview, which is fine, but would this mean that in order to stay at the base school for 27-28 we would have to “transfer” to the base school and then be ineligible for sports at the school attended and played sports at for the first 2 years of high school?
We need this cleared up.

I believe, and I could be wrong about this, that the initial phasing will be freshman in 27-28 and not moving Juniors and Seniors. Next year they will be starting with a full freshman and sophomore class, or pretty close to full. They are not going to be moving in kids for those classes because there will not be room. They will be adding the freshman class, the rising 9th graders.

This shouldn’t be like the boundary moves because there are not people moving out or spaces for older kids moving them in due to under enrollment. But I could be wrong.

There is no suggestion whatsoever that they are starting out pretty close to full. Last report was that they'd be at about 80% of the planned 1000-student capacity for 2026-27, and that was based on opening up Skyview to students across the entire county.

The last count that I heard, they are at 450 for the 9th grade class, that is 50 shy of what they were looking for. The 10th grade class is smaller and no one is surprised by that. If the 450 is accurate, they have 250 kids in the 10th grade. They are not going to move 11th graders in 27-28, not 10th graders because there isn’t space in that class, and add the freshman class.

To be accurate they wanted 500 freshman from five pyramids, not 450 from across the entire county. It would be good to know where the freshmen are coming from to know if they are relieving the schools that were most overcrowded.

They had 400 freshman from the 5 pyramids. Given that they were allowing kids to opt in, so there are families that probably never even looked at the emails to make a choice, and that there are no sports at Skyview, I am impressed that they got 400 kids from the 5 pyramids.

So you say, and perhaps it's even true. But the lack of transparency is a problem, and they did not achieve their initial goal, which was to find 1000 students from the five pyramids to launch Skyview.

Without knowing where kids are pupil placing from, it's hard to assess the effects of their opt-in model. The school that is most overcrowded may see limited relief. The school with the highest FARMS rate could lose the most high-performing kids. The way they are going about opening Skyview is anything but impressive or thoughtful. The only consideration appears to have been that, if Skyview couldn't offer sports this fall, they shouldn't force anyone living within the new boundaries to go there yet.

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out if you pupil place your child at the high school when the boundary changes take place (like you may if an older sibling already goes there and is grandfathered), they wouldn't be allowed to participate in any VHSL activities for one year. This is horrible for rising freshman who want to stay at the same school as an older sibling for the year 2027-2028 which is when the boundary changes take place.

There is a workaround process. There is a form, they just want to ensure transfers aren’t happening just to get kids on better teams or whatever. This will not impact typical athletes transferring from IB to AP schools for example.

New rules passed this year that prevent that. If you are attending a public school that is not your base school, you sit a year. Private school kids moving into public school for HS have to attend the base school associated with their address and not pupil place to a different school or they sit. Kids transfering for IB or AP will sit out a year. The exceptions are places like TJ.

So yes, a kid who is affected by the boundary change needs to attend the new school or sit a year. People are calling it the Hayfield rule.

Again, interested posters should read the FCPS materials linked to above. You are posting misinformation.

DP. I need a TLDR or layman explanation of the materials. This all sounds nuts.
I have a rising 10th grader who for now wants to stay at our base school. We are likely to be zoned to Skyview, which is fine, but would this mean that in order to stay at the base school for 27-28 we would have to “transfer” to the base school and then be ineligible for sports at the school attended and played sports at for the first 2 years of high school?
We need this cleared up.

I believe, and I could be wrong about this, that the initial phasing will be freshman in 27-28 and not moving Juniors and Seniors. Next year they will be starting with a full freshman and sophomore class, or pretty close to full. They are not going to be moving in kids for those classes because there will not be room. They will be adding the freshman class, the rising 9th graders.

This shouldn’t be like the boundary moves because there are not people moving out or spaces for older kids moving them in due to under enrollment. But I could be wrong.

There is no suggestion whatsoever that they are starting out pretty close to full. Last report was that they'd be at about 80% of the planned 1000-student capacity for 2026-27, and that was based on opening up Skyview to students across the entire county.

The last count that I heard, they are at 450 for the 9th grade class, that is 50 shy of what they were looking for. The 10th grade class is smaller and no one is surprised by that. If the 450 is accurate, they have 250 kids in the 10th grade. They are not going to move 11th graders in 27-28, not 10th graders because there isn’t space in that class, and add the freshman class.

To be accurate they wanted 500 freshman from five pyramids, not 450 from across the entire county. It would be good to know where the freshmen are coming from to know if they are relieving the schools that were most overcrowded.

They had 400 freshman from the 5 pyramids. Given that they were allowing kids to opt in, so there are families that probably never even looked at the emails to make a choice, and that there are no sports at Skyview, I am impressed that they got 400 kids from the 5 pyramids.

So you say, and perhaps it's even true. But the lack of transparency is a problem, and they did not achieve their initial goal, which was to find 1000 students from the five pyramids to launch Skyview.

Without knowing where kids are pupil placing from, it's hard to assess the effects of their opt-in model. The school that is most overcrowded may see limited relief. The school with the highest FARMS rate could lose the most high-performing kids. The way they are going about opening Skyview is anything but impressive or thoughtful. The only consideration appears to have been that, if Skyview couldn't offer sports this fall, they shouldn't force anyone living within the new boundaries to go there yet.

It doesn’t matter, they are setting boundaries for every year after next year. That is the point of this process.

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Reid should be fired. She has made a complete mess of this.

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out if you pupil place your child at the high school when the boundary changes take place (like you may if an older sibling already goes there and is grandfathered), they wouldn't be allowed to participate in any VHSL activities for one year. This is horrible for rising freshman who want to stay at the same school as an older sibling for the year 2027-2028 which is when the boundary changes take place.

There is a workaround process. There is a form, they just want to ensure transfers aren’t happening just to get kids on better teams or whatever. This will not impact typical athletes transferring from IB to AP schools for example.

New rules passed this year that prevent that. If you are attending a public school that is not your base school, you sit a year. Private school kids moving into public school for HS have to attend the base school associated with their address and not pupil place to a different school or they sit. Kids transfering for IB or AP will sit out a year. The exceptions are places like TJ.

So yes, a kid who is affected by the boundary change needs to attend the new school or sit a year. People are calling it the Hayfield rule.

Again, interested posters should read the FCPS materials linked to above. You are posting misinformation.

DP. I need a TLDR or layman explanation of the materials. This all sounds nuts.
I have a rising 10th grader who for now wants to stay at our base school. We are likely to be zoned to Skyview, which is fine, but would this mean that in order to stay at the base school for 27-28 we would have to “transfer” to the base school and then be ineligible for sports at the school attended and played sports at for the first 2 years of high school?
We need this cleared up.

I believe, and I could be wrong about this, that the initial phasing will be freshman in 27-28 and not moving Juniors and Seniors. Next year they will be starting with a full freshman and sophomore class, or pretty close to full. They are not going to be moving in kids for those classes because there will not be room. They will be adding the freshman class, the rising 9th graders.

This shouldn’t be like the boundary moves because there are not people moving out or spaces for older kids moving them in due to under enrollment. But I could be wrong.

There is no suggestion whatsoever that they are starting out pretty close to full. Last report was that they'd be at about 80% of the planned 1000-student capacity for 2026-27, and that was based on opening up Skyview to students across the entire county.

The last count that I heard, they are at 450 for the 9th grade class, that is 50 shy of what they were looking for. The 10th grade class is smaller and no one is surprised by that. If the 450 is accurate, they have 250 kids in the 10th grade. They are not going to move 11th graders in 27-28, not 10th graders because there isn’t space in that class, and add the freshman class.

To be accurate they wanted 500 freshman from five pyramids, not 450 from across the entire county. It would be good to know where the freshmen are coming from to know if they are relieving the schools that were most overcrowded.

They had 400 freshman from the 5 pyramids. Given that they were allowing kids to opt in, so there are families that probably never even looked at the emails to make a choice, and that there are no sports at Skyview, I am impressed that they got 400 kids from the 5 pyramids.

So you say, and perhaps it's even true. But the lack of transparency is a problem, and they did not achieve their initial goal, which was to find 1000 students from the five pyramids to launch Skyview.

Without knowing where kids are pupil placing from, it's hard to assess the effects of their opt-in model. The school that is most overcrowded may see limited relief. The school with the highest FARMS rate could lose the most high-performing kids. The way they are going about opening Skyview is anything but impressive or thoughtful. The only consideration appears to have been that, if Skyview couldn't offer sports this fall, they shouldn't force anyone living within the new boundaries to go there yet.

It doesn’t matter, they are setting boundaries for every year after next year. That is the point of this process.

Had the boundaries been set, they would have had more opt ins--except maybe from a neighborhood that may or may not be within boundary.

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Anonymous wrote:Highland Oaks has been proposed to move from Chantilly to Oakton. Does anyone think that makes sense? They are also in walking distance of Chantilly.

I live in Highland Oaks and I’d prefer to stick with the rest of the ES community, whether it’s feeding into Chantilly or Oakton. I don’t care, they’re both great schools. It’s sad that 90% of Navy goes to Oakton except for this little sliver of communities off of RT 50.

Tell me you don’t have a high schooler without telling me you don’t have a high schooler. The commute to Oakton is brutal and would be very difficult once your kid has after school activities/evening events. Navy Chantilly Moms are very happy with Chantilly and their short commute.

Meh. The rest of the Navy community doesn’t seem to mind it. In fact they’re sending out school-wide communications to unite messaging to stick with Oakton. So this Navy Chantilly parent is sticking with my original position. I would rather stay with the community, whichever direction they put us.

The emails from Navy are basically asking people to comment on the boundary tool and asking to preserve the current boundaries. I don't think it's about everyone wanting Oakton so much as not splitting up the Navy community, which all three scenarios do just in different ways. The proposal to move some Navy kids to Crossfield seems off the table for now. But there's still the weird Navy to Rocky Run to Oakton proposal. And I guess some are upset about being moved from Oakton to Chantilly, though I think that's not such a bad change especially since some Navy kids already go there. They should just unify around the Rocky Run scenario not making any sense.

The only reason they moved some of Navy to Rocky Run is because Crossfield now has taken over Franklin in all 3 scenarios. And the only reason Crossfield wants Franklin is so they can avoid Skyview and remain at a Oakton permanently, even though they are literally the furthest from Oakton and one of the closest to Skyview. They should be going to Skyview period.

Not really. Part of the Navy goes to Chantilly, and Rocky Run is the feeder middle school for Chantilly.

Plus, Oak Hill will leave Franklin and Franklin need students as a result.

Rocky Run is a better middle school than Franklin.

Yes really. Franklin MS is currently a feeder to only Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. It’s a great way for Navy Chantilly kids to meet other Chantilly HS kids. Lees Corner ES goes to Franklin MS and feeds into Chantilly HS. If Navy Chantilly kids get put at Rocky Run MS they lose out on meeting the Lees Corner kids as well as other kids going to Chantilly HS. Rocky Run is an AAP center so splits to more high schools than just Oakton and Chantilly.

I think you're confused. The vast majority of Rocky Run goes to Chantilly. Like a larger percentage of kids from Rocky Run go to Chantilly than from Franklin.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the rationale behind moving that part of Chantilly to Oakton? I don't get it.

Are they trying to move ALL of Navy to Oakton? Or is it just part of Navy and part still stays at Chantilly?

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out if you pupil place your child at the high school when the boundary changes take place (like you may if an older sibling already goes there and is grandfathered), they wouldn't be allowed to participate in any VHSL activities for one year. This is horrible for rising freshman who want to stay at the same school as an older sibling for the year 2027-2028 which is when the boundary changes take place.

There is a workaround process. There is a form, they just want to ensure transfers aren’t happening just to get kids on better teams or whatever. This will not impact typical athletes transferring from IB to AP schools for example.

New rules passed this year that prevent that. If you are attending a public school that is not your base school, you sit a year. Private school kids moving into public school for HS have to attend the base school associated with their address and not pupil place to a different school or they sit. Kids transfering for IB or AP will sit out a year. The exceptions are places like TJ.

So yes, a kid who is affected by the boundary change needs to attend the new school or sit a year. People are calling it the Hayfield rule.

Again, interested posters should read the FCPS materials linked to above. You are posting misinformation.

DP. I need a TLDR or layman explanation of the materials. This all sounds nuts.
I have a rising 10th grader who for now wants to stay at our base school. We are likely to be zoned to Skyview, which is fine, but would this mean that in order to stay at the base school for 27-28 we would have to “transfer” to the base school and then be ineligible for sports at the school attended and played sports at for the first 2 years of high school?
We need this cleared up.

I believe, and I could be wrong about this, that the initial phasing will be freshman in 27-28 and not moving Juniors and Seniors. Next year they will be starting with a full freshman and sophomore class, or pretty close to full. They are not going to be moving in kids for those classes because there will not be room. They will be adding the freshman class, the rising 9th graders.

This shouldn’t be like the boundary moves because there are not people moving out or spaces for older kids moving them in due to under enrollment. But I could be wrong.

There is no suggestion whatsoever that they are starting out pretty close to full. Last report was that they'd be at about 80% of the planned 1000-student capacity for 2026-27, and that was based on opening up Skyview to students across the entire county.

The last count that I heard, they are at 450 for the 9th grade class, that is 50 shy of what they were looking for. The 10th grade class is smaller and no one is surprised by that. If the 450 is accurate, they have 250 kids in the 10th grade. They are not going to move 11th graders in 27-28, not 10th graders because there isn’t space in that class, and add the freshman class.

To be accurate they wanted 500 freshman from five pyramids, not 450 from across the entire county. It would be good to know where the freshmen are coming from to know if they are relieving the schools that were most overcrowded.

They had 400 freshman from the 5 pyramids. Given that they were allowing kids to opt in, so there are families that probably never even looked at the emails to make a choice, and that there are no sports at Skyview, I am impressed that they got 400 kids from the 5 pyramids.

So you say, and perhaps it's even true. But the lack of transparency is a problem, and they did not achieve their initial goal, which was to find 1000 students from the five pyramids to launch Skyview.

Without knowing where kids are pupil placing from, it's hard to assess the effects of their opt-in model. The school that is most overcrowded may see limited relief. The school with the highest FARMS rate could lose the most high-performing kids. The way they are going about opening Skyview is anything but impressive or thoughtful. The only consideration appears to have been that, if Skyview couldn't offer sports this fall, they shouldn't force anyone living within the new boundaries to go there yet.

It doesn’t matter, they are setting boundaries for every year after next year. That is the point of this process.

You're missing the point, which is that without boundaries and with this county-wide opt-in approach it will be hard to tell for some time whether Skyview's opening actually does anything that furthers FCPS's objectives in buying the school.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the rationale behind moving that part of Chantilly to Oakton? I don't get it.

Are they trying to move ALL of Navy to Oakton? Or is it just part of Navy and part still stays at Chantilly?

Yes, but only in scenario 1. In Scenario 3, they actually move all of Navy to Chantilly HS. And in Scenario 2, they leave the high schools alone but move some of Navy to Rocky Run MS.

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Anonymous wrote:Highland Oaks has been proposed to move from Chantilly to Oakton. Does anyone think that makes sense? They are also in walking distance of Chantilly.

I live in Highland Oaks and I’d prefer to stick with the rest of the ES community, whether it’s feeding into Chantilly or Oakton. I don’t care, they’re both great schools. It’s sad that 90% of Navy goes to Oakton except for this little sliver of communities off of RT 50.

Tell me you don’t have a high schooler without telling me you don’t have a high schooler. The commute to Oakton is brutal and would be very difficult once your kid has after school activities/evening events. Navy Chantilly Moms are very happy with Chantilly and their short commute.

Meh. The rest of the Navy community doesn’t seem to mind it. In fact they’re sending out school-wide communications to unite messaging to stick with Oakton. So this Navy Chantilly parent is sticking with my original position. I would rather stay with the community, whichever direction they put us.

The emails from Navy are basically asking people to comment on the boundary tool and asking to preserve the current boundaries. I don't think it's about everyone wanting Oakton so much as not splitting up the Navy community, which all three scenarios do just in different ways. The proposal to move some Navy kids to Crossfield seems off the table for now. But there's still the weird Navy to Rocky Run to Oakton proposal. And I guess some are upset about being moved from Oakton to Chantilly, though I think that's not such a bad change especially since some Navy kids already go there. They should just unify around the Rocky Run scenario not making any sense.

The only reason they moved some of Navy to Rocky Run is because Crossfield now has taken over Franklin in all 3 scenarios. And the only reason Crossfield wants Franklin is so they can avoid Skyview and remain at a Oakton permanently, even though they are literally the furthest from Oakton and one of the closest to Skyview. They should be going to Skyview period.

Not really. Part of the Navy goes to Chantilly, and Rocky Run is the feeder middle school for Chantilly.

Plus, Oak Hill will leave Franklin and Franklin need students as a result.

Rocky Run is a better middle school than Franklin.

Yes really. Franklin MS is currently a feeder to only Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. It’s a great way for Navy Chantilly kids to meet other Chantilly HS kids. Lees Corner ES goes to Franklin MS and feeds into Chantilly HS. If Navy Chantilly kids get put at Rocky Run MS they lose out on meeting the Lees Corner kids as well as other kids going to Chantilly HS. Rocky Run is an AAP center so splits to more high schools than just Oakton and Chantilly.

I think you're confused. The vast majority of Rocky Run goes to Chantilly. Like a larger percentage of kids from Rocky Run go to Chantilly than from Franklin.

Is that right? I didn’t know that. I was thinking like it might be like Carson which splits to many different high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Highland Oaks has been proposed to move from Chantilly to Oakton. Does anyone think that makes sense? They are also in walking distance of Chantilly.

I live in Highland Oaks and I’d prefer to stick with the rest of the ES community, whether it’s feeding into Chantilly or Oakton. I don’t care, they’re both great schools. It’s sad that 90% of Navy goes to Oakton except for this little sliver of communities off of RT 50.

Tell me you don’t have a high schooler without telling me you don’t have a high schooler. The commute to Oakton is brutal and would be very difficult once your kid has after school activities/evening events. Navy Chantilly Moms are very happy with Chantilly and their short commute.

Meh. The rest of the Navy community doesn’t seem to mind it. In fact they’re sending out school-wide communications to unite messaging to stick with Oakton. So this Navy Chantilly parent is sticking with my original position. I would rather stay with the community, whichever direction they put us.

The emails from Navy are basically asking people to comment on the boundary tool and asking to preserve the current boundaries. I don't think it's about everyone wanting Oakton so much as not splitting up the Navy community, which all three scenarios do just in different ways. The proposal to move some Navy kids to Crossfield seems off the table for now. But there's still the weird Navy to Rocky Run to Oakton proposal. And I guess some are upset about being moved from Oakton to Chantilly, though I think that's not such a bad change especially since some Navy kids already go there. They should just unify around the Rocky Run scenario not making any sense.

The only reason they moved some of Navy to Rocky Run is because Crossfield now has taken over Franklin in all 3 scenarios. And the only reason Crossfield wants Franklin is so they can avoid Skyview and remain at a Oakton permanently, even though they are literally the furthest from Oakton and one of the closest to Skyview. They should be going to Skyview period.

Not really. Part of the Navy goes to Chantilly, and Rocky Run is the feeder middle school for Chantilly.

Plus, Oak Hill will leave Franklin and Franklin need students as a result.

Rocky Run is a better middle school than Franklin.

Yes really. Franklin MS is currently a feeder to only Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. It’s a great way for Navy Chantilly kids to meet other Chantilly HS kids. Lees Corner ES goes to Franklin MS and feeds into Chantilly HS. If Navy Chantilly kids get put at Rocky Run MS they lose out on meeting the Lees Corner kids as well as other kids going to Chantilly HS. Rocky Run is an AAP center so splits to more high schools than just Oakton and Chantilly.

I think you're confused. The vast majority of Rocky Run goes to Chantilly. Like a larger percentage of kids from Rocky Run go to Chantilly than from Franklin.

Is that right? I didn’t know that. I was thinking like it might be like Carson which splits to many different high schools.

I think Rocky Run sends some to Centreville and Westfield (AAP?)
Franklin boundary includes AAP kids at Carson.

So, currently, Franklin sends Lee's Corner, Oak Hill, and some Navy to Chantilly.
I'm thinking it is a pretty even split with the AAP kids at Rocky Run that go to other schools.

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Its not. A handful of kids go to Westfield from AAP at RR and maybe 60 or so to Centreville from AAP. The rest are all Rocky Run.

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Anonymous wrote:Its not. A handful of kids go to Westfield from AAP at RR and maybe 60 or so to Centreville from AAP. The rest are all Rocky Run.

But Frankin has a lot of kids at Carson for AAP that go to Chantilly. Lees Corner and Oak Hill.

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out if you pupil place your child at the high school when the boundary changes take place (like you may if an older sibling already goes there and is grandfathered), they wouldn't be allowed to participate in any VHSL activities for one year. This is horrible for rising freshman who want to stay at the same school as an older sibling for the year 2027-2028 which is when the boundary changes take place.

There is a workaround process. There is a form, they just want to ensure transfers aren’t happening just to get kids on better teams or whatever. This will not impact typical athletes transferring from IB to AP schools for example.

New rules passed this year that prevent that. If you are attending a public school that is not your base school, you sit a year. Private school kids moving into public school for HS have to attend the base school associated with their address and not pupil place to a different school or they sit. Kids transfering for IB or AP will sit out a year. The exceptions are places like TJ.

So yes, a kid who is affected by the boundary change needs to attend the new school or sit a year. People are calling it the Hayfield rule.

Again, interested posters should read the FCPS materials linked to above. You are posting misinformation.

DP. I need a TLDR or layman explanation of the materials. This all sounds nuts.
I have a rising 10th grader who for now wants to stay at our base school. We are likely to be zoned to Skyview, which is fine, but would this mean that in order to stay at the base school for 27-28 we would have to “transfer” to the base school and then be ineligible for sports at the school attended and played sports at for the first 2 years of high school?
We need this cleared up.

I believe, and I could be wrong about this, that the initial phasing will be freshman in 27-28 and not moving Juniors and Seniors. Next year they will be starting with a full freshman and sophomore class, or pretty close to full. They are not going to be moving in kids for those classes because there will not be room. They will be adding the freshman class, the rising 9th graders.

This shouldn’t be like the boundary moves because there are not people moving out or spaces for older kids moving them in due to under enrollment. But I could be wrong.

There is no suggestion whatsoever that they are starting out pretty close to full. Last report was that they'd be at about 80% of the planned 1000-student capacity for 2026-27, and that was based on opening up Skyview to students across the entire county.

The last count that I heard, they are at 450 for the 9th grade class, that is 50 shy of what they were looking for. The 10th grade class is smaller and no one is surprised by that. If the 450 is accurate, they have 250 kids in the 10th grade. They are not going to move 11th graders in 27-28, not 10th graders because there isn’t space in that class, and add the freshman class.

To be accurate they wanted 500 freshman from five pyramids, not 450 from across the entire county. It would be good to know where the freshmen are coming from to know if they are relieving the schools that were most overcrowded.

They had 400 freshman from the 5 pyramids. Given that they were allowing kids to opt in, so there are families that probably never even looked at the emails to make a choice, and that there are no sports at Skyview, I am impressed that they got 400 kids from the 5 pyramids.

So you say, and perhaps it's even true. But the lack of transparency is a problem, and they did not achieve their initial goal, which was to find 1000 students from the five pyramids to launch Skyview.

Without knowing where kids are pupil placing from, it's hard to assess the effects of their opt-in model. The school that is most overcrowded may see limited relief. The school with the highest FARMS rate could lose the most high-performing kids. The way they are going about opening Skyview is anything but impressive or thoughtful. The only consideration appears to have been that, if Skyview couldn't offer sports this fall, they shouldn't force anyone living within the new boundaries to go there yet.

It doesn’t matter, they are setting boundaries for every year after next year. That is the point of this process.

You're missing the point, which is that without boundaries and with this county-wide opt-in approach it will be hard to tell for some time whether Skyview's opening actually does anything that furthers FCPS's objectives in buying the school.

You're ignoring the fact that the school couldn't be ready to open as a full high school this year. It is less desirable to many students due to lack of sports and all the extra curriculars just getting started, no seniors and juniors with experience to lead the way. By allowing anyone to opt in for this first year at least they are getting some use out of the school, and doing the necessary start up tasks so that it can take over as a full school in the future. "Furthering the objectives" will be done at that point by the outcome of which boundaries they assign to the school. The nearby schools will get overcrowding relief. The assigned zone will have a neighborhood school. That is the objective.

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Anonymous wrote:Highland Oaks has been proposed to move from Chantilly to Oakton. Does anyone think that makes sense? They are also in walking distance of Chantilly.

I live in Highland Oaks and I’d prefer to stick with the rest of the ES community, whether it’s feeding into Chantilly or Oakton. I don’t care, they’re both great schools. It’s sad that 90% of Navy goes to Oakton except for this little sliver of communities off of RT 50.

Tell me you don’t have a high schooler without telling me you don’t have a high schooler. The commute to Oakton is brutal and would be very difficult once your kid has after school activities/evening events. Navy Chantilly Moms are very happy with Chantilly and their short commute.

Meh. The rest of the Navy community doesn’t seem to mind it. In fact they’re sending out school-wide communications to unite messaging to stick with Oakton. So this Navy Chantilly parent is sticking with my original position. I would rather stay with the community, whichever direction they put us.

The emails from Navy are basically asking people to comment on the boundary tool and asking to preserve the current boundaries. I don't think it's about everyone wanting Oakton so much as not splitting up the Navy community, which all three scenarios do just in different ways. The proposal to move some Navy kids to Crossfield seems off the table for now. But there's still the weird Navy to Rocky Run to Oakton proposal. And I guess some are upset about being moved from Oakton to Chantilly, though I think that's not such a bad change especially since some Navy kids already go there. They should just unify around the Rocky Run scenario not making any sense.

The only reason they moved some of Navy to Rocky Run is because Crossfield now has taken over Franklin in all 3 scenarios. And the only reason Crossfield wants Franklin is so they can avoid Skyview and remain at a Oakton permanently, even though they are literally the furthest from Oakton and one of the closest to Skyview. They should be going to Skyview period.

Not really. Part of the Navy goes to Chantilly, and Rocky Run is the feeder middle school for Chantilly.

Plus, Oak Hill will leave Franklin and Franklin need students as a result.

Rocky Run is a better middle school than Franklin.

Yes really. Franklin MS is currently a feeder to only Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. It’s a great way for Navy Chantilly kids to meet other Chantilly HS kids. Lees Corner ES goes to Franklin MS and feeds into Chantilly HS. If Navy Chantilly kids get put at Rocky Run MS they lose out on meeting the Lees Corner kids as well as other kids going to Chantilly HS. Rocky Run is an AAP center so splits to more high schools than just Oakton and Chantilly.

I think you're confused. The vast majority of Rocky Run goes to Chantilly. Like a larger percentage of kids from Rocky Run go to Chantilly than from Franklin.

Is that right? I didn’t know that. I was thinking like it might be like Carson which splits to many different high schools.

I think Rocky Run sends some to Centreville and Westfield (AAP?)
Franklin boundary includes AAP kids at Carson.

So, currently, Franklin sends Lee's Corner, Oak Hill, and some Navy to Chantilly.
I'm thinking it is a pretty even split with the AAP kids at Rocky Run that go to other schools.

This is moot in a few years with the elimination of MS AAP centers.