Why racial segregation is unacceptable but socioeconomic segregation is ok in private schools

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Anonymous wrote:I love dcum posts. It’s an easy way to check how racist people are in the dc area.

And hypocritical

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Anonymous wrote:The DC private schools are not as much of a wealth/privilege bubble as some people here say. It is all relative. For a lot of us this is just normal life in DC and we see schools elsewhere as privileged.

It is all relative, but my kids have been in class and friends with kids in their public schools that have been living in shelters or didn’t have food to eat when they got home from school (wonderful, sweet kids btw). You don’t see that kind of poverty at DC privates - and arguably these are the kids that need the most help if we are going to truly care about equity and diversity.

We had a super smart kid from our church who was offered a full scholarship and he turned it down. I heard he turned it down to work with his family instead and didn’t finish high school.

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Anonymous wrote:I love dcum posts. It’s an easy way to check how racist people are in the dc area.

It's racist to want a good education for your kids? Guess that crabs in a barrel thing isn't working out the way you hoped.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling. So earning less than 250k a year and not being able to pay 60k in this housing market means you have problems?

If you are asking for charity, i.e. financial aid, then yes.

So you think that people who receive financial aid and scholarships in college are asking for charity? If you do, you are obtuse and insolent. These schools cost more in tuition than many colleges.

Financial aid, yes that’s a literal that means charity. Scholarships, no that’s a payment for excellence.

You are an idiot. “Scholarships” in college work just like financial aid in private school. It’s easier for people who can pay “full sticker price” to get in. But many students, at some schools most students, get some scholarship funding to lessen the cost. The average price paid at many schools is far below sticker.

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These are trolls posting. Designed to make racism and classism seem more popular than it is.

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Anonymous wrote:These are trolls posting. Designed to make racism and classism seem more popular than it is.

Not really. Parents from private school try to justify that classism is actually fine or desirable in private schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I love dcum posts. It’s an easy way to check how racist people are in the dc area.

It's racist to want a good education for your kids? Guess that crabs in a barrel thing isn't working out the way you hoped.

Not really. What is odd is the combination of pretending not to be racist and at the same time to openly show disdain for kids in lower income families.

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This thread is asinine. I didn’t bother reading the responses, but OP is an imbecile. Sorry, but they are. Private means that it costs money, and if you can’t afford it then you will likely have to make other choices. That is not remotely the same as racism, even though income does tend to fall along racial lines. Some schools make it part of their mission to promote more diversity by offering aid money, but it is far from a requirement.

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Anonymous wrote:OP were you born yesterday? Public schools are way more segregated than private on this axis. Private schools are paying millions per year for socioeconomic diversity through financial aid. Meanwhile home prices and NIMBY behavior are keeping good public schools behind locked gates for most.

You hit the nail on the head.

Sure. Private schools are more inclusive than public schools.

it's not the schools it's the people. Wherever you go, there the people are. People exclude others not like them.

Sure. That makes it acceptable.

It's human nature. For all the inclusion talk there are so many kids left on the sidelines. Not cool enough, too weird, annoying, etc. Why focus on just SES or race? Exclusion happens in every single classroom.

Because those things are resulted from something the kid nor the kid’s family can control and has been happening to the same race of people for hundreds of years on US soil.

Discrimination has been going on since humanity lumbered from the primordial ooze. All races, every corner of earth, all since day one.

Well yes, you are 100% correct and that is true.

But what hasn’t been going on since day 1 are people simultaneously pursuing discrimination for themselves and their own family while at the exact same time preaching anti-discrimination and condemning those who engage in it in order to elevate their own status by presenting themselves as virtuous and others as bigoted while the both engage in the same behaviors.

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This is a conservative troll gaslighting us, hero she would prefer classism AND racism. They are essentially trying to score points on schools for promoting inclusivity. “Woke” police.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling. So earning less than 250k a year and not being able to pay 60k in this housing market means you have problems?

If you are asking for charity, i.e. financial aid, then yes.

So you think that people who receive financial aid and scholarships in college are asking for charity? If you do, you are obtuse and insolent. These schools cost more in tuition than many colleges.

Financial aid, yes that’s a literal that means charity. Scholarships, no that’s a payment for excellence.

You are an idiot. “Scholarships” in college work just like financial aid in private school. It’s easier for people who can pay “full sticker price” to get in. But many students, at some schools most students, get some scholarship funding to lessen the cost. The average price paid at many schools is far below sticker.

You are an idiot. Scholarship and financial aid are NOT the same thing. Not all scholarships are needs based. Scholarships are based on attaining high GPAs or having an unusual talent in sporting or arts valued by an institution. If you ever got one you would know that. All financial aid is needs based. Dummy.

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Private school's care about aesthetics. They want a class that looks "right." This approach means that private schools will bring in students of color (some, not too many), only to take their picture for the brochure ("Look, we're diverse!"), and relieve the white community of concerns that they may be called racist. At the end of the day, schools don't really care about racial diversity because they know darned well the claim that a Black student will be a better calculus just because she is sitting next to a White student (and vice versa) is pure fiction. What the schools DO care about is maintaining power and status. In short, racial diversity enables socioeconomic segregation. Those factors are not in tension; rather, they complement each other.

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Would agree with 23:31 above. They want a school that looks right. The financial aid kids are really there specifically to be friends with the full pay kids. If there are rich minorities who want their kids around more kids of their minority group, for sure the school is going to recruit more kids of whatever groups those are. Particularly so if one of those minority full pay parents is a big pocket donor.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling. So earning less than 250k a year and not being able to pay 60k in this housing market means you have problems?

If you are asking for charity, i.e. financial aid, then yes.

So you think that people who receive financial aid and scholarships in college are asking for charity? If you do, you are obtuse and insolent. These schools cost more in tuition than many colleges.

Financial aid, yes that’s a literal that means charity. Scholarships, no that’s a payment for excellence.

You are an idiot. “Scholarships” in college work just like financial aid in private school. It’s easier for people who can pay “full sticker price” to get in. But many students, at some schools most students, get some scholarship funding to lessen the cost. The average price paid at many schools is far below sticker.

You are an idiot. Scholarship and financial aid are NOT the same thing. Not all scholarships are needs based. Scholarships are based on attaining high GPAs or having an unusual talent in sporting or arts valued by an institution. If you ever got one you would know that. All financial aid is needs based. Dummy.

All financial aid is not need based fool. Plenty of people get more or less than “need” based on how much the school wants you. Just like college.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop trolling. So earning less than 250k a year and not being able to pay 60k in this housing market means you have problems?

If you are asking for charity, i.e. financial aid, then yes.

So you think that people who receive financial aid and scholarships in college are asking for charity? If you do, you are obtuse and insolent. These schools cost more in tuition than many colleges.

Financial aid, yes that’s a literal that means charity. Scholarships, no that’s a payment for excellence.

You are an idiot. “Scholarships” in college work just like financial aid in private school. It’s easier for people who can pay “full sticker price” to get in. But many students, at some schools most students, get some scholarship funding to lessen the cost. The average price paid at many schools is far below sticker.

You are an idiot. Scholarship and financial aid are NOT the same thing. Not all scholarships are needs based. Scholarships are based on attaining high GPAs or having an unusual talent in sporting or arts valued by an institution. If you ever got one you would know that. All financial aid is needs based. Dummy.

This is pretty funny, as I actually got a full scholarship to several schools in my lifetime. Literally went to Harvard on a full tuition scholarship.